View Full Version : good u.s. sub movies
VonHammer
11-29-07, 04:17 PM
any one know any good movies that deal with the u.s. sub fleet?
elanaiba
11-29-07, 04:19 PM
As in "Hollywood movies" or documentaries?
VonHammer
11-29-07, 04:34 PM
preferably hollywood, but ill settle for a documentary
WWII - there are a number of them (black and white) be easier to type in WWII Submarine movies in amazon - they are all cheap generally under 12 dollars US. One of my favroites is "Operation Petticoat" with Cary Grant. Cold War - try Ice Station Zebra - pretty good overall. Also try the BEDFORD Incident with Richard Whidmark - really good starts slow but builds nicely. Other than that the standard fare of Red October and the ultimate BS of CRIMSON Turd (Tide) lol. (Comex rant)K-19 is actually better than CRIMSON TURD - well actually VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA is better than CRIMSON TURD. If I ever had a Sonar Sup say "Conn - Sonar, Sonar - Conn, AKULA HUNTER KILLER B-345" I would choke him to death on his mike cord. Idiot. I would also microwave the dog for the hell of it and freeze all the JO's pillows. Man that movie is just plain one of the idiotic boomer fag flicks out there :damn: (finex rant) :dead:
howler93
11-29-07, 05:39 PM
Run Silent Run Deep isn't bad :yep:
I wish someone would make a modern version about US subs in the pacific during WWII...there are just so many good stories that need telling! I'd like to see them make one about the USS Wahoo...Not gonna' hold my breath though.
Happy viewing,
Howler :arrgh!:
brandtryan
11-29-07, 05:57 PM
The Enemy Below
Pleasantly surprised with this one--though it's about a US Destroyer, attacking U-boats. Lots of cat and mouse--a real classic.
mrbeast
11-29-07, 06:34 PM
I think a remake of Run Silent Run Deep would be good except this time it should stick more closely to the book. IIRC the film was only very loosely based on Beach's book....pretty much the title and thats it! :D
But seriously....they could do a very good job with the effects available now, make it into an American Das Boot, plenty of gritty action and no punches pulled. Maybe somebody like Ridley Scott to direct?
VonHammer
11-29-07, 06:48 PM
I think a remake of Run Silent Run Deep would be good except this time it should stick more closely to the book. IIRC the film was only very loosely based on Beach's book....pretty much the title and thats it! :D
But seriously....they could do a very good job with the effects available now, make it into an American Das Boot, plenty of gritty action and no punches pulled. Maybe somebody like Ridley Scott to direct?
this helps add to my xmas list...
anout the movie remake- who would write it? rember there is a strike on...
SteamWake
11-29-07, 10:15 PM
Run silent run deep gets my vote.
Enemy below well was VERY hollywood.
VonHammer
11-30-07, 01:12 AM
Down Periscope!!!
heh.
seen it a bunch of times. i think for when i start a new career in sh4, i might just put the name Tom Dodge in;)
Down Periscope!!!
heh.
seen it a bunch of times. i think for when i start a new career in sh4, i might just put the name Tom Dodge in;)
Now, call me a prude if you want, but I don't think it's good policy for the Navy to hand over a billion-dollar piece of equipment to a man who has "Welcome Aboard" tattooed on his penis. :nope:
:rotfl:
Roger Dodger
11-30-07, 04:24 AM
Down Periscope!!!
heh.
seen it a bunch of times. i think for when i start a new career in sh4, i might just put the name Tom Dodge in;)
Now, call me a prude if you want, but I don't think it's good policy for the Navy to hand over a billion-dollar piece of equipment to a man who has "Welcome Aboard" tattooed on his penis. :nope:
:rotfl:
Funny, that's what the admiral said. :rock:
My all time favorite is still 'Run Silent, Run Deep'. I always thought it was one of Clark Gable's best flicks.
A couple of more that I haven't seen for quite awhile are 'Up Periscope' and 'Torpedo Run'.
For the cold war, there's 'Hell and High Water'. Betcha never heard of that one. :smug: I still remembered several scenes from it when I saw it on its original release, so I just had to buy it when it bacame available a few months ago. Pretty hokey nowadays, but still watchable (well, barely).
Sound effects and voices are used in this sim from both 'Below' and 'U-571', and several others.
Good hunting!
barracuda
11-30-07, 04:57 AM
Destination Tokyo
Canonicus
11-30-07, 06:42 AM
I recommend.....Operation Pacific.....
Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
If not a seminal World War II submarine picture, then Operation Pacific is at least an entertaining one. John Wayne stars as "Duke" Gifford, first officer of the submarine Thunderfish. Patricia Neal is Duke's ex-wife, and when they meet again after four years, the couple tries to recapture "that old zing." Complications arise when Duke goes on a mission with dud torpedoes, and his best friend's younger brother goes after Neal. Fans will be pleased with Wayne's role, as the Gifford character is one of Wayne's simplest, but most honest performances. Wayne regulars Ward Bond and Jack Pennick are on hand as well; Bond plays sub captain "Pop" Perry, and Pennick the sub's Chief. The scene in which Pop tells his crew to "Take 'er down!" came from real life; a sub skipper uttered the famous command during a desperate surface action. --Mark Savary
Also:
Torpedo Run - Glenn Ford, Ernest Borgnine
Crash Dive - Dana Andrews, Tyron Powers
Torpedo Alley - ??
Assult on a Queen - Sinatra (Salvaged U-boat for a robbery at sea)
Hellcats of the Navy - Ronald and Nancy Regan.
Hell and High Water - Richard Widmark
Gray lady Down - Charlton Heston
Submarine Command - William Holden, William Bendix
John Channing
11-30-07, 11:46 AM
Not about US Subs (British) but you should check out "We dive at dawn".
It has one of the best attack sequences I have seen in a movie.
JCC
candy2500
11-30-07, 12:03 PM
yes, Destination Tokyo is good
SteamWake
11-30-07, 01:28 PM
While not a sub flick "The compas Rose" is good.
While not a sub flick "The compas Rose" is good.
Do you mean the Cruel Sea? maybe released under two names. the book is a classic!
mrbeast
11-30-07, 04:50 PM
While not a sub flick "The compas Rose" is good.
Do you mean the Cruel Sea? maybe released under two names. the book is a classic!
I think it was released in the US under the title 'Compas Rose'.
BTW it is a classic, quite hard hitting too the scene where the skipper has to DC a U boat in a sea full of survivors bobbing in their life jackets is very powerful.
Now you know what people mean when they say 'worse things happen at sea'.
Also 'In Which We Serve' starring Noel Coward is quite good. Not sure if it has subs in it though, but similar to Cruel Sea.
unfortunately, Run Silent, Run Deep, is the only movie about US subs worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell. (If thats the one with Clak Gable and Bungo Pete). There is another one called Torpedo Run but I dont remember much about it.For some reason WWII submarine warfare has recieved little attention from movie makers, which is too bad. Joe S
mrbeast
11-30-07, 05:35 PM
unfortunately, Run Silent, Run Deep, is the only movie about US subs worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell. (If thats the one with Clak Gable and Bungo Pete). There is another one called Torpedo Run but I dont remember much about it.For some reason WWII submarine warfare has recieved little attention from movie makers, which is too bad. Joe S
Well if the only really good sub film they ever make is Das Boot then I could live with that. But I'm endlessly miystified why, when they decidedto make a new sub film they chose to make a turkey like U571 and not one about the exploits of USN subs in the Pacific. :hmm: :nope:
Ducimus
11-30-07, 07:23 PM
They have to have a real drama. Something. A story people know of. Theres LOTS to choose from, but i think most American's dont even know their own countries history. People ive talked to, thier knowledge level can be summed up as such:
"Yeah there was this redcoat thingy, and then there was the civil war (you know where the north and the south shot at each other?) then we went to war against the nazi's, then there was vietnam, and now iraq!"
Hollywood uses what people know or heard of, to make money. If they don't think the story will sell (not good, people dont know about it, etc), they wont do it.
I think EVENTUALLY they'll get around to it - when they run out of other half baked ideas. This may take them awhile, their full of half baked ideas for a movie.
Ducimus
11-30-07, 07:31 PM
Was just thinking, theres so much movie material in the PTO.
Looking at my own sig. The Tautog.
They could start the movie with the pearl harbor attack, make it a 3 hour bladder burster with lots of depth charging, torpedo blasting drama as she goes through the war, and end it Saving private ryan style with some old vets watching their boat meet the scrappers torch years later. edit: or start it with the scrappers torch, and then flashback like SPR.
yes, Destination Tokyo is good
Yes...I agree. And,"Mush Morton" was technical advisor on the set.
SteamWake
11-30-07, 08:54 PM
While not a sub flick "The compas Rose" is good.
Do you mean the Cruel Sea? maybe released under two names. the book is a classic!
I think it was released in the US under the title 'Compas Rose'.
BTW it is a classic, quite hard hitting too the scene where the skipper has to DC a U boat in a sea full of survivors bobbing in their life jackets is very powerful.
Now you know what people mean when they say 'worse things happen at sea'.
Also 'In Which We Serve' starring Noel Coward is quite good. Not sure if it has subs in it though, but similar to Cruel Sea.
Yes my bad. The movie is actually "The cruel sea" but still a good view... anyone know if this is still under copy protection ?
Rather copyright.
unfortunately, Run Silent, Run Deep, is the only movie about US subs worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell. (If thats the one with Clak Gable and Bungo Pete). There is another one called Torpedo Run but I dont remember much about it.For some reason WWII submarine warfare has recieved little attention from movie makers, which is too bad. Joe S
I agree that RSRD is my favorite (I saw it in the theater and as a 12 year old, I had nightmares about Tab Hunter being crushed by a torpedo), however Ned Beach hated what they did to his novel. All have something to offer. The scenes of fire and WSRT's on Crimson Tide and flooding on Gray Lady Down are very realistic. Operation Pacific is iconic of the entire US submarine war contribution.
WSRT= Wepons Systems Readiness Test
VonHammer
12-01-07, 01:07 PM
ok ill have to add a few of those to my list. what about books? i read alot also strickly military thrillers. ive read tom clancy,web griffin, dale brown and stephn coonts.
mrbeast
12-01-07, 04:53 PM
ok ill have to add a few of those to my list. what about books? i read alot also strickly military thrillers. ive read tom clancy,web griffin, dale brown and stephn coonts.
Run Silent Run Deep. By Edward L. Beach
Das Boot. By Lothar-Gunthar Buchheim
Iron Coffins. By Herbert Werner
War In The Boats. By William J. Ruhe
Read all of those and can recomend them. Iron Coffins and War In The Boats are acounts of RL. Das Boot and Iron Coffins are obviously about U Boats but are still a good read. War In The Boats has some good stuff about S class boats in it and also bescribes some of the eccentric habits of some of the skippers too. Run Silent, Run Deep is better than the film of the same name.
AVGWarhawk
12-01-07, 05:22 PM
Crash Dive is not to bad. It turns into more of a love story but it has some great shots of the real deal.
VonHammer
12-01-07, 11:54 PM
Run Silent Run Deep. By Edward L. Beach
Das Boot. By Lothar-Gunthar Buchheim
Iron Coffins. By Herbert Werner
War In The Boats. By William J. Ruhe
ill have to check those out. the last book i read was Stephn Colbert's I AM AMERICA AND SO CAN YOU!, Which i would highly recomend. but ill add those to my list.
I watched Down Periscope with a WWII subvet and he loved it! He said that it was actually a pretty good depiction of a Balao Fleet boat and that Kelsy Grahmer (sp?) did a good portrayal of a non-Regular Navy Skipper. The seen with the tanker was "a bit" over the top though.
Torplexed
12-02-07, 01:28 AM
Sadly there has only been one modern movie about US submarines in WW2 and that was David Twohy's dismal Below. (2002)
The movie opens as a naval thriller, complete with the necessary sequences of the US sub being hunted by German escorts; (it's set in the Atlantic oddly enough) the dropping of depth charges; the intense moments as crewmen wait for the charges to explode; and some excellent CGI effects. Without much hint as to what’s about to happen, the film suddenly degenerates into a ghost story, with some vengeful spirit freaking out and in some cases taking out the sub’s crew, including its jittery C.O. and some shipwrecked British passengers. At this point the movie blows credibility faster than a sub blows it's ballast tanks.
As to the ghost story — well, if you aren’t able to guess the twist at the end, then you haven’t been watching nearly enough “Twilight Zone” episodes. And did I mention that the pacing and plotting is horrible? Or that the film is as scary as taking a nap?:down:
Yep. saw that one. The guy who played the COB did a great job! Started great--ended like a lack-luster Hollywood Turd.
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