Patch 1.4 - Game will not load.

[Meerkat154]

I just installed 1.4 and when starting to game nothing happens. However in task manager I can see the process running but the game never loads.
Anyone else seen this? Ijust upgraded video cards so not sure if I need to re-install.
Thanks,
Kat

[Shyzar]

What I would do is reinstall. But it could be a different problem. Also, did you reboot after installation and patching, that could cause a problem.

[El-Fish]

Maybe try deleting or renaming the movies (intro, logo) in the data/movies folder.

Good luck with it.

[Overboard]

What I would do is reinstall. But it could be a different problem. Also, did you reboot after installation and patching, that could cause a problem.

TBH.. with you what dose rebooting have to do with anything,? If he were to do anything at all after installing a game of that size he should defrag the hdd,....Have you ever looked at your hdd after installing any thing, whare and when do you think most of the (RED) fragments and mis-placed files come from?..(let me guess they come from uninstalling things Right)...Wrong!!, most fragments come from install, check it out for your self". :yep:

Not defraging your hdd after install can lead to any number of problems.. from stuttering to slow fps ect.

[Propy]

What I would do is reinstall. But it could be a different problem. Also, did you reboot after installation and patching, that could cause a problem.

TBH.. with you what dose rebooting have to do with anything,? If he were to do anything at all after installing a game of that size he should defrag the hdd,....Have you ever looked at your hdd after installing any thing, whare and when do you think most of the (RED) fragments and mis-placed files come from?..(let me guess they come from uninstalling things Right)...Wrong!!, most fragments come from install, check it out for your self". :yep:

Not defraging your hdd after install can lead to any number of problems.. from stuttering to slow fps ect.

you are right...if you have a really old hdd. Today you rearley need to defrag a harddrive. The small, small affect it has is to small to be worth the amount of time it takes. But I agree that it could affect game performance, although not that much today. It should not affect the startup of a game.

and you dont have to restart the computer after patching...I didnt at it worked right away. If I had the same problem as Meerkat154 I whould try reinstalling and see if it starts without a patch, then adding the patch that worked last time, see if that works and finelly I whould try the 1.4 patch.

[Overboard]

What I would do is reinstall. But it could be a different problem. Also, did you reboot after installation and patching, that could cause a problem.

TBH.. with you what dose rebooting have to do with anything,? If he were to do anything at all after installing a game of that size he should defrag the hdd,....Have you ever looked at your hdd after installing any thing, whare and when do you think most of the (RED) fragments and mis-placed files come from?..(let me guess they come from uninstalling things Right)...Wrong!!, most fragments come from install, check it out for your self". :yep:

Not defraging your hdd after install can lead to any number of problems.. from stuttering to slow fps ect.

you are right...if you have a really old hdd. Today you rearley need to defrag a harddrive. The small, small affect it has is to small to be worth the amount of time it takes. But I agree that it could affect game performance, although not that much today. It should not affect the startup of a game.

and you dont have to restart the computer after patching...I didnt at it worked right away. If I had the same problem as Meerkat154 I whould try reinstalling and see if it starts without a patch, then adding the patch that worked last time, see if that works and finelly I whould try the 1.4 patch.

Hi Propy" Its realy not a matter of how old your hdd is,.. Its more of where the files are on your hdd.
Most poeple today run NTFS not fat-32 and as a side note windows does'nt put the files that you download (or install) in the correct place,.. ie it puts them anywhare it wants from front to back on your hdd.
Its up to you the user to make sure there put in the right place..(Disk Defrag).

The bigger the files the more wide spread they will become.
And the longer it takes for your computor to find them... "hence longer load times,
Studdering, pauseing, low fps, glitches, not pulling textures, ect. ect.

games today are larger than we have ever seen before..Including demos,
so thers more fragments, best to be safe than sorry.

[Propy]

Yes I know that...I work with computers. But anyway what I meant was that today when hdd are so big 750gibi and more then the defrag takes a huge amount of time and it gives back so little. Today games are more dependent on memory and graohics rather than hdd speed...so what I meant was that its not wrong to do it but it doesnt give you that much...and that today hdds are faster than before and one of the reasons to defrag is to help the hdd to read faster by stacking data that belongs togheter close to each other

...I know that people have different views on defrag...since it doesnt harm anyone its up each person...

...or as you put it "best to be safe than sorry" :D

[Meerkat154]

What I would do is reinstall. But it could be a different problem. Also, did you reboot after installation and patching, that could cause a problem.

Still no go - uninstalled, deleted SH4 savegames folder and re-installed. I will re-install again and run 1.3 patch to see if 1.4 specifically break something with my setup.
Thanks
Meerkat

[seafarer]

What I would do is reinstall. But it could be a different problem. Also, did you reboot after installation and patching, that could cause a problem.

Still no go - uninstalled, deleted SH4 savegames folder and re-installed. I will re-install again and run 1.3 patch to see if 1.4 specifically break something with my setup.
Thanks
Meerkat

Since you are using Vista, did you just install in the default programs directory? If so, all your patch writes will be in the hidden SHIV directory in the hidden AppData directory in your user space. You will want to delete that directory in AppData before you reinstall. I'd recommend just installing SH4 in a directory of your choice - anywhere other then the default programs directory. That way UAC won't force the patches to write to the hidden AppData area, but they will be applied as intended directly onto the program folder itself.

[-Pv-]

Defragging is over-rated. Although a good thing to do occastionally, it's not the reason his game does not run at all. Considering he's on Vista, probably a relatively new HD, NTFS, probably hasn't filled the drive, fragmentation is way low on the fault tree.
-Pv-