What's next? Glowing cats?

[Syxx_Killer]

Yes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071212/ts_afp/healthscienceskoreacloning

[AVGWarhawk]

I had seen this today. Strange isn't it? Sometimes I think we dig into things that just should not be fooled with. I'm thinking this is one of them.

[Ducimus]

Where'd all that info come from?

Cloning doesnt bother me. What bothers me, is the idea of the technology behind it being abused for some twisted or perverse reason.

[Reaves]

Where'd all that info come from?

Cloning doesnt bother me. What bothers me, is the idea of the technology behind it being abused for some twisted or perverse reason.

Or for helping humanity by stopping the need for organ donars in the future while also insuring a surplus in all blood types.


I think it's a good thing, it just needs to be heavily monitored.

[Stealth Hunter]

For what reason? Clones can't think, and there's no way they can fix that. Unlike regular people, clones do not develop the skills and such that regulars do in the womb.

There's nothing that can be done with one for deadly purposes.

[Letum]

For what reason? Clones can't think, and there's no way they can fix that. Unlike regular people, clones do not develop the skills and such that regulars do in the womb.

There's nothing that can be done with one for deadly purposes.


:rotfl: You are taking the piss right?
Either that or you have seen too many films!

[Stealth Hunter]

I'm serious. The lamb clones can't react or do anything. Same for the cats. They're brain-dead meat puppets.

[Letum]

I'm serious. The lamb clones can't react or do anything. Same for the cats. They're brain-dead meat puppets.

You have seen too many films!
Where on Earth did you hear such nonesense? :doh:

Almost all sucsessful clones are fully mentaly functional as far as is known at the moment.
The following are the only major problems with cloneing and colnes:

More than 90% of cloning attempts fail to produce viable offspring.

Cloned animals tend to have more compromised immune function and higher rates of
infection, tumor growth, and other disorders.

Japanese studies have shown that cloned mice live in poor health and die early.

About a third of the cloned calves born alive have died young, and many of them
were abnormally large.

Clones have been known to die mysteriously. For example, Australia's first cloned
sheep appeared healthy and energetic on the day she died, and the results from her
autopsy failed to determine a cause of death.

[bookworm_020]

I think you will find that they still have all there senses (if cloned correctly) and have the ability to operate independant of outside help. The biggest problem with cloneing is that they inherit the age of the donor ( If the donor is 10 years old, then the clone will have the wear and tear on the DNA of the 10 year old donor from day one). This was found out by Dolly the sheep (the first clone)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep

Meat puppets I think not!:nope:

Well maybe a lamb chop....

[Letum]

Just to be pedantic:

Dolly was only the first mammal clone, amphibians have been cloned since the early 50s.

The clones inherit a age significantly older than the donor's age because the first cell
inherits the donor age, but the growth period increaces the age of each cell until the
animal stops growing.

This is because cell age is determined by how many divisions each cell and its parent
cells have made and not by time.

[Boris]

I'm serious. The lamb clones can't react or do anything. Same for the cats. They're brain-dead meat puppets.

No I think you're confusing things, they're born without a soul. The tests for a soul came up negative, really :rotfl:

[mrbeast]

Actually cloning isn't dangerous at all. You could make a thousand soldiers, but they don't have brains to function. Basically, they're meat puppets who just stand there and have a VERY short lifespan. The cost is huge to clone something, and the rewards are almost nothing (save for possibly cloning humans for organs, blood, etc.).

Potentially, it has only one corridor to walk down, and it's safe all the way (clones are so pathetic mentally that you could infuse them with an identity, such as a name and memories and such, and they'd never be able to wake from their brain-dead state). You know they lack the basic capability to hear and thus understand? There's no way you could ever get one to behave like they do in the movies. It's impossible and just makes for good writing material.

Nothing at all to worry about.

So whats the deal with identical twins then? They are in effect naturally occuring clones. I've known a few and they had all of their faculties intact. :hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

Why does this thread remind me of Blade Runner?

-S

[STEED]

Just saw a news item on TV talk about weird seeing those glowing cat's made me laugh.

[Seth8530]

Actually cloning isn't dangerous at all. You could make a thousand soldiers, but they don't have brains to function. Basically, they're meat puppets who just stand there and have a VERY short lifespan. The cost is huge to clone something, and the rewards are almost nothing (save for possibly cloning humans for organs, blood, etc.).

Potentially, it has only one corridor to walk down, and it's safe all the way (clones are so pathetic mentally that you could infuse them with an identity, such as a name and memories and such, and they'd never be able to wake from their brain-dead state). You know they lack the basic capability to hear and thus understand? There's no way you could ever get one to behave like they do in the movies. It's impossible and just makes for good writing material.

Nothing at all to worry about.
So whats the deal with identical twins then? They are in effect naturally occuring clones. I've known a few and they had all of their faculties intact. :hmm:

There is no deal with identical twins, im an identical twin and we are perfectly normal excpet for being telapathic.

[Letum]

:rotfl:

[CCIP]

:rotfl:
My reaction is somewhere between that and :huh:

And to think at one point I wanted to go into studying genetics, and know a few people who did :hmm: