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Jonathan
12-06-07, 10:03 PM
If after you sunk a ship, whether merchant or warship or neutral or whatever, survivors floated in the water and got into lifeboats, would you let them go on there merry way or kill them all? This is just a question that I was wondering about.

Are we all light-hearted Kaleuns bent on the destruction of property and not people, or, does a deeper, darker vein run through us all?

:down: or :up:

Sledgehammer427
12-06-07, 10:18 PM
sinking ships is good, killing people was not in the transcript.

leave a contact report and hold fast to the rail to keep from sinking the rescue ship

killing bad nono :down:
leaving a report (which i dont do from the lack of "survivors" i use my imaginatio-nation and think liek i did) and letting them live :up:

Mush Martin
12-06-07, 10:23 PM
Give them food water such medical care as can be spared
and a compass and bearing to the nearest headland.
:|\\

d@rk51d3
12-06-07, 10:25 PM
Give them food water such medical care as can be spared
and a compass and bearing to the nearest headland.
:|\\


Ditto.

Jonathan
12-06-07, 10:26 PM
Give them food water such medical care as can be spared
and a compass and bearing to the nearest headland.
:|\\

Man...I would want to be sunk by you guys!

Mush Martin
12-06-07, 10:27 PM
I kind of like the old rules where we warned them off the ship first
Prior to sinking it.
it gave a nobility to the profession that has been darkened by
a century of military expediencies.
M

Blacklight
12-06-07, 10:33 PM
This is all about stopping the war marterials from getting into hands that could use them against us, not about cold blooded murder.

Mush Martin
12-06-07, 11:09 PM
Give them food water such medical care as can be spared
and a compass and bearing to the nearest headland.
:|\\
Man...I would want to be sunk by you guys!

Have you seen my boat in action theres likely very
few survivors on the average day this is kind of an
acedemic discussion for me...............:rotfl:

GoldenRivet
12-06-07, 11:29 PM
no need to add insult to injury... let them go

i dont gun down life rafts in the same sense that i dont straffe parachutes.

Jonathan
12-06-07, 11:34 PM
no need to add insult to injury... let them go

i dont gun down life rafts in the same sense that i dont straffe parachutes.

GoldenRivet, you are the consumate professional. I salute you :rock:

_Seth_
12-06-07, 11:52 PM
Give them food water such medical care as can be spared
and a compass and bearing to the nearest headland.
:|\\

Ditto.

:yep::up: IMHO, we would all be sailors, upon the same sea...The codex of the sea remains, war or no war... :up: *just my 2 cents*

GoldenRivet
12-07-07, 12:10 AM
no need to add insult to injury... let them go

i dont gun down life rafts in the same sense that i dont straffe parachutes.
GoldenRivet, you are the consumate professional. I salute you :rock:

Danke Herr kaleun :up:

Fenris_Wolf
12-07-07, 03:09 AM
I'd let em live in most situations, even radio their position or aid their survival in some way not hazardous for my boat. But if these people do not deserve to be spared, e.g., troops of a unchivalrous and selfish nation that doesn't mind destroying property of and killing innocent and unarmed civilians to pursue it's goals, it'll be my pleasure to make sure enough blood is spilt to attract every shark and carnivore of the sea within 100 miles. :D

The Butcher
12-07-07, 06:30 AM
Like the Kaleuns before I would let them live and give them what aid I could. Many more seamen would have lived if it were not for the desparation to sink submarines. Too many were being lost to attacks while rendering aid that the practice was forbidden.

mrbeast
12-07-07, 07:57 AM
Survivors in the water pose no threat so I would let them go. :yep:

Captain Nemo
12-07-07, 09:58 AM
I'm with most others on this and would provide as much assistance to survivors as I could within the contraints of the situation. Although it does remind me of that line in the film Apocalypse Now when Captain Willard said "We cut 'em in half with a machine gun and give 'em a Band-Aid. It was a lie."

Nemo

Oberon
12-07-07, 10:31 AM
It's odd that this question has come up as I was doing some background history on the real life of my current boat, the U-35, and found this site:

http://www.u-35.com/

U-35 allowed the first British ship it encountered in the North Atlantic, the fishing trawler ALVIS (http://www.u-35.com/ALVIS/), to pass on 18 September 1939, after realizing that the thirteen man crew could never have reached land in the available lifeboat; in return, the British captain warned U-35 that the Royal Navy aircraft carrier Ark Royal was in the general area


Later that day, U-35 came upon a group of three trawlers. It sank the ARLITA (http://www.u-35.com/ARLITA/), a British fishing trawler of 326t, and the LORD MINTO (http://www.u-35.com/LORDMINTO/), a British fishing trawler of 295t, by gunfire WNW of St Kilda, west of the Outer Hebrides, sparing the third trawler, NANCY HAGUE (http://www.u-35.com/NANCYHAGUE/), to carry home the crews of all three.



On 03 October 1939, U-35 sighted the Britain-bound DIAMANTIS, a Greek steamer of 4990t, 40 miles west of Scillies off Lands End. U-35 surfaced in bad weather and warned those aboard that their ship was about to be sunk. As the sea was rough and unsuitable for normal lifeboat operations, the crew of 28 men were taken aboard U-35.
In the late afternoon of October 4th, after 30 to 35 hours on board, the Greeks were landed in Dingle Bay, in neutral Ireland, on a beach lined by local people. U-35 crew member Walter Kalabuch (http://www.u-35.com/crew/kalabuch.htm) rowed the Greeks, several at a time, from the U-boat to the shore (He was awarded the Iron Cross, second class, for this on 12 October 1939). When all were ashore U-35 left slowly on the surface, watched by onlookers until it disappeared into the fog.


I'd like to think I am similar in these respects to the real U-35, I always linger around sinking sites (of unescorted vessels) to offer the survivors provisions and directions. It may be war, but there's no need to stoop to barbaric levels.

Cap'n Spanky
12-07-07, 12:52 PM
Survivors in the water pose no threat so I would let them go. :yep:

Agreed...

Jonathan
12-07-07, 12:57 PM
I guess that we are a high class group of Kaleuns around here...well, except for me. I said kill them all...maybe it has something to do with bloodlust or the old addage "that dead men tell no tales."

I can the humanity in letting them live, and if placed in such a situation, that is probably what I would do.

candy2500
12-07-07, 03:28 PM
i would let them go on there mary way.

STEED
12-07-07, 03:41 PM
Let them go and they face death by drowning, starvation, shark attack the list goes on. ;)

sasquatch
12-07-07, 03:47 PM
German crews frequently helped out the remaining survivors of ships that they sunk. They originally used radios to contact the ship and tell them to evacuate before they sunk it, but this put the u-boat crews at too great a risk.

Mush Martin
12-07-07, 05:11 PM
Let them go and they face death by drowning, starvation, shark attack the list goes on. ;)

Wow thats your real address under your avatar isnt it?:|\\

Brag
12-07-07, 05:57 PM
War is bad enough without comiting murder. 'nuff said.

U49
12-08-07, 02:19 AM
I'm simulating a naval submarine war environment.

If you want to simulate murder you better get yourself something like "hitman" or "GTA".

One criminal was enough:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz-Wilhelm_Eck

Sailor Steve
12-08-07, 12:16 PM
Let them go and they face death by drowning, starvation, shark attack the list goes on. ;)
At least that way they have some chance. After you mercilessly gun them down they have none.

I'm here to stop enemy shipping. After that, I'll help the survivors if I can.

I enjoy the story of the WWI light cruiser SMS Emden. They would capture British ships, use the colliers to resupply their own ship, take what they needed, leave one ship to carry the survivors to safety, and let them go.

The reports were full of British sailors' statements to the gentlemanliness and kindness of captain von Muller.
http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/emden.html

Jimbuna
12-08-07, 04:26 PM
Give them a lifeboat, rations and a compass, then point them in the direction of the nearest land :arrgh!:

http://www.itsnature.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfmoon.jpg

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