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STEED
01-02-08, 08:51 AM
Householders face another big council tax rise and service cuts


Average council tax bills are expected to rise by about 4.5 per cent to £1,380 in April, making a total increase of more than 100 per cent since Labour took office, according to the local government chief.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3118850.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3118850.ece)



What is the point paying more for less? People of Great Britain you must take on these swine and only pay a certain amount and withhold the rest why? If you sit there and do nothing they will walk all over you year in year out, I am fighting my corner are you?

HunterICX
01-02-08, 09:05 AM
why dont you fellas start a New French revolution :D

HunterICX

STEED
01-02-08, 09:13 AM
why dont you fellas start a New French revolution :D

HunterICX

Sounds good to me. ;) :/\\chop

Kapitan_Phillips
01-02-08, 09:28 AM
why dont you fellas start a New French revolution :D

HunterICX

Because if we do anything with the word "French" in it, we'll need everyone elses help!


Steed, me and my entire family are in your corner. Infact, a few months back, my dad upped and refused to pay the full council tax amount because our binbags were forgotten about 7 times that month. They threatened us with legal action, but my dad just replied in a simple letter:

Dear Sir or Madam,
Just as I would not pay the full price for a car with no wheels, I shall not pay full price for half-assed services.

Yours Sincerely,
Keith Phillips


Havent heard from them since. Guess they figured the cost'd be too high to take a HGV driver to court :rotfl:

AVGWarhawk
01-02-08, 09:32 AM
I feel you pain man!!! On the 31st December I received notification that my house and property were re-assessed in value basically meaning my property taxes are going up. It is pretty simple....if the state needs money, the property owners turn into a ATM machine. No PIN required to take cash out. :down:

HunterICX
01-02-08, 09:45 AM
Well, its the same story here in southern spain (just reading the newspaper)

Electricity , Gas , water prices rises
Mortgage rises

where is the pause button? or when are the paychecks rising too :stare:

HunterICX

AVGWarhawk
01-02-08, 10:11 AM
Well, its the same story here in southern spain (just reading the newspaper)

Electricity , Gas , water prices rises
Mortgage rises

where is the pause button? or when are the paychecks rising too :stare:

HunterICX

Yes, all taxes in the state of Maryland (US) are going up. Normally it is not to much of a raise in taxes but this year they are going for the juggular. Like you, my increase in pay this year (0 dollars) is not keeping up with it all.

STEED
01-02-08, 10:27 AM
why dont you fellas start a New French revolution :D

HunterICX

Because if we do anything with the word "French" in it, we'll need everyone elses help!


Steed, me and my entire family are in your corner. Infact, a few months back, my dad upped and refused to pay the full council tax amount because our binbags were forgotten about 7 times that month. They threatened us with legal action, but my dad just replied in a simple letter:

Dear Sir or Madam,
Just as I would not pay the full price for a car with no wheels, I shall not pay full price for half-assed services.

Yours Sincerely,
Keith Phillips


Havent heard from them since. Guess they figured the cost'd be too high to take a HGV driver to court :rotfl:

Keep fighting them and stand your ground. :up:

I am waiting of my summands to court for with holding a certain amount which I feel they do not deserve, one reason are streets are supposed to be swept clean every six weeks yea right, like when was the last time two years ago. We must all take on these greedy pigs to swindle us out of our money, I've not had a pay rise in three years go and spin I say.

The Munster
01-02-08, 10:27 AM
Sigh .. not the news I really wanted right now :nope:

Kapitan
01-03-08, 03:12 PM
why dont you fellas start a New French revolution :D

HunterICX

Because if we do anything with the word "French" in it, we'll need everyone elses help!


Steed, me and my entire family are in your corner. Infact, a few months back, my dad upped and refused to pay the full council tax amount because our binbags were forgotten about 7 times that month. They threatened us with legal action, but my dad just replied in a simple letter:

Dear Sir or Madam,
Just as I would not pay the full price for a car with no wheels, I shall not pay full price for half-assed services.

Yours Sincerely,
Keith Phillips


Havent heard from them since. Guess they figured the cost'd be too high to take a HGV driver to court :rotfl:

Well that one can come back and bite you hard in the arse, they wont forget it i can assure you that, our council is in full radio and mobile phone communication with all its crews we are allowed to leave late refuse ie people who put thier bags out after we have been through, and also we are allowed to leave bags that are not outside the property as we are not allowed to enter anyones property period.

Whats more the cost of taking a HGV driver to court is minimal it would all be tax payers money so you would only be paying for yourself to go to court.

Another thing is if you broke down your council tax bill as our manager in our place did he outlined everything we pay, we found that out of the 212,000 properties in our area each property pays just £6.95 for thier refuse service (that doesnt even pay my wage for one hour! im on £9.78 an hour)

So if your dad stopped the payment by £100 he is still liable because your council tax also pays for things like the police service in your area fire ambulence and also and hospitals and NHS trusts.

They may have "forgot" about it but the thing is they do let that happen to ride on the intrest so if he held back £100 in 3 or 4 months time with the intrest rates around 30% he will have a court order put on him to pay that plus the intrest and charges.

Sadly ive seen many people be done over by the same system.

Sailor Steve
01-03-08, 06:27 PM
...property taxes...
You know the US Constitution states "No man shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law."

And yet they levy a tax on your property, which if you don't pay they will take your house away, and call it "due process."

What's to keep them from levying a tax on your liberty, or your life, and calling that "due process"? It sounds like protection money to me.

AVGWarhawk
01-03-08, 06:36 PM
...property taxes...
You know the US Constitution states "No man shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law."

And yet they levy a tax on your property, which if you don't pay they will take your house away, and call it "due process."

What's to keep them from levying a tax on your liberty, or your life, and calling that "due process"? It sounds like protection money to me.

Let's face it, they hold all the cards. If you want to play out the hand, be prepared to lose it all. Often, when I think of taxes, I think back to the window tax that was institued in Colonial times. You were taxed on the amount of windows in your shack! Now that is grasping!

Letum
01-03-08, 06:47 PM
Remember, tax ain't there to annoy us. ;)

It is there to enhance and protect your life, liberty and property.

Nuclear subs and school books.

STEED
01-03-08, 06:55 PM
Remember, tax ain't there to annoy us. ;)

Really?

I see no deluxe soft toilet paper in the public toilets only that rough stuff. :o

Letum
01-03-08, 07:08 PM
Remember, tax ain't there to annoy us. ;)
Really?

I see no deluxe soft toilet paper in the public toilets only that rough stuff. :o

If you want lower taxes, then perhaps a bring-your-own looroll system might be the answer.

Or a vending machine that charges you a few pence per square. The poor must do without.

STEED
01-03-08, 07:14 PM
Remember, tax ain't there to annoy us. ;)
Really?

I see no deluxe soft toilet paper in the public toilets only that rough stuff. :o

If you want lower taxes, then perhaps a bring-your-own looroll system might be the answer.

Or a vending machine that charges you a few pence per square. The poor must do without.

Getting a pack of three for the weekend? Yea, three soft rolls of toilet paper. :rotfl:

Stealth Hunter
01-04-08, 02:10 AM
Our dollar might be crap at the moment, but thank God we're not paying these sorts of taxes.:o

mrbeast
01-04-08, 03:27 AM
Thank god my taxes pay for the NHS.

joegrundman
01-04-08, 05:05 AM
I think back to the window tax that was institued in Colonial times. You were taxed on the amount of windows in your shack! Now that is grasping!

Well that was a clearly a British idea, since we in britain kept a window tax until the late 1980's. My parent's home, and where i grew up, is pretty old (ground floor in 1600s, next floor up in 1750) and there are bricked in windows because of this tax.

mrbeast
01-04-08, 07:16 AM
I think back to the window tax that was institued in Colonial times. You were taxed on the amount of windows in your shack! Now that is grasping!

Well that was a clearly a British idea, since we in britain kept a window tax until the late 1980's. My parent's home, and where i grew up, is pretty old (ground floor in 1600s, next floor up in 1750) and there are bricked in windows because of this tax.

IIRC so was income tax, first levied to pay for the Napoleonic Wars.

Also they taxed wig powder too which caused the wearing of wigs to fall out of fashion.........so not all tax is bad clearly!:hmm: :D

STEED
01-04-08, 08:19 AM
I think back to the window tax that was institued in Colonial times. You were taxed on the amount of windows in your shack! Now that is grasping!

Well that was a clearly a British idea, since we in britain kept a window tax until the late 1980's. My parent's home, and where i grew up, is pretty old (ground floor in 1600s, next floor up in 1750) and there are bricked in windows because of this tax.

I believe the window tax was bought back under our Labour government. :hmm:

Letum
01-04-08, 01:41 PM
I think back to the window tax that was institued in Colonial times. You were taxed on the amount of windows in your shack! Now that is grasping!
Well that was a clearly a British idea, since we in britain kept a window tax until the late 1980's. My parent's home, and where i grew up, is pretty old (ground floor in 1600s, next floor up in 1750) and there are bricked in windows because of this tax.
I believe the window tax was bought back under our Labour government. :hmm:

Wasn't that only in Scotland?

Theyre was also a chimney tax at one time. More likely to fund a war or arms race,
then to clear the London smog.

STEED
01-04-08, 02:14 PM
Theyre was also a chimney tax at one time. More likely to fund a war or arms race,
then to clear the London smog.

Cough, cough.

Excuse me, bloody London smog. :lol: