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waste gate
12-01-07, 03:51 PM
Clinton Calm in Hostage Crisis

From 436 miles away? How did she do it? What an amazing sence of clarity under crisis.

"It affected me not only because they were my staff members and volunteers, but as a mother, it was just a horrible sense of bewilderment, confusion, outrage, frustration, anger, everything at the same time," Clinton said.

At the same time, the woman striving to move from former first lady to the first female president was eager to convey that she knew the traditional lines of command and control in a crisis, even if the events inside the storefront on North Main Street were far short of a world calamity.

blue3golf
12-01-07, 04:05 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The WosMan
12-01-07, 04:14 PM
I'll tell you how she stayed calm, because she is a cold-hearted b!#*h.

STEED
12-01-07, 06:20 PM
Isn't she a communist? :hmm:

waste gate
12-01-07, 06:24 PM
Isn't she a communist? :hmm:

That is being kind. In the mold of most of Europe.

kiwi_2005
12-01-07, 06:25 PM
Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p

waste gate
12-01-07, 06:35 PM
Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p

It has nothing to do with the color of her hair.

Hillary Had Bouts of Depression As First Lady

More to follow. http://in.news.yahoo.com/070602/139/6gkoj.html
Does the world really want someone who is depressed to have access to the destruction of humanity?

If she doesn't feel well about herself one day .................. we all die.

STEED
12-01-07, 06:40 PM
Isn't she a communist? :hmm:

That is being kind. In the mold of most of Europe.


:up: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Don't panic guy's America will never at the moment vote a women in to the White House let alone another Clinton. ;)

waste gate
12-01-07, 06:47 PM
Don't panic guy's America will never at the moment vote a women in to the White House let alone another Clinton. ;)


Clinton to Couric: 'It will be me'
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7B037CA8DC-6B09-4584-B4DB-4861D49BFA30%7D&siteid=rss

STEED
12-01-07, 07:06 PM
Clinton to Couric: 'It will be me'
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7B037CA8DC-6B09-4584-B4DB-4861D49BFA30%7D&siteid=rss

Well that is not good, but the big race as yet to come.

PLAN B
Move to England if all else fails. ;)

AVGWarhawk
12-01-07, 09:20 PM
Hillary is about as warm and loving as an iceberg. Of course she did not give a hoot. This was just some good free press time and how she stands up in a time of crisis. Personally, she acted poorly and responded poorly in the interviews. What she should have done was call the office and talked to the guy. But hey, the media complains she does not talk to them so this guy does not even make the list, even if it concerns a pipe bomb and few human beings being held hostage with it. Nice job Hillary.....good luck when there is a real crisis of greater magnitude. :down:

RamRod
12-01-07, 09:38 PM
Hey, if Bush hasn't managed to start WWIII what makes you think Hillary would be anymore successful? I think President Hillary will do a fine job in straightening out this country!

RamRod
12-01-07, 10:09 PM
Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p

It has nothing to do with the color of her hair.

Hillary Had Bouts of Depression As First Lady

More to follow. http://in.news.yahoo.com/070602/139/6gkoj.html
Does the world really want someone who is depressed to have access to the destruction of humanity?

If she doesn't feel well about herself one day .................. we all die.


Wow! Who could image someone going through a rough patch in their marriage being diagnosed as clinically depressed? What does that say about the alcoholic president we currently have? Will he go on a binge and nuke India on behalf of Musharraf? No, of course not. Please try to be at least a little realistic.

NavySpy
12-01-07, 10:15 PM
Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p

It has nothing to do with the color of her hair.

Hillary Had Bouts of Depression As First Lady

More to follow. http://in.news.yahoo.com/070602/139/6gkoj.html
Does the world really want someone who is depressed to have access to the destruction of humanity?

If she doesn't feel well about herself one day .................. we all die.

As a sailor in the greatest Navy known to man, I'm definately no big fan of Hillary Clinton, but c'mon. You're going to draw an opinion about someone from some inferences someone else made that were not based on any kind of solid evidence and ignore the rest the rest of the article. Anyone going through those things is going to get depressed, does not mean she's clinically depressed. Since when have you become a psyciatrist? Here's an idea that we employ in the Navy: "Get a clue". I'm tired of everyone bashing everyone else. This whole campaign has been about "I'm the best candidate cause I'm not as bad that other guy." You wanna talk about depression? Then read this book: "Lincoln's Melancholy: How Depression Challenged a President and Fueled His Greatness". Point is, depression has nothing to do with anything.

Sea Demon
12-01-07, 10:22 PM
Isn't she a communist? :hmm:
That is being kind. In the mold of most of Europe.

:up: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Don't panic guy's America will never at the moment vote a women in to the White House let alone another Clinton. ;)

If we could get something in the mold of a Thatcher over here, I wouldn't mind a woman in the Oval office. Hillary has too much baggage, is not as smart and independant as many give her credit for, and has the ideology of the nanny state at her core. And like John Kerry, she doesn't know where she stands on issues until she puts her finger into the wind.

Sea Demon
12-01-07, 10:25 PM
Hey, if Bush hasn't managed to start WWIII what makes you think Hillary would be anymore successful? I think President Hillary will do a fine job in straightening out this country!
How so? Do you know where she stands on any issue where she hasn't turned the other direction when convenient?

RamRod
12-01-07, 10:50 PM
How so? Do you know where she stands on any issue where she hasn't turned the other direction when convenient?

The only turns I'm aware of are her stance on Iraq and a softening of her immigration platform. One has to be naive to think the ideas and commitments of ANY politician are carved in stone. Everything on Capital Hill is negotiable. Look how Republicans has separated themselves from President Bush and his low approval ratings. I think you'll find that the only ones that haven’t are the ones whose seats are safe in the next election. One should expect a candidate to be flexible in light of new data. To not be can get our country caught in an inextricable quagmire. Wait, I misspelled quagmire… I-R-A-Q. There… that’s better.

It is one thing to stand by your principles. It is another to not see different viewpoints on extremely complicated issues like Iraq and immigration.

Sea Demon
12-01-07, 11:29 PM
The only turns I'm aware of are her stance on Iraq and a softening of her immigration platform. One has to be naive to think the ideas and commitments of ANY politician are carved in stone. Everything on Capital Hill is negotiable. Look how Republicans has separated themselves from President Bush and his low approval ratings. I think you'll find that the only ones that haven’t are the ones whose seats are safe in the next election. One should expect a candidate to be flexible in light of new data. To not be can get our country caught in an inextricable quagmire. Wait, I misspelled quagmire… I-R-A-Q. There… that’s better.

It is one thing to stand by your principles. It is another to not see different viewpoints on extremely complicated issues like Iraq and immigration.

Well, there is her stance on abortion, specifically parental notifications that she flipped on. She has gone back and forth on NAFTA, and was less than definitive when dealing with the issue of information extraction techniques used on terrorist prisoners. In addition she has changed her mind when the heat was on regarding Guantanamo Bay itself. These are just a few of the other ones I remember in addition to the Iraq war vote, and her immigration flops. But it's not just the flip-flopping. What about all the rotten fundraisers that she has accrued? Many Chinese? Many suspicious Chinese? You know, Chinese dishwashers donating hundreds of thousands of dollars? Does that not cause you any concern whatsoever?

RamRod
12-02-07, 12:43 AM
I know Bill pushed NAFTA as did his predecessor, and Hillary has come out saying it should be reviewed. I don’t know that she ever had a pro-NAFTA stance other than supporting her husband. I think NAFTA does need our attention.
As for abortion, I’ve never known her stance to be other than pro-choice. On torture she advocates following the Geneva Convention but does not condemn questionable techniques like waterboarding. Is that a surprise? From what I’ve seen John McCain is the only candidate to outright denounce torture. The debated technique is waterboarding. I’m sure if you spelled out all of the things one could or could not use for interrogation you would get a more definitive response. Ask a vague question, get a vague answer.
On Guantanamo, I’m not aware of any stance change. Perhaps you could be more specific.
On campaign fundraising, I view it as the same mudslinging the GOP did during the last Clinton campaign. The fact is, accusations flew but nothing could be substantiated. It would greatly disturb me if Hillary was selling out to the Chinese and as so would not receive my vote. But, aside from right-wing accusations there has been no evidence. Another fact that you are missing is special interest groups are going to find a way to contribute to any horse they think might win the race. The Chinese were suspected of doing the same thing on the other side of the table. http://hsgac.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&Affiliation=C&PressRelease_id=318&Month=4&Year=2003 (http://hsgac.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&Affiliation=C&PressRelease_id=318&Month=4&Year=2003)
But no action because of no real evidence. So who is to say what is real and what is rhetoric? I’d like to thing our overwhelmingly right-wing justice system would happily snap the cuffs on Hillary is she were really doing anything illegal.
By the way, the delay in your response tells me you actually research and give thought to your argument. That is more than a lot of people do and I appreciate it!

Sea Demon
12-02-07, 12:58 AM
Perhaps you could be more specific.

I unfortunately will have to yield at this time. This is just stuff I remember. And I didn't actually link to anything, so I can't really specify. I guess, I'll just have to agree to disagree on this with you. You think she would do fine as President. I think she would not be a good choice for the country. I'll just have to let that stand.

Kapitan_Phillips
12-02-07, 03:49 AM
If we could get something in the mold of a Thatcher over here, I wouldn't mind a woman in the Oval office.

Are you nuts?

Kipparikalle
12-02-07, 09:50 AM
Suddenly, living in Finland isn't so bad after all ;)

STEED
12-02-07, 11:40 AM
If we could get something in the mold of a Thatcher over here, I wouldn't mind a woman in the Oval office.

Are you nuts?

Thatcher was better than Blair that's for sure. :p

Sea Demon
12-02-07, 04:27 PM
If we could get something in the mold of a Thatcher over here, I wouldn't mind a woman in the Oval office.

Are you nuts?

Thatcher was better than Blair that's for sure. :p

And would be much better than a Hillary Clinton IMO.

TteFAboB
12-03-07, 06:06 AM
If we could get something in the mold of a Thatcher over here, I wouldn't mind a woman in the Oval office.

Are you nuts?

Thatcher was better than Blair that's for sure. :p

And would be much better than a Hillary Clinton IMO.

Who wouldn't?

SUBMAN1
12-03-07, 10:42 AM
All I have to say is: Doctor's Convention!

-S



A Japanese doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have him out looking for work in six weeks."


A German doctor says, "That is nothing. We can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him out looking for work in four weeks."


A British doctor says, "In my country medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have both of them out looking for work in two weeks."

The American doctor, not to be outdone, interjected, "You guys are way behind. We are about to take a woman with no brains, send her to Washington where she will become President, and then half the country will be out looking for work."

STEED
12-03-07, 10:50 AM
If we could get something in the mold of a Thatcher over here, I wouldn't mind a woman in the Oval office.

Are you nuts?

Thatcher was better than Blair that's for sure. :p

And would be much better than a Hillary Clinton IMO.

And in the blue corner Margret Thatcher and in the red corner Hillary Clinton, ding ding round one.