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zoso791
12-11-07, 06:46 PM
Hey all
This morning I was playing SHIII and was forced to partrol grid right next to Scapa Flow. (I don't recall the name but thats besides the point) I was that captain of the beautiful U140 an old rusty Type IID with a crew of rookies looking for some training. As we approached the English coast near the south coast the weather became very nasty. (wind rain you guys know what I'm talking about) So to save my crew from the hours of labor I dove down to 25meters and headed ahead slow (1 knot) After hours and hours of waiting I went to periscope depth and found that the storm had passed and the weather was... well it was still kind of crappy because of the high seas but there was no rain.
As we approached the grid we were to patrol the weather again got very nasty. Visibility went down to nearly nothing and the rain was falling sideways. I again decided to dive down (this time to 50m) and head ahead slow. About an hour after we dove I was awoken by the screams of my hydrophone operator. "Merchan contact bearing 311 medium range and closing!" I ordered ahead full and up to periscope depth. After about 10 minutes of following the sounds. BAM there she was a HUGE fully loaded large merchant range 1100m. I ordered my torpedoes to be loaded. On at 11m with the magnetic exploder and the other at 1m and impact. FIRE ONE AND TWO! Both entered the water and screamed towards unsuspecting merchant.
The crew and I patiently waited as the clock ticked down. BOOM ... BOOM!! Both torpedoes exploded and left the merchant with a huge gash on the port side that stretched from underneath the hull up to the deck. The merchant slowly limped away but didn't get far as the engines soon died and she began to sink.
I reloaded the torpedoes and found that I still had 4 good fish to use and no one to use it on.
"Surface the boat we're heading to Scapa!" I ordered. Ahead standard was ordered and we headed towards the British base. The weather was still horrid as the winds were howling and the waves nearly took out my crew. As we reached the island we snuk in between three sunken merchants and hugged the coast as long as we could. But as we reached the big bay I realized that it was too early to attack and the visibility was nearly 0. I ordered all stop and we waited....and waited and waited until about 2400. I ordered ahead 2/3 and we headed towards the port. Visibility was still poor but as I looked through the UZO i see a ship... FIJI CLASS heavy crusier just sitting there.
"Periscope depth ahead slow rig for silent!"
We neared the target and noted that the destroyers that were supposed to protect it were either just sailing away. As we approached the target the weather begins to clear. And there she is...the 10000+ ton FIJI ClASS range... 2400m speed 0 angle to bow 94. Three torpedoes were launched two set to 8m magnetic and one for impact. Three minutes passed.... BOOOM BOOOM....... but where's the other one.... I waited for the last torpedo to load and fire... depth 1m impact.
By now the FIJI CLASS was healed over quite a bit to port and water covered most of the port side deck. As the last torpedo launched I ordered the crew to turn around and hug the coast. As we neared the exit point (the upper penninsula one with the three sunken merchants) the torpedo exploded. BOOOM the crusier nearly leaped out of the water...broke in two and sank. We exited the bay without a scratch..without being detected and without loosing a single soul. At the end of the day I ordered head standard and to head back to base.


Final results
2 ships sunk
17958 tons
6 torpedos used....

Sorry its so long but it takes a while
Jan Lentowicz
U-140

sasquatch
12-11-07, 07:57 PM
something's wrong here. how'd you get 6 torps. Type II's only have 5.

not a bad little raid. The last time I raided Scapa Flow I sunk a 30,000 ton BB; forget the name though.

zoso791
12-11-07, 08:12 PM
in my SHIII they have three. I'm positive. Maybe I did something wrong. I'm running GWX 1.03 and it has 6.

sasquatch
12-11-07, 08:46 PM
Just did some research. Type II's do indeed have 6 torps. Then why does "vanilla" only give them 5? 6 is low enough already... I guess I should move on with the times and get GWX already.

I am Back
12-11-07, 09:14 PM
Nice dude, my first time in Scapa Flow I sunk but I learned from my lessons and with a Type IIA I sunk a Revenge-class Ship (After I learned of the Royal Oak History, nice to read some). That was 2 days before U 49 sunk the Royal Oak. Dont remember the Tonnage

Sailor Steve
12-12-07, 12:03 PM
The Type II torpedo loadout is an argument that goes back several years. Aces Of The Deep gave them 6, but people complained that research showed them only having 5. SHII gave them 5, and some people complained. SHIII gave them 5, and people complained. GWX gave them 6, and people complained.

The reality? Some sources say 5, some say 6. The problem is that they are all secondary sources, and no one seems to be able to find a primary source that says either way.

A careful examination of interior drawings indicates that there was only room under the deck for two spares, so 5 seems to be right. However, some people have said they've heard anecdotal evidence that since the patrols in a Type II were so short kaleuns were willing to discomfit the torpedo crew by carrying a sixth eel on the torpedo room deck.

Bottom line: the argument has been going on for years, and no one has yet come up with a definitive answer; so use what you think best and claim you're right.

sasquatch
12-12-07, 02:39 PM
The Type II torpedo loadout is an argument that goes back several years. Aces Of The Deep gave them 6, but people complained that research showed them only having 5. SHII gave them 5, and some people complained. SHIII gave them 5, and people complained. GWX gave them 6, and people complained.

The reality? Some sources say 5, some say 6. The problem is that they are all secondary sources, and no one seems to be able to find a primary source that says either way.

A careful examination of interior drawings indicates that there was only room under the deck for two spares, so 5 seems to be right. However, some people have said they've heard anecdotal evidence that since the patrols in a Type II were so short kaleuns were willing to discomfit the torpedo crew by carrying a sixth eel on the torpedo room deck.

Bottom line: the argument has been going on for years, and no one has yet come up with a definitive answer; so use what you think best and claim you're right.

Thanks for the intruiging information...

U49
12-12-07, 02:51 PM
The 6th torpedo would have a "terrible" effect for the already unpleasent crew spaces and the trim situation of the boat.

Although it could be loaded, it would be almost impossible to perform the required maintenance or to keep up the planned reload times for the other 2 spare torpedos.... And not to mention that the crew would now have almost no place at all to live during a 2-week patrol.

2 reloads is so to speak the realistic thing.... 3 reloads is for a 2-day torp-ex training mission in the baltic.