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XabbaRus
01-01-08, 01:15 PM
Anyone know of any sources that show where WWII naval mines were laid?

Fish
01-01-08, 01:21 PM
Anyone know of any sources that show where WWII naval mines were laid?

Looking for this?

http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3414.html

Mine fields aren't there, chains has broken, storms fishery.
Belgium and Dutch navy found (and destroyed) 95 mines and aircraft bombs in the North Sea last year only.

Blacklight
01-01-08, 04:16 PM
I'd imagine that there are still hundreds of those dangerous things still out there floating in or under the sea in those areas that have yet to be found. Makes me wonder if any have ever broken free from their anchors and if there are any out there just wandering the ocean currents just waiting for something to hit it.

Linton
01-01-08, 04:30 PM
I would be interested to knoww about the position of axis minefields in the central Mediterranean.

Letum
01-01-08, 06:49 PM
I'd imagine that there are still hundreds of those dangerous things still out there floating in or under the sea in those areas that have yet to be found. Makes me wonder if any have ever broken free from their anchors and if there are any out there just wandering the ocean currents just waiting for something to hit it.

Ohhh! Loads broke free! They exploded on the beaches not far from me when they
washed up. Almost every town here has a deactivated mine that washed ashore,
usualy converted into a charity box. Mostly 1st world war ones.
Plenty more mines where deployed without anchors.

I have no idea if it was used at all, but there was a self deactivating trigger invented
before the 1st world war. It used a chemical reaction to disarm the trigger after sevral
years in sea water or when the anchor broke.

baggygreen
01-01-08, 10:25 PM
Well,

doesnt GWX have minefields as accurately represented as possible??:ping:

Stealth Hunter
01-01-08, 11:35 PM
There are still hundreds of mines floating around in the ocean from World War I alone. World War II, well, nobody really knows. Could be hundreds, could be thousands. Good fact is most have been found... as far as we know...

baggygreen
01-01-08, 11:57 PM
There are still hundreds of mines floating around in the ocean from World War I alone. World War II, well, nobody really knows. Could be hundreds, could be thousands. Good fact is most have been found... as far as we know...we hope!:yep:

Letum
01-02-08, 12:15 AM
I suppose moden subs have some sort of mine detection system right?
Same for modern war ships?

Do large cargo ships have degaussing systems?

jumpy
01-02-08, 12:36 AM
what about : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort's_Dyke
http://www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/dumfries-and-galloway/What-lies-beneath.1173419.jp

interesting stuff.

Letum
01-02-08, 01:01 AM
what about : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort's_Dyke
http://www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/dumfries-and-galloway/What-lies-beneath.1173419.jp

interesting stuff.


Yikes! Thats a hell of a lot of boom sitting down there.

Fish
01-03-08, 05:08 PM
http://www.xs4all.nl/~peschiwj/kotter%20met%20mijn.jpg




http://www.xs4all.nl/~peschiwj/Bom.jpg

And believe me, most fishers will throw them over board as quick as they can.

Kapitan
01-03-08, 05:31 PM
We had a massive scare down in a place called southend when a mine was found, just off the beach not even a mile out theres a sunken ammunition ship richard montgommery and its full of unexploded ordinance, if that mine detonated (it was found few fundred yards from her) then most of southends window would be gone plus the pier and what ever else was around.

Happy Times
01-03-08, 11:32 PM
Anyone know of any sources that show where WWII naval mines were laid?

Everything on mine warfare in the Finnish Gulf from 1939-1945 and some extra.

http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Mines/mines.htm

http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Images/Maps/mines1941.gif

http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Images/Maps/Antisub-1942.gif

http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Images/Maps/Antisub-1943.gif

http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/Images/Maps/Antisub-1944.gif

swifty
01-03-08, 11:50 PM
It's quite common for unexploded ordinance to wash ashore here in Florida. I know an officer who was at the receiving end of an unexploded artillery flare. About 15 years ago a round washed ashore and he was one of the first on scene. At this time only the county did not have a bomb squad and the fire department thought it was their responsibility. As he was clearing people from the area the idiot fire chief took an ax to the shell.:damn: It ended up exploding and peppering the officers with calcium phosphide and shrapnel, who was down wind. The fire chief was unharmed.

His first instinct was to jump into the ocean to extinguish the flames. However this only makes the calcium phosphide burn more, it actually can suck the oxygen from the water. He was then transported to nearest hospital. But the nearest burn unit able to give him a mineral oil bath, the only thing that can extinguish the CP, was 120 miles north in Orlando. Now he is still burning so the surgery will not admit him due to the high oxygen content and he is denied air transport to Orlando for the same reason.:damn: So doctors had to pulled out the visible pieces and then finale flew him north when he was finally fully treated.

Now this is where the story would normally end but... After 5 years of healing and rehab, his knee was destroyed, he returned to duty. On the first day back on the job he was the first responder to a building fire and entered the building to save a girl. I not shore of the details but he ended up having to jump out of a 2nd story window and ended up back in the hospital.:damn: From now on he has the nickname Flambo. He is now back on duty and hasn't had any problems with fire since.

swifty
01-04-08, 12:16 AM
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2007/nov/20/possible-explosive-device-turns-hutchinson-island-/

In the comments section the officer that was hit is c_bates.

Etienne
01-04-08, 01:12 AM
Do large cargo ships have degaussing systems?

No.

Most of the charts around the North Sea, German Bight and Baltic have mine warning on them ("Minefields once existed in these waters, and mines might pause a danger to navigation, anchoring or dredging. Mariners encountering mines should immediatly contact local authorities, etc, etc" or something like that. I haven't been over there in a good long while, so I don't remember.), but it's mostly the BA covering their a..., since the actual mine fields aren't marked on the chart.

Blacklight
01-04-08, 02:10 AM
http://www.xs4all.nl/~peschiwj/kotter%20met%20mijn.jpg




http://www.xs4all.nl/~peschiwj/Bom.jpg

And believe me, most fishers will throw them over board as quick as they can.

I'm just imagineing the scene right now of..
"Pull in the nets !"
"Look at the strain on the cables ! We must have a TON of fish in there !!!"
*BOOM !!!*
*tons of fish come falling from the sky, landing all over the deck*

Stealth Hunter
01-04-08, 02:14 AM
"Where's your fish now, Bob?!?" :p

This reminds me of a story about the Titanic. Two years after the ship had sank, a Spanish cargo liner heading to Brazil spotted what they thought was a man in the water. They fished him out, and he was little more than a skeleton, although his fine dress clothes remained intact, save for a shoe that was missing along with his tie. Anyway, they hauled him aboard, looked at the lifebelt and read the word TITANIC on it.

Wouldn't that be a funny find?

Blacklight
01-04-08, 02:32 AM
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1781/minestupedel0.jpg

danlisa
01-04-08, 03:53 AM
doesnt GWX have minefields as accurately represented as possible??:ping:
Yes it does. However, it is only based on the publically available information, until now.;)

Very kindly, a user of GWX and researcher of U-Boat locations in & around the British Isles has given us access to the WWII Admiralty Charts showing Allied minefields in the North Sea & English Channel. We have also been supplied the German Minefield maps showing safe/secret passages through their fields.:rock:

I'm not sure of the legality of sharing these, so I won't.

Needless to say, if you want accurate locations on the Allied/Axis minefields from 1939 onwards around the British Isles, wait for GWX 2.1 then check out the campaign layers.:arrgh!: