How to send beer to Canada?

[SUBMAN1]

Hey - anyone here know what the proceedure is for sending beer through Canadian customs? I can't seem to find an answer on this one. :x

-S

[DeepIron]

Personally I find drinking it first and then crossing the border works just fine... :smug:

[Tchocky]

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Note - This may hurt

[SUBMAN1]

You guys are not inspiring much confidence in me here. :lol: Does anyone know though? I want to send a couple bottles up there, but I don't want to get fined.

ie. - I want to do it legally without threat of a fine.

-S

[wamphyri]

As a Canadian I feel like I'm able to answer this question honestly .. I don't know. But I was curious so I looked it up on the internet. As indicated in the linkie provided and the little snippet that I have here .. NO .. you can't mail beer to canada. Intoxicating Beverages Intoxicating beverages can only be shipped when: * a Provincial Liquor Board or Commission is mailing to a manufacturer, distributor or individual * a manufacturer of such beverages is mailing to a Provincial Liquor Board or Commission, to a distributor of such beverages in Canada, or to an individual within the same province * a distributor of such beverages is mailing to a Provincial Liquor Board or Commission, to a manufacturer or distributor of such beverages in Canada, or to an individual within the same province * they are mailed between a peace officer and a test laboratory for the purpose of carrying out a lawful investigation. Regardless of who is shipping, special restrictions apply if the intoxicating beverage is: * more than 24% alcohol by volume (e.g. 48 proof) and in a container greater than five litres (5 l) * more than 70% alcohol by volume (e.g. 140 proof). NOTE :Service is only available to Parcel Services contract customers or VentureOne customers using Electronic Shipping Tools (EST) and selecting the Proof of Age option. http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGnonmail-e.asp#1378246 So there's no legal way for an individual Inside Canada to send beer to someone else in canada. You can bet that guarantees that no one outside can send in.

[SUBMAN1]

Ouch! This is pretty restrictive. I wonder if there is a loophole?

-S

[bookworm_020]

Where's Al Capone when you need him most!;)

[SUBMAN1]

ns! :D This is a pretty pathetic 1930's law (assuming it coincided with American prohibition). Seems Canada needs to get with modern times. Trying to find a decent beer in Canada is a case in frustration. Especially in Toronto. Montreal has a little better selection, but nothing to write home about.

-S

[Chock]

You could always try putting it on a Tu-95, apparently there's quite a few going that way:rotfl:

:D Chock

[SUBMAN1]

You could always try putting it on a Tu-95, apparently there's quite a few going that way:rotfl:

:D Chock:lol: Ok - you get a beer sent your way for making me spew beer on my monitor! Bastard made me laugh while I was taking a drink! :D

-S

[joea]

ns! :D This is a pretty pathetic 1930's law (assuming it coincided with American prohibition). Seems Canada needs to get with modern times. Trying to find a decent beer in Canada is a case in frustration. Especially in Toronto. Montreal has a little better selection, but nothing to write home about.

-S

Errr what? :doh:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

That law is ridiculous. Yes, there should be restrictions, but certainly not that strict.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like they'll just have to keep drinking that melted yellow snow :lol:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Trying to find a decent beer in Canada is a case in frustration. Especially in Toronto. Montreal has a little better selection, but nothing to write home about.


You need to go to the Atlantic Provinces to get good beer :yep:


RDP

[STEED]

Offer them free sex that usually works. :roll:

[swifty]

Ouch! This is pretty restrictive. I wonder if there is a loophole?

-S

Buy a plane ticket and bring it in yourself.
Your allowed one six pack per visit. :damn:

[SUBMAN1]

Ouch! This is pretty restrictive. I wonder if there is a loophole?

-S
Buy a plane ticket and bring it in yourself.
Your allowed one six pack per visit. :damn:Thats a pretty expensive loophole!

[swifty]

Ouch! This is pretty restrictive. I wonder if there is a loophole?

-S
Buy a plane ticket and bring it in yourself.
Your allowed one six pack per visit. :damn:Thats a pretty expensive loophole!

Wait for a super saver fare or use your frequent flyer points. Just make sure you don't finish the six pack while waiting 4 hours to get thru security and board the plane.

This is the first time I've herd of someone trying to get booze into Canadian. First whit prohibition then with underage kids making road trip so they can get beer for the party.

[SUBMAN1]

Well, that is why I want to expose a few people to better beer up there. Like some here, they 'think' they have a wide selection. Hardly. I'd say there is a selection of at least 300+ different kinds of beer right across the street from my house. Canadians idea of a wide selection hardly includes anything in the Ale classs. Most are lagers. I even went into a liquor store in Toronto, and still they had no real selection. I went to the Beer stores, still no selection - all crap beer. Its really bad.

I did find one I kind of liked - Churchkey - http://www.churchkeybrewing.com/ Their Ale is not bad. Drank some of their Holy Smoke, but the Ale is what a gravitated to.

-S

PS. Looks like they will be making a West Coast style Ale - so when I go back, they might have something even better:

West Coast Pale Ale
http://www.churchkeybrewing.com/images/brands_hops.jpg While traveling on the West Coast of the US, I absolutely fell in love with the hoppy pale ales that they are brewing in cities like San Diego, San Fran and Seattle. So, I immediately got to work on my interpretation of this Style. We use Canadian two row barley and a very liberal helping of Chinook hops. Hope you enjoy.

[wamphyri]

Well I didn't actually answer your question about customs .. just shipping. So I found this link

http://canadaonline.about.com/od/customs/a/customsalcohol.htm

You could bring the beer up here but you can't ship it. Although, some liquor stores here will special order stuff. Lota hassle tho :(

[Mush Martin]

Just send me money I will go to the beerstore on my dogsled.
M

[fatty]

Trying to find a decent beer in Canada is a case in frustration. Especially in Toronto. Montreal has a little better selection, but nothing to write home about.


You need to go to the Atlantic Provinces to get good beer :yep:


RDP

Agreed! Most Nova Scotia Liquor Commission stores have a very large cold beer storage - an enormous walk-in fridge - with an extensive selection. They've also got a pretty wide variety in the 'beers of the world' section. And of course, I've lost count of how many microbreweries there are in Halifax. It all just depends on where you are.

[SUBMAN1]

Hmm... Seems I can bring in 24 beers:


Customs Regulations for Visitors Bringing Alcohol Into Canada


Visitors Duty-Free Allowance for Alcohol

If you are a a visitor to Canada, you are allowed to bring a small quantity of alcohol (wine, liquor, beer or coolers) into the country without having to pay duty or taxes as long as:

the alcohol accompanies you
you meet the minimum legal drinking age (http://canadaonline.about.com/od/canadianlaw/g/drinkingage.htm) for the province or territory at which you enter Canada. You may bring in one of

1.5 litres (50.7 US ounces) of wine, including wine coolers over 0.5 percent alcohol, or
1.14 litres (38.5 US ounces) of liquor, or
a total of 1.14 litres (38.5 US ounces) of wine and liquor, or
24 x 355 millilitre (12 ounce) cans or bottles of beer or ale, including beer coolers over 0.5 percent alcohol (a maximum of 8.5 litres or 287.4 US ounces). Bringing More Than the Duty-Free Allowance of Alcohol Into Canada

Except in the Northwest Territories and Nunavut, if you are a visitor to Canada you may bring in more than the personal allowances of liquor listed above as long as you pay customs and province / territory assessments.
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The amounts you are allowed to bring into Canada are also limited by the province or territory in which you enter Canada. For details on specific amounts and rates, contact the liquor control authority (http://www.calj.org/cms/templates/public.asp?articleid=45&zoneid=3) for the appropriate province or territory before you come to Canada.
Customs Contact Information

If you have questions or require more information on bringing alcohol into Canada, please contact the Canada Borders Services Agency (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/contact/menu-eng.html).

[SUBMAN1]

Candian Borders service agency says this:

Alcohol and tobacco

If you meet the minimum age requirements of the province or territory where you enter Canada, you can include limited quantities of alcoholic beverages in your personal exemption. These items must accompany you on your arrival.
Minimum ages for the importation of alcoholic beverages, as prescribed by provincial or territorial authority, are as follows:

18 years for Alberta, Manitoba and Quebec; and
19 years for Yukon, the Northwest Territories, Nunavut, British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Ontario, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador. Alcoholic beverages

You are allowed to import only one of the following amounts of alcohol free of duty and taxes:

1.5 litres (53 imperial ounces) of wine;
1.14 litres (40 ounces) of liquor;
a total of 1.14 litres (40 ounces) of wine and liquor; or
24 x 355 millilitre (12 ounces) cans or bottles (maximum of 8.5 litres) of beer or ale. Note

We classify "cooler" products according to the alcoholic beverage they contain. For example, beer coolers are considered to be beer, wine coolers are considered to be wine. We do not consider beer and wine products not exceeding 0.5% alcohol by volume to be alcoholic beverages.
You can bring in more than the free allowance of alcohol except in Nunavut and the Northwest Territories. However, the quantities must be within the limit set by the province or territory where you will enter Canada. If the value of the goods is more than the free allowance, you will have to pay both customs and provincial/territorial assessments. For more information, check with the appropriate provincial or territorial liquor control authority before your arrival back to Canada.

[SUBMAN1]

The official reply from Ontario's LCBO:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the importation of beverage alcohol into Ontario for personal use.

A casual traveller who is of legal drinking age in Ontario (19) may import on their person up to 45 litres of wine, spirits, beer or any combination thereof. This amount is in addition to a casual traveller's duty free exemption. Unlike the duty free entitlement, there is no minimum required absence from Canada to import up to 45 litres of beverage alcohol on any one day. Travellers should ensure that they have
receipts for purchases to present to Customs officials.

For information about personal duty-free exemptions you may visit this link to the Canada Border Service Agency's web site:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5056-eng.html#P025

No federal or provincial taxes or levies are collected on the duty free exemption. As shown in the attached examples (please see the "Accompanied" portion of the spreadsheet), an accompanied importation of beverage alcohol is subject to federal duties and taxes, provincial tax and a provincial border levy. The provincial border levy is calculated on the landed cost of the importation (i.e., prior to the assessment of PST and GST). All types of alcohol are subject to these limits. The following provincial levy rates are applied to accompanied importations:


Wine: 39.6% of the declared value

Spirits: 59.9% of the declared value

Beer: $0.676/litre.

Levies and taxes are collected by Canada Border Service Agency (CBSA) officers at the time a casual traveller clears Customs. No prior notice to CBSA is required.
Information about federal taxes due is available from Canada Border Services Agency at 506-636-5064 (outside Canada), or 1-800-461-9999 (within Canada).

We hope the foregoing information will be of assistance to you.

Thank you again for having contacted the LCBO.

[SUBMAN1]

I have the final answer!!! I can ship beer to Canada!

-S

Thank you for your message regarding unaccompanied importations. Please find below detailed information about this channel.

Direct Shipment (Unaccompanied Unsolicited Importations):

In the event that a traveller does not accompany the beverage alcohol they purchased abroad or a resident or non-resident has it shipped directly to Ontario from a foreign manufacturer, they must ensure that documentation is included providing the value of the goods that can be attested to for Customs purposes. Proof of payment, such as a Visa receipt, is required. Goods are subject to all federal and provincial levies and taxes apply. The following border levy rates apply:

Wine: 102.2% of the declared value

Spirits: 143.7% of the declared value

Beer: $1.70/litre

Beverage alcohol may not be sent through the postal stream, but by freight. Shipments of up to 45-litres per day can be cleared by UPS SCS Inc., LCBO's appointed customs broker. UPS SCS Inc. collects the provincial border levy and Canada Border Services Agency officials collect all other taxes. UPS SCS Inc. is a full service brokerage firm and can assist clients with the entire clearance process if they wish.
Contact information for UPS SCS Inc: Nicole Bachner 905-678-2130.

Shipments must meet these additional requirements:

* Be clearly marked and declared on all documentation as beverage alcohol; not include any non-beverage alcohol items.

* Be consigned to the LCBO c/o person's name seeking to import the shipment.

* Be accompanied by a fully completed Canada Customs Invoice (CCI).
(To access an on-line CCI, please visit Canada Border Service Agency's Web site at: <http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pbg/cf/ci1/README.html

* The CCI must clearly and legibly indicate brand name, vintage if applicable, alc./vol., format and quantity of beverage alcohol in the shipment.

* The CCI must include an accurate valuation of each beverage alcohol product that complies with the federal Customs Act.
(This must include proof of payment - such as a Visa receipt.)

* Not exceed the 45-litre daily limit. This is not a brand or supplier limit, but a total daily limit.

* Not be consolidated with other shipments.

* Not be abstracted to attempt to comply with the maximum volume limit.

Freight costs are not included as they will have been arranged separately; the individual is responsible for paying all freight and any storage charges that may arise.

The attached file also shows you a few hypothetical examples for this scenario so that you can see the components and where they fit into determination of overall costs. (please see the "Unaccompanied" portion of the spreadsheet.)

We hope this additional information will be of assistance.

Thank you again for having contacted the LCBO.

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[SUBMAN1]

By the way, thanks for some of your answers. It helped point me in the right direction.

-S

[Tchocky]

That news calls for opening a bottle, SUBMAN :)

[SUBMAN1]

That news calls for opening a bottle, SUBMAN :)I gonna! I will probably grab an Eisbock later on. Found a new German Eisbock I have yet to try. A little lighter than some at only 11.3%, but still strong enough.

-S

[joea]

cheers to all beer lovers !! :()1:

[ReallyDedPoet]

I am having one of these for you as I type this :yep:

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Another great Canadian Beer :D


RDP

[ReallyDedPoet]

Just send me money I will go to the beerstore on my dogsled.
M

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

That's the stuff M. :up:


RDP