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XabbaRus
01-03-08, 06:39 AM
OK dumb question time again.

My nVidia 8500 GT arrived today. Now I have an ATi X300 sitting in the PCI-E slot right now with all the ATi drivers etc.

So do I just swap out the card then delete ATi drivers on restart and install the nVidia ones. The manual is unclear on this one.

Prof
01-03-08, 07:19 AM
I always delete the old drivers before removing the old card. That way, when I boot up the PC after installing the new card, I can install the new drivers straight away rather than having to delete the old drivers first.

Skybird
01-03-08, 07:47 AM
I always delete the old drivers before removing the old card.
Exactly. Also manually search for remains from the deistalled driver (files, folders, registry entries), use a registry cleaner after having rebooted.
Then set in the new board, and then install the new driver.

antikristuseke
01-03-08, 08:24 AM
Uninstall drivers -> restart -> tirn pc off and remove card then install new card -> boot up and install drivers -> reboot and good to go.

AVGWarhawk
01-03-08, 09:45 AM
Uninstall drivers -> restart -> tirn pc off and remove card then install new card -> boot up and install drivers -> reboot and good to go.

This how it worked for me as well.

XabbaRus
01-03-08, 12:14 PM
Cheers

XabbaRus
01-03-08, 02:19 PM
OK new card installed and running well so far.

jlstiger, I removed my CPu fan and cleaned all the dust off the heat sink. Using Sandra to check CPU temp it was way down back to about 38 degrees C.

Oh MBM 5 doesn't support my board I have to frig it to work, so are there any other low overhead monitoring progs that can tell me CPU temp etc?

What are the best nVidia drivers to have at the moment?

AVGWarhawk
01-03-08, 02:28 PM
I just updated the drivers for Nvidia at their site. SH4 plays nicely!

XabbaRus
01-03-08, 03:05 PM
I ran IL-2 1946 and set graphics at perfect, it played bu i lost all my scenery, i could fly and fight but it was like being in space, set back to normal and everything came back.

As for temps Sandra is coming back with board temp 27 C/CPU 39 C/PSU 27 C

AVGWarhawk
01-03-08, 03:14 PM
IL2 plays in open GL I think? Perhaps that is the issue?

XabbaRus
01-03-08, 03:50 PM
I chose OpenGL I'll update drivers and have a fiddle.

SUBMAN1
01-03-08, 04:15 PM
You do not need to remove the drivers first, but it is probably an OK idea. Unlike what is written above, if Windows does not detect the device on boot-up, it will not load the drivers for it. The same holds true for a USB device for example, or a CD-ROM device, or anything. If windows sees the device exists, it looks for the appropriate driver to load.

Anyway, unloading the drivers before installing your new toy is not going to hurt anything, so its not a bad thing. About the best you will get from it though is the CCC control panel won't start on boot-up.

Now for the fun part! If you have dual PCI-E slots - leave both cards in and have multi monitor fun! I used to have two different video cards in my system in the past to fullfill my need for multiple monitors. In the not to distant past, the only way to have more than one monitor was to have more than one video card in the system.

-S

Prof
01-03-08, 05:00 PM
Oh MBM 5 doesn't support my board I have to frig it to work, so are there any other low overhead monitoring progs that can tell me CPU temp etc?I use SpeedFan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php).

SUBMAN1
01-03-08, 11:34 PM
Oh MBM 5 doesn't support my board I have to frig it to work, so are there any other low overhead monitoring progs that can tell me CPU temp etc?I use SpeedFan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php).I concur. Works good. Has the potential to crash some systems however, but no permanent damage - just reboot and all will be well if this happens. Seen Speedfan take down probalby one in 20 systems. And the 1 in 20 systems it did take down it didn't blue screen it all the time, only maybe 1 in 10 start ups of the program.

-S

XabbaRus
01-04-08, 02:23 PM
Yep all fine.
SUBMAN you seem to know a lot about PSUs, my voltages are stable though my 12 volt line is reading a constant 11.88 volts when just sitting still, that's a 1% drop. Drops a little when playing IL-2 but everything else seems normal, fans run up and temps stay within norms. Tell me I am worrying about nothing. I know with PSUs you pay what you get for but £50 is a lot for me else I would have paid more. Maybe I will keep an eye and save up for one of those Antec things or whatever was in your links. End of the month maybe.

SUBMAN1
01-04-08, 02:34 PM
1% shouldn't matter. If it were more though, you may be stressing things, and you may get lockups / freezes and general weird stuff happening. If that is not happening, then all is well! :D

-S

XabbaRus
01-04-08, 02:50 PM
Cool.

XabbaRus
01-04-08, 07:00 PM
SpeedFan set, any help? I am trying to get it to control my fans which my D915GAG board should allow me to do.

SUBMAN1
01-05-08, 05:20 PM
SpeedFan set, any help? I am trying to get it to control my fans which my D915GAG board should allow me to do.Better plan - don't use it and buy some low RPM fans instead. A damn good place to find silent components is, www,silentpcreview.com

Here is the fan page:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article63-page2.html

In there you will find audio files taken from sound room type conditions so you know exactly if a particular fan is going to annoy you or not. Check it out.

An example is this - http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/sounds/fans/nexus92-1ft.mp3 - That is my CPU fan taken from a distance of 30 CM as recorded in a near silent sound room. How I built my system is I found the largest pure copper heat sink (nearly 900 gr I believe - I know, it is way way way outside of spec for a heat sink weight, but its damn efficient) I could find and used a low RPM low CFM fan on it for cooling. The large copper heat sink pulls the heat away and all it needs is low CFM to keep itself cool.

-S

sonar732
01-05-08, 06:19 PM
How about a link to that copper heat sink? ;)

SUBMAN1
01-05-08, 06:30 PM
How about a link to that copper heat sink? ;)They don't make it anymore - metal prices have made it too expensive.

This is what it looks like though:

http://www.overclockers.co.nz/product/cooler/tr/XP-90C-B.jpg

XabbaRus
01-05-08, 06:32 PM
dude have you seen the price of copper lately?

XabbaRus
01-05-08, 06:32 PM
How much for it? I just want it cos it looks cool, not that I have a heat problem.

SUBMAN1
01-05-08, 08:06 PM
Dunno. ALmost 2 years ago, it was close to $60 the way it sits there. Then you have to buy a fan, etc.

And yeah - copper is out of site for prices now. in 1998 it used to be about 60 cents an ounce. Now it is pushing $4.00 an ounce!!! That is 66% of the way to what silver was priced at 10 years ago!

-S