1.4 released

[TDK1044]

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/9151054216

Changes:


Rendering distance increased to 20km, with appropriate improvement for visual sensors capabilities
Dynamic loading of game units has been implemented, considerably improving loading times
Improvements to Water rendering
Improvements for enemy ships detection of steam torpedoes
Damage taken by hulls submarine is shown in the damage interface
Entries in Captain’s Log are now limited for better performance
Screenshot names now contain the date they were taken on
End patrol ports are now displayed on the map
Objectives on the navigation now change color when completedFixes:


Destroyer/Submarine collisions always leading to the destroyer being sunk
Fix the periscope animation problem
Save & Load issues with the submarine crew
Magnetic/Contact Detonator switch now working properly
Improper display of the TBT interface for widescreen resolutions
Loss of torpedo aiming track when crossing the International Date Line
Deck gun Metric/Imperial system issues
Repeating objectives bug
Correct date when loading a save from career

[ReallyDedPoet]

Very nice :yep::up:

d\l now:rock:It will be a late night tonight.


RDP

[Brausepaul]

Well, Ubi...the next few days decide whether to buy the add on or not. *closeshatch*

[tomoose]

Can't access that link from the office!!
Is there a "list of fixes"?

[AVGWarhawk]

Now it is offical.

[Cap'n Spanky]

Damn, and I'm at work!!

[TDK1044]

Can't access that link from the office!!
Is there a "list of fixes"?

I edited my original post to include the fixes and changes.

[Bill Nichols]

Now we find out how many mods it breaks :-?

[rrmelend]

Sweet, thanks fo the heads up.

[fvd]

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know what effect this patch will have on mod's like Trigger_Maru and ROW?
In other words, how compatible is this?

Thanks and regards,
fvd

[AVGWarhawk]

Now we find out how many mods it breaks :-?

Looking at the fixes, I would say not many.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know what effect this patch will have on mod's like Trigger_Maru and ROW?
In other words, how compatible is this?

Thanks and regards,
fvd
Like 1.3, we will find out once the modders have a chance to look at the changes, etc.


RDP

[Digital_Trucker]

Yay! It's here:up:

Now we find out how many mods it breaks :-?

Boo! I don't wanna think about it:o . Seriously, I guess it's time to unload all the mods, make a copy of the game folder, install the patch and compare every file from the patched game to every file of the 1.3 vanilla game. Shouldn't take more than 15 minutes or so:arrgh!: Or, if we're really lucky, there might be a list of changed files that we could get our hands on?

[Fincuan]

OOhh yeah... Gonna be a really long night. Luckily I don't have to go to work until 7 am(it's now 8 pm) :)

[CodyLang]

Wonder if i'll have to start a new campaign,guess i'll have to see,if anybody knows,hollar! hehe,other then that...Woot Woot!.

[Hitman]

Changes:

Rendering distance increased to 20km, with appropriate improvement for visual sensors capabilities
Dynamic loading of game units has been implemented, considerably improving loading times
Improvements to Water rendering
Improvements for enemy ships detection of steam torpedoes
Damage taken by hulls submarine is shown in the damage interface
Entries in Captain’s Log are now limited for better performance
Screenshot names now contain the date they were taken on
End patrol ports are now displayed on the map
Objectives on the navigation now change color when completedFixes:

Destroyer/Submarine collisions always leading to the destroyer being sunk
Fix the periscope animation problem
Save & Load issues with the submarine crew
Magnetic/Contact Detonator switch now working properly
Improper display of the TBT interface for widescreen resolutions
Loss of torpedo aiming track when crossing the International Date Line
Deck gun Metric/Imperial system issues
Repeating objectives bug
Correct date when loading a save from career

The 20 km visibility mod alone is worth the wait :up:

All the rest is added bonus for me :D

[rodan54]

Alright, just got to be sure here. Patch 1.5 is all inclusive correct?

[ReallyDedPoet]

80% there, a couple of hours left of work, hockey practice with me middle lad, then its SH4 1.4 time :yep::up:


RDP

[Ducimus]

Oh my god i have so much work to do.

I should NOT have stayed up late last night. Cause im sure as hell aint getting much in the way of sleep tonight. My hope, is that.. alot of the TM mod, i can carve out as being unneccesary. :rotfl:

[Rockin Robbins]

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know what effect this patch will have on mod's like Trigger_Maru and ROW?
In other words, how compatible is this?

Thanks and regards,
fvd
Ready to get off work now! Unfortunately work is not ready to get off me!:rotfl:

And mods are compatible with games, not the other way around;) We're back at square zero! Some mods are unnecessary (ask Leo about ROW), others won't work. Better to learn the game naked (with a friend) first anyway! I'm stoked.:up:

[Seaman_Hornsby]

Woo hoo! At last. The download has begun. Looks like I know what I'll be doing with my evening. :arrgh!:

I'm looking forward to testing out that new 20km visibility. Wonder if framerates will be affected. :hmm:

[STEED]

Well I go and eat cake. :huh:

Cake.....Yummy. :D

Oops sorry DL now. ;)

[black1]

Does this mean we should un-install all our mods then load the patch then play vanilla untill mods figure out what does and doesn't work? just want to be sure, thanks all.

[Seaman_Hornsby]

Does this mean we should un-install all our mods then load the patch then play vanilla untill mods figure out what does and doesn't work? just want to be sure, thanks all.

You got it, Skipper!

[Teh_Diplomat]

Can't wait to play this again. I've been using SH3 with SH Commander+GWX in the meantime.

[EinsteinEP]

Yay, UBI! I need to fake sick so I can get out of work, just after the download completes...just a few more seconds...

[Cap'n Spanky]

Better to learn the game naked (with a friend).


:hmm:

:oops:

[ATR-42]

220 meg :o cant wait to get home tomorrow and try it out!! :D

[brandtryan]

Sweet! I wish I could use time compression to get done with my work day :o

[Doolittle81]

From A Mod on the other SH4 forum: Originally posted by :
You are correct Yooperbacker.
- Disable all mods
- Patch to v1.4
- Generate a new snapshot

I suggested that maybe this advisory/guidance should be added to the initial Release announcement Posts......or in the Readme??

Meanwhile, could someone tell me what I should do now that I have already installed 1.4 without having first disabled all the JSGME mods?
I doubt if I am going to be the only one to make this mistake...just the first, apparently...:(

[u48]

Well just tested SH4 Patch 1.4 with a multiplayer mission. Yep, you guessed it, UBI has done SWEET FA for Multiplayer :-

1. Radio messages still DO NOT work :damn:
2. No Ship names and individual Tonnage shown for sinkings :damn:
3. Still showed as KILLED when you leave game and your sub as no damage.:damn:

One plus side....Load time is a lot quicker !

Thanks for nothing regarding multi fixes.:damn:

Footnote Used Greenlamp and Flag kill mods.........worked AOK......No prob :)

[SteamWake]

Sweet! I wish I could use time compression to get done with my work day :o

Do what Im doin. Download it at work burn it to a DVD :p

Being the IT guy has its advantages ;)

[brandtryan]

Already thought of that--but wondered if the IT guy (not me) would notice if someone were d/loading such a big file! :cool:

[amurph182]

Already thought of that--but wondered if the IT guy (not me) would notice if someone were d/loading such a big file! :cool:

your IT guy is probably too busy dl'ing his own non-work related stuff to notice.

ask me how I know this......

[brandtryan]

Already thought of that--but wondered if the IT guy (not me) would notice if someone were d/loading such a big file! :cool:

your IT guy is probably too busy dl'ing his own non-work related stuff to notice.

ask me how I know this......

:lol: you're probablly right.

[silent killer]

:D YAHOO

[longam]

Already thought of that--but wondered if the IT guy (not me) would notice if someone were d/loading such a big file! :cool:

your IT guy is probably too busy dl'ing his own non-work related stuff to notice.

ask me how I know this......

:up:

[rik007]

After disabling the mods with JSGME I installed the patch and reinstalled the ROW-mods and others. No problem at all. Now I'll have some fun while the devs can build the next target: the add-on! :sunny:

[Wilcke]

Whats for dinner....?

CROW!:yep:
Yummy!:rotfl:

I am so glad I was wrong!:88)

Wilcke

[Snuffy]

... Better to learn the game naked (with a friend) first anyway! I'm stoked.:up:

I've never fully understood why sitting in front of my computer naked did me any good!

Still working ATM so I gots about 2 hours left before I can download and install.
I would assume one would have to be port before installing, and if the previous patches were any clue, everyone will be starting new careers. :arrgh!:

[clayp]

Let me make sure I have this right before I screw it up..

1. Remove all mods
2.Re install game
3.Re install 1.3 and 1.4
4.Re install mods

Is this correct?

[SHARKMEAT]

Does this mean we should un-install all our mods then load the patch then play vanilla untill mods figure out what does and doesn't work? just want to be sure, thanks all.

Sound mod seems to work just fine, also the supergun lol, if you get board at times during game play :yep: .

[longam]

Let me make sure I have this right before I screw it up..

1. Remove all mods
2.Re install game
3.Re install 1.3 and 1.4
4.Re install mods

Is this correct?

Minoos:I would think patch v1.4 to be cumulative just as the previous ones. Mo need to apply earlier versions after a clean install...

The Readme file confirms it:
quote:
Please make sure that you are installing the right patch for your game version (US, EMEA, etc).
This patch can be applied on any Silent Hunter 4 version (1.0 to 1.3).
This patch will upgrade your version of Silent Hunter 4 to Silent Hunter 4 patch 1.3.

The last sentence should be read as "This patch will upgrade your version of Silent Hunter 4 to Silent Hunter 4 patch 1.4. "

It seems to be the same as before.

[tater]

Back to work for me.

[kiborg]

Ура! Накнец-то! Дождались.:up:

[denis_469]

Yes Kiborg, you right. Но лучше пиши на английском!

[Ducimus]

Patch is cumulative, just FYI.

[Iron Budokan]

So when does patch 1.5 come out? :hmm:
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Jus' kiddin'. I don't have time now but I'll download this new patch and give SH4 another whirl, prolly this weekend.

[donut]

DO NOT:reable any mods,till compatiablity is established !!:sunny:

[THE_MASK]

Patch 1.4 includes patches 1.1/1.2/1.3 FYI . Just install patch 1.4 over a new installation of SH4 .

[kriller2]

Finally! :D will throw away everything (not my computer ;) ) and try SH4 with ROW now.

[minsc_tdp]

Such awful timing for this. So many good new games out. Crysis, Rock Band, Guitar Hero III, Call of Duty 4... poor SH4 is kinda low on my priorities list, but unlike all the others, it does not have a temporary attraction, it's the bedrock of my games list that I can always count on for some leisure time, minimum of hassle. So I know I'll get back to it eventually.

[mrbeast]

Awwwww S**T gonna have to eat crow too now!:nope: They actually did it! :rotfl:

OTOH woohoooo SH4 1.4 :rock:

[Wilcke]

Awwwww S**T gonna have to eat crow too now!:nope: They actually did it! :rotfl:

OTOH woohoooo SH4 1.4 :rock:

I'll bring the beverage Kool Aid OK!:nope:

:rotfl:

Wilcke

[mrbeast]

Awwwww S**T gonna have to eat crow too now!:nope: They actually did it! :rotfl:

OTOH woohoooo SH4 1.4 :rock:

I'll bring the beverage Kool Aid OK!:nope:

:rotfl:

Wilcke

Yeah reckon I'm gonna need something to wash it down with! :yep: That crow looks mighty dry, wouldn't want any of it sticking in my throat! :oops:

[GOZO]

Guess the first will be a new "No CD" patch to emerge......:|\\

/OB

[Reaves]

Great i've got the rest of the day at work and then i'm busy until about 8.30 pm.


Thanks a lot to the Dev team though!

[MorganThePirate]

Finally, it is here……… Tonight will be a long night. However, first I will have my dinner: sushi and sake. Afterwards, good sex and enjoying the game……..:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Be aware of the following:
The save games and replays that were made with the original version of Silent Hunter 4 or with Silent Hunter 4 patch 1.1 to 1.3 will be incompatible with the new patch version.
In Base auto-saving are compatible with original version, Patch 1.1, Patch 1.2 and Patch 1.3.
Multiplayer (LAN or Online) connection between the original version of Silent Hunter 4, any of the previous patches and the new patch version is not possible. :arrgh!:

[Reaves]

Finally, it is here……… Tonight will be a long night. However, first I will have my dinner: sushi and sake. Afterwards, good sex and enjoying the game……..:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :arrgh!: :arrgh!: :arrgh!:



:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Brenjen]

I'll be happy to see a list of mods that will work in 1.4 - I have seen some of the ones I use listed (OakGroove is almost my hero) I suppose I'll re-install the submarine instruments mod & go from there & see how it stacks up.

[Overkill]

:smug:

[Elder-Pirate]

Oh my god i have so much work to do.

I should NOT have stayed up late last night. Cause im sure as hell aint getting much in the way of sleep tonight. My hope, is that.. alot of the TM mod, i can carve out as being unneccesary. :rotfl:


Don't forget that you have a dinner engagement. :lol:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/Crow.jpg

Caw,caw. :rotfl:

[longam]

I'll be happy to see a list of mods that will work in 1.4 - I have seen some of the ones I use listed (OakGroove is almost my hero) I suppose I'll re-install the submarine instruments mod & go from there & see how it stacks up.

Check on this thread from time to time.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125815

[Shyzar]

The patch does not work for me. The first time I forgot to unload mods.:damn: Game didn't work. Reinstalled twice, the second time I reinstalled codecs to make sure that is not the problem and it still does not work. No mods enabled, I havn't even installed JSGME. I can get to the game menu, but it's constantly freezing, and there are also graphical anomalies in the back ground such as flashing black lines.

Help would be very much Apprieciated.

[Ducimus]

Oh my god i have so much work to do.

I should NOT have stayed up late last night. Cause im sure as hell aint getting much in the way of sleep tonight. My hope, is that.. alot of the TM mod, i can carve out as being unneccesary. :rotfl:


Don't forget that you have a dinner engagement. :lol:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/Crow.jpg

Caw,caw. :rotfl:


http://www.gizmodo.jp/img/060816eating_crow.jpg

Lookie what im having for dinner tonight!

[Brenjen]

I'll be happy to see a list of mods that will work in 1.4 - I have seen some of the ones I use listed (OakGroove is almost my hero) I suppose I'll re-install the submarine instruments mod & go from there & see how it stacks up.
Check on this thread from time to time.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125815
Yeah, I will. Nothing there to look at yet though & I'm impatient (lol) I was looking at both 1.4 mod compatibility threads earlier in the day, that one & the one that got locked here. I decided to go fresh all the way so I just completely wiped everything SH4 related & started from scratch, I just hate to be disappointed if the OakGroove gauges won't work, that's my favorite mod but this go around I'm going in deep & putting in NSM & ROW mods too. Still a little left to D/L (at 97% of ROW sound effects) & I'm off to install all I can before it gets too late & test function tomorrow.

[Seaman_Hornsby]

The patch does not work for me. The first time I forgot to unload mods.:damn: Game didn't work. Reinstalled twice, the second time I reinstalled codecs to make sure that is not the problem and it still does not work. No mods enabled, I havn't even installed JSGME. I can get to the game menu, but it's constantly freezing, and there are also graphical anomalies in the back ground such as flashing black lines.

Help would be very much Apprieciated.

When you uninstalled SHIV, did you also remove the "SH4" directory the game places in the My Documents folder? There are config files there too that might be messing with your re-install. Try wiping it all out, reloading and patching to 1.3. If that runs, then apply 1.4 and give it a go. If it still doesn't work, maybe your download of 1.4 is corrupt-try another download.

Good luck!

[Shyzar]

The patch does not work for me. The first time I forgot to unload mods.:damn: Game didn't work. Reinstalled twice, the second time I reinstalled codecs to make sure that is not the problem and it still does not work. No mods enabled, I havn't even installed JSGME. I can get to the game menu, but it's constantly freezing, and there are also graphical anomalies in the back ground such as flashing black lines.

Help would be very much Apprieciated.
When you uninstalled SHIV, did you also remove the "SH4" directory the game places in the My Documents folder? There are config files there too that might be messing with your re-install. Try wiping it all out, reloading and patching to 1.3. If that runs, then apply 1.4 and give it a go. If it still doesn't work, maybe your download of 1.4 is corrupt-try another download.

Good luck!

I will try that. Thanks for the quick reply.

[Lord Kelvin]

Hmm, might as well start another campaign then, seeing as how I've managed to mess up my current campaign several times.

Whee.

[Shyzar]

Ya, It's corrupted. The files only 219 MB when it should be 225 MB. I'm redownloading now. But I have a question. Do you need to first patch it to 1.3 because I heard in other threads that the download can patch even the original version.

Thanks.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Ya, It's corrupted. The files only 219 MB when it should be 225 MB. I'm redownloading now. But I have a question. Do you need to first patch it to 1.3 because I heard in other threads that the download can patch even the original version.

Thanks.

No the new patch is all you need, install stock, then 1.4 and you are good to go :yep::up:


RDP

[Factor]

You can patch right over the stock game.

[Shyzar]

Ya, It's corrupted. The files only 219 MB when it should be 225 MB. I'm redownloading now. But I have a question. Do you need to first patch it to 1.3 because I heard in other threads that the download can patch even the original version.

Thanks.
No the new patch is all you need, install stock, then 1.4 and you are good to go :yep::up:


RDP
Thanks for the reply.

I sort of regret checking subsim before I played SH4. I was actually planning to start playing with limited batteries, compressed air and manual targeting. But I checked subsim and I saw "Patch 1.4 Released" I d/led and patched and of course, it didn't work.

[Elder-Pirate]

Ya, It's corrupted. The files only 219 MB when it should be 225 MB. I'm redownloading now. But I have a question. Do you need to first patch it to 1.3 because I heard in other threads that the download can patch even the original version.

Thanks.

It's supposed to be 219.7 MB, don't know where you heard 225 MB.

Also you ( and others ) may just want to "defrag" your Hard Drive before starting a new SH4, 1.4 and then all those mods. Defrag is a good insurance. :yep:


Good luck.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Ya, It's corrupted. The files only 219 MB when it should be 225 MB. I'm redownloading now. But I have a question. Do you need to first patch it to 1.3 because I heard in other threads that the download can patch even the original version.

Thanks.
No the new patch is all you need, install stock, then 1.4 and you are good to go :yep::up:


RDP
Thanks for the reply.

I sort of regret checking subsim before I played SH4. I was actually planning to start playing with limited batteries, compressed air and manual targeting. But I checked subsim and I saw "Patch 1.4 Released" I d/led and patched and of course, it didn't work.
I can't tell you how many times I have installed\uninstalled SH3 and now 4 :doh:
But both games have been worth it, plus you learn a few things along the way :yep:


RDP

[Shyzar]

It's supposed to be 219.7 MB, don't know where you heard 225 MB.

Also you ( and others ) may just want to "defrag" your Hard Drive before starting a new SH4, 1.4 and then all those mods. Defrag is a good insurance. :yep:


Good luck.

Sorry for my total lack of knowledge. But how do you "defrag" a hard drive? I assume you need a special program. If there is one, where can I get it?

[Shyzar]

Download just finished. And it turns out. the one I had wasn't corrupted :damn:
I just uninstalled SH4, but I'm going to hold off reinstalling and patching until tomorrow. Hopefully it works or I'll have to revert back to 1.3.

But 1.3 is better than nothing...

I'm also planning to get SH3. I was actaully getting it a couple weeks aga, I went to future shop, they said they had 2 left. Searched the shelves and couldn't find it :down:

[Seaman_Hornsby]

It's supposed to be 219.7 MB, don't know where you heard 225 MB.

My download is 224,975 kb, so 225mb is correct. At least that's the size of the 1.4 patch I downloaded and it works! :rock:

[Lord Kelvin]

Sorry for my total lack of knowledge. But how do you "defrag" a hard drive? I assume you need a special program. If there is one, where can I get it?
If you're using XP,

My Computer --> Right-click any drive --> Properties --> Tools --> Defragment Now... --> Select drive you want to defrag (in this case the drive where SH4 is installed, most probably C) --> Defragment --> Wait (may take between 10 minutes to beyond, depending on how good your processor is, how fragmented the drive is, how big it is, etc. etc.)

[Shyzar]

Thanks for the quick reply Lord Kelvin.
I appreciate it.

I just realized I never rebooted the computer after installation or patching. That could be the problem. I hope it is.
If not, I don't know what I am going to do...

[MorganThePirate]

If you have VISTA, then go to the control panel; look for system & maintenance; Administrative tools; and defrag hard drive. Have Fun:arrgh!:

[vindex]

I haven't downloaded the patch yet, just found out about it. But hats of to the developer AND publisher for sticking with this and resolving many of the key issues that were holding this game back from reaching its true (awesome) potential. 1.4 plus mods will be spectacular.

Now I have to change my "Viva 1.3" tagline.

[Reece]

Hmm, my first install of SH4, I'm a little nervous, this is a whole new thing for me, I guess I will have to start at the accademy, wonder if if it's anything like SH3?:roll:
Sure hope this patch is good, rant, rave, etc.:yep:

[kiwi_2005]

YAHOO! :rock::rock::rock::rock::up::up:

[Excalibur Bane]

Ah, damn it. :doh:

[clayp]

My 1.4 patch D/L is 219mb=230,373,680 bytes..Do I have the correct one?

[Lord Kelvin]

Mine was around 219 MB, got it off of the Filefront mirror. Just try running it, and if it doesn't work, try getting it from a different mirror.

[clayp]

Mine was around 219 MB, got it off of the Filefront mirror. Just try running it, and if it doesn't work, try getting it from a different mirror.

Thank you....:D

[Teh_Diplomat]

Wow, does this ever make a huge difference, I haven't played since 1.1, so you can imagine the joy I'm feeling now. Now to catch up on the current compatible mods and I'll be all set to sail the high seas


mad props Ubisoft.http://www.systemwars.com/forums/mysmiliesvb/mysmilie_793.gif

[-Pv-]

Ok all you doubters and complainers. Delivered on time.

1st reaction playing from autosave in port out of Pearl is nothing obvious except internal periscopes animate. Water looks the same to me so far. Time will tell.
-Pv-

[Propy]

Just want to be sure; do I have to reinstall the game before I patch. Sounds unnecessary to me. Cant I just install the 1.4 patch directly? (I have 1.3 now...) It works this way with almost every other game...

[maerean_m]

Alright, just got to be sure here. Patch 1.5 is all inclusive correct?yes, the add-on includes the 1.4 patch

[maerean_m]

Just want to be sure; do I have to reinstall the game before I patch. Sounds unnecessary to me. Cant I just install the 1.4 patch directly? (I have 1.3 now...) It works this way with almost every other game...yes, you install the 1.4 patch over whatever version you're running (1.0, 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3)

[Propy]

Many thanks! Thought it was like that. But you guys are the expert on SH4 so it is best to ask first...

[The General]

Thanks maerean_m :up:

[Front Runner]

I haven't had time to play with SH4 for several months as I have been out at sea in real life, working on my USCG Masters License and my sailing instructor's credentials, successfully, I might add.

It has been rather fun playing with all of my real world chart tools and plotting DR, running fixes, set and drift, etc. All of that practice can only help my torpedo targeting in the SH4 world.

Note to the DEV Team....add tides and tidal currents and ocean currents in patch 1.5 as a difficulty level setting in order to affect torpedo tracks in and around straits and harbors....

Now that 1.4 is released, I am looking forward to some stormy weather so I can spend some time on the computer. The WX here in Florida has been really excellent with very few days on which I have been unable to get out on the water.

Even the cold fronts that have moved through have been rather mild and not too breezy to sail. That usually changes in December when we actually get some cold weather and I will have to put on a sweater ;)

Oh, and I have found an excellent way to simulate life aboard a diesel boat! It requires one to have their own boat with a diesel engine. I set up my laptop at the nav station, which is right over the diesel fuel tank, great for residual diesel odor.
Then I start SH4 and when I am on the surface in the game, I run the diesel engine on board my boat and do a battery charge. Clonking my head on the overhead while going through passageways on the boat also adds to the effect. Maybe I should install a periscope on the sailboat, what do you think? I could use it to get relative bearings and plot attack profiles on my manuevering board.

Oh great, now I've got another project for the boat, Add Periscope and Radar....

Downloading now.......

[Wave Skipper]

I can still find plenty copys at my local stores - their boxes are dust covered. When this train wreck first appeared I visited all the sites about SH4 and quit counting the gripes about it when the count got over 50. So I figured I'd wait until modders had a chance to do something with it and until SH4 1.4 came out - which I must admit I thought WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. But it has!

[zaknafein]

I knew this game will be playable at full capacity when the time comes.developers and modders making great things about it against ubisoft's ugly behaviour.now I am really waiting for u-boat add-on!

thanks everyone

[moose1am]

I would suggest that you turn off any and all sypware and antivirus and firewalls and then REDOWNLOAD the game again. You probably got a bad copy of the patch.

Then completley delete the old game and check the registry for copies of the files too. Sometimes programmers don't make the auto game delete program remove all the files they put on your computer. So it doesn't hurt to check the registery.

Now reinstall the game from the original CD and then install the newly downloaded 1.4 patch.

If that doesn't work or help then I don't know what else to tell you.

Might make a back up copy of the mods before you do all the above.



The patch does not work for me. The first time I forgot to unload mods.:damn: Game didn't work. Reinstalled twice, the second time I reinstalled codecs to make sure that is not the problem and it still does not work. No mods enabled, I havn't even installed JSGME. I can get to the game menu, but it's constantly freezing, and there are also graphical anomalies in the back ground such as flashing black lines.

Help would be very much Apprieciated.

[SteamWake]

The signifigantly reduced loading times in itself make this patch worthwhile.

[moose1am]

It's a good idea to reboot your computer after unintalling a program and before installing something new. Rebooting is good insurance that the temp files are removed. If not you may have to go into the hard drive and find all the *.tmp files and remove them manually.

Defrag is a windows XP feature. It's in the start /all programs/ accessories/system tools/ system defragmenter .

Download just finished. And it turns out. the one I had wasn't corrupted :damn:
I just uninstalled SH4, but I'm going to hold off reinstalling and patching until tomorrow. Hopefully it works or I'll have to revert back to 1.3.

But 1.3 is better than nothing...

I'm also planning to get SH3. I was actaully getting it a couple weeks aga, I went to future shop, they said they had 2 left. Searched the shelves and couldn't find it :down:

[maerean_m]

The signifigantly reduced loading times in itself make this patch worthwhile.The add-on has even more optimisations. :up:

[Stary Wuj]

Devs, thank You very much !!!!

:D

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[SteamWake]

The signifigantly reduced loading times in itself make this patch worthwhile.The add-on has even more optimisations. :up:

Sounds promising.

Waiting patiently.

[donut]

SHIV,is a must have simulation:up: :rock: :sunny:

[Alex]

The signifigantly reduced loading times in itself make this patch worthwhile.The add-on has even more optimisations. :up:

Thanks in advance, Mr Mihai ! :up: :sunny:

[SHARKMEAT]

Awwwww S**T gonna have to eat crow too now!:nope: They actually did it! :rotfl:

OTOH woohoooo SH4 1.4 :rock:

I'll bring the beverage Kool Aid OK!:nope:

:rotfl:

Wilcke

Yeah reckon I'm gonna need something to wash it down with! :yep: That crow looks mighty dry, wouldn't want any of it sticking in my throat! :oops:

Much less when it is road kill crow ;)

[fvd]

What's the general idea of everybody:

Deactivate all the installed mod's, install the patch, play the game and then install all of the mod's one by one to check things out?

Regards,
fvd

[SteamWake]

What's the general idea of everybody:

Deactivate all the installed mod's, install the patch, play the game and then install all of the mod's one by one to check things out?

Regards,
fvd

Thats the convetional wisdom and a good way of trouble shooting. If the game suddenly starts crashing you wont know if the mods or the patch is causing it.

Personally I installed over only the green button mod and had no problems. Ill start adding more after a few days as I wait for horror storys to pour in.

[manucapo]

its kind off a relief to have the patch out lets just hope it brings something good with it

[Shyzar]

I rebooted after patching and it worked fine but it crashed a half hour in while I was practicing manuel targeting. When I started it up again, it didn't work. Could be I have to reboot each time or I have to watch the intro each time.
Hopefully the crashes don't persist...

[mrbeast]

This patch is pretty cool really. I know it has its short comings in some areas, but then again who seriously was expecting it to be perfect? Nothing in life is perfect so why would SH4 be any different?

Although I'm not a fan of things like strategic options, I'm looking forward to the expansion, if not just to see what further enhancements it will make.

I just hope it doesn't alter too much, so after we've got everything sorted for 1.4 compatible mods we have to start all over again a couple of months down the line :damn:

[Caseck]

I rebooted after patching and it worked fine but it crashed a half hour in while I was practicing manuel targeting. When I started it up again, it didn't work. Could be I have to reboot each time or I have to watch the intro each time.
Hopefully the crashes don't persist...

It could be driver issues.

If you haven't, try visiting your video card maker's homesite and download the latest drivers for your video card, then restart. Could be it.

[Elder-Pirate]

Guess the first will be a new "No CD" patch to emerge......:|\\

/OB


WHY? Sh4 was disc free with patch 1.3, 1.4 is no different.

[Shyzar]

I rebooted after patching and it worked fine but it crashed a half hour in while I was practicing manuel targeting. When I started it up again, it didn't work. Could be I have to reboot each time or I have to watch the intro each time.
Hopefully the crashes don't persist...
It could be driver issues.

If you haven't, try visiting your video card maker's homesite and download the latest drivers for your video card, then restart. Could be it.

No, It's not driver issues, I got it working fine, I don't know how though...

Had no crashes since.

[Doolittle81]

Well, I screwed the pooch for sure. I tried to do what everyone recommended. I Uninstalled SH4, then re-installed (from DVD), installed the patch, copied over the MOD folder(s). Somehow it got all messed up. Now I seem to have a halfway installed SH4. It doesn't work. Locks up to a black screen immediately after the intro movie plays. I tried to use Control Panel to Uninstall SH4 again, but it tells me I have to uninstall the 1.4 version first....which I can't do. I then try to re-install from the orig DVD again, the DVD opens up with the "Install" option greyed out and if I select "Uninstall" I get the same message about 1.4 version being in place and having to be removed before SH4 can be installed.

I've got nothing now, as far as SH4 goes. It's Prob a weird Registry problem but I am no way capable of going in and messing with the registry. Any ideas?

[gg5056]

Installed 1.4, After I got to Main Menu to Careers it started to load,
got Please Wait. Then stopped.
I tried to reboot with No luck. I uninstalled SH4, reinstalled SH4 &
1.4 update. Still same message. Found out get ( Warning: Meu ID not found
0x31020001) Never had this warning before SH4 was running fine til I loaded 1.4

Would anyone Please help.

[Cdr84]

Had similar problems.

Did JSGME unmod. Patched. Had crashes and loading errors. would not let me uninstall or reinstall. I musta manually edited something or other and forgot about it.

I manually deleted all the SH4 files and ran a registry cleaner.

Good freebee here: http://www.ccleaner.com/

Then it allowed me to reinstall.

Patched, no problems.

:cool:

Doom

vista 32bit

[maerean_m]

Installed 1.4, After I got to Main Menu to Careers it started to load,
got Please Wait. Then stopped.
I tried to reboot with No luck. I uninstalled SH4, reinstalled SH4 &
1.4 update. Still same message. Found out get ( Warning: Meu ID not found
0x31020001) Never had this warning before SH4 was running fine til I loaded 1.4

Would anyone Please help. I don't know how exactly the interface mods do their job, but it's a good chance they replace the menu_1024_768.ini file with a modified version of 1.3 version of the file. If that's the case, the item with the 0x31020001 ID is missing (which is for the new icons displayed in navigation map for ports (and as part of the "strategic game" in the add-on)).

So you need to get your hands on the clean version from 1.4 patch.

:ping: The conclusion is that all 1.3 interface mods that change the menu_1024_768.ini are NOT compliant with the 1.4 patch and will cause the navigation map to crash.

[gg5056]

Installed 1.4, After I got to Main Menu to Careers it started to load,
got Please Wait. Then stopped.
I tried to reboot with No luck. I uninstalled SH4, reinstalled SH4 &
1.4 update. Still same message. Found out get ( Warning: Meu ID not found
0x31020001) Never had this warning before SH4 was running fine til I loaded 1.4

Would anyone Please help. I don't know how exactly the interface mods do their job, but it's a good chance they replace the menu_1024_768.ini file with a modified version of 1.3 version of the file. If that's the case, the item with the 0x31020001 ID is missing (which is for the new icons displayed in navigation map for ports (and as part of the "strategic game" in the add-on)).

So you need to get your hands on the clean version from 1.4 patch.

:ping: The conclusion is that all 1.3 interface mods that change the menu_1024_768.ini are NOT compliant with the 1.4 patch and will cause the navigation map to crash.

Tried other web site to download 1.4. reinstall sh4 & 1.4. still getting menu ID...
also tried reinstall 1.3, but sh4 will not let meyou due to 1.4

[dkerfoot]

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/9151054216

Use this link to avoid having to join the file download sites they provide as mirrors:

http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2172

[seaofred]

Hey guys, new member, big history buff but not very computer oriented. I uninstalled all patches and SH4. Reinstalled SH4 from the cd and went to ubisoft to download the patch. Last night I was stalking a Kongo class BB and had a DD brush the conning tower(need to pay more attention to sonar). The DD put out lifeboats and I incurred no damage.
My Questions to the informed masses.
1. Wasn't the patch supposed to fix this.
2. Did I get a bad patch from Ubisoft?
3. How do I get rid of tunnel vision when going after a fleet unit????

Anyway any help would be appreciated. I have been following the site and threads for awhile and you guys are a hoot. Good hunting.

[Holland]

mmmmm, update.

[Seaman_Hornsby]

1. Wasn't the patch supposed to fix this.
2. Did I get a bad patch from Ubisoft?
3. How do I get rid of tunnel vision when going after a fleet unit????

First off, welcome aboard! And on to business:

1. The patch was supposed to address this, but I have not yet been run over in 1.4, so I cannot speak to this. I'll have to test tonight. Is it possible the DD blew himself up with DCs?
2. I doubt it. If the game is running fine the patch file was probably good.
3. You have to make periodic periscope sweeps and check the map for contact lines to help keep track of the escorts.

Good luck and good hunting!

[Doolittle81]

Had similar problems.

Did JSGME unmod. Patched. Had crashes and loading errors. would not let me uninstall or reinstall. I musta manually edited something or other and forgot about it.

I manually deleted all the SH4 files and ran a registry cleaner.

Good freebee here: http://www.ccleaner.com/

Then it allowed me to reinstall.

Patched, no problems.

:cool:

Doom

vista 32bit


Very happy to read this post. It makes me think I am finally heading in the right direction. I am willing to try your approach... and gald to see also that you have Vista32, as do I. Am I correct in assuming the free registry cleaner is risk-free, so to speak? I get sweaty palms and nervous twitches at even the though of personally/manually screwing around with the registry.

Also, when you say manually delete SH4 files, you mean just delete them, send them to the recycle bin and then away permanently, right? It's been my understanding never to do that to remove a program/application because you can leave troublesome remnants of stuff on the PC, specifically in the registry I suppose.

I guess I am looking for a reassuring, "Go Ahead, son...not to worry" encouragement.

For what it is worth, here's my story that I was about to post in one or more threads on the Forums,looking for help. Does it seem to describe your situation/experience as well...especially regarding the installation/uninstall/reinstallation problem?:

"I have a long excruciatingly detailed explanation of the mistakes I made, and involving several install/reinstall/patching cycles, but at this point maybe just the short version and the current situation will suffice:
Somehow, my SH4 and 'SH4 patched to 1.4' got all messed up. Initially I installed 1.4 without first disenabling the Mods. I learned from the forums that was wrong, so I started trying to do it right..without ever checking to see if 1.4 was actually working. I also simultaneously tried to change the install from C drive to D drive, then back to C drive where it is now. Two days later, the symptoms now are that when I start SH4 it does say it is v1.4 on the screen, it shows the intro logo and movie...it also gives me the main menu. I can set Options...and they do appear in the cfg files in the "Documents/SH4" folder. But, when I select a mission (a training one for simplicity)I see the loading screen working, but it then immediately locks up and goes black and I get a "SH4 has stopped" notice.

In a nutshell, it is a total mess...but it's gotten worse: When I now try to Uninstall SH4 thru Windows Control Panel, I get a screen which says "...cannot run setup.exe"
When I try to Uninstall or Re-install SH4 using the original DVD, I get a message saying that I need to Uninstall version 1.4 first before the DVD will install SH4 version 1.0. The DVD doesn't even offer me an option to "Uninstall" SH4 (whatever the version) It's a Catch22, to say the least.
Along the way I did a System Restore, but that didn't help.

I'm pretty sure that I may now have a badly corrupted Registry for Silent Hunter,which might explain the problem with Control Panel and Orig DVD failing to Uninstall SH4. I don't really want to go into the registry because it is so dangerous, but would do it if I only have to delete certain specifically identified silent hunter entries. In layman's terms, I basically think I need to somehow erase all evidence of SH4 on my PC, however that can be done, then start from scratch with the original DVD.


Any expert ideas/help will be greatly appreciated....

[Roger Dodger]

Thanks to the Devs for the 1.4 patch. Its been a long time comming, and from what I've heard here, worth the wait.

I've downloaded the patch, but I'm going to wait for awhile before I patch the sim, though, for two reasons:

1. I'm going to finish out the war for once. Its Oct. '44, so I will only do two or three more patrols to really sail through the war.

2. Two or three weeks to finish out the war will give the modders a chance to adjust their mods for compatability. I'm sure I'll miss Trigger Maru if I have to do without it. Thanx Ducimus. I also want to be sure that Tater's Campaign Layers will still work. Kudos for you, too. And to all the others that have done such wonderful work on this sim, Thanx!

Now, if only someone would get the spelling of Bourganville right, I'll be just happy, happy, joy, joy! :up:

I"ll keep a weather eye on these forums for any helpful hints.

[manucapo]

about the ramming DD,s i run the convoy mission in the sub school
and let the dds ram me
it damaged all my sistems
and the dd took no damage atleast gave no indications of taking damage
they usually used to damage themselves when they did that in 1.3
so something out there has been fixed

be sure you removed all files
sometimes when you uninstall you still have some left over files from addons
(atleast ive noticed that)
maybe making sure you delete those will give you a real clean install

Damage taken by hulls submarine is shown in the damage interface?
what is that supposed to do i havent noticed anything different
can somone point me to it

[SnowCajun]

Well it's nice to see that fairing gone from the Gato class subs, now I can see to defend myself finally without the walls blocking my sight.

I've got a saved game and have 8 torpedo's left and the Yamato in my sights very close .. seven times I've hit it with 8 torpedo's and nothing happens, not even one propeller stops turning nor does it even begin to get lower in the water. Did they break something here, I mean 8 torpedo's should do more than this? I've sank the thing several times with 7, even one time with 6 .. I've tried every depth setting between 12 feet to 19 feet deep .. any clues?

I also notice that no matter what I do if I aim just in front of the Yamato my torpedo's hit from the center to the stern .. I've set them on slow speed, high speed .. still when I aim for the bow they hit way back ... I've noticed this running into the passenger liners as well .. anyone else???

SnowCajun

[maerean_m]

The torpedo's trajectory can differ with a few meters from the trajectory computed by the TDC if the range is short and the bearing is a big number (>45). So, if you want a very accurate hit, position your self in such a way that the bearing is less than 20 degrees.

[Snakeeyes]

This couldn't come at a better time for me. I've hit a bug in the campaign where the game pulls a CTD right at the same moment in time. No way around it.

I need to ask if we have to do a complete reinstall of the game and then patch it or can simple disengage all my mods with the mod-enabler, patch the game, and then start testing the mods one by one again?

[Fincuan]

Disable all mods and run the "Compare game files to snapshot" in JSGME(you of course generated the snapshot after installing JSGME, right?). If it lists nothing but screenshots you're free to patch to 1.4. If any actual game files are listed, then I'm afraid reinstalling is the only secure option. :up:

[Snakeeyes]

Oi.

Do you think I should start a new campaign from scratch? I mean... if I am getting CTDs NOW before the patch it's safe to say that something in my code is corrupted right?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Oi.

Do you think I should start a new campaign from scratch? I mean... if I am getting CTDs NOW before the patch it's safe to say that something in my code is corrupted right?

I would start from scratch SE :yep::up:, just to be on the safe side.


RDP

[Snakeeyes]

Yup dagnabit!

"do over!"

[Munchausen]

I've got a saved game and have 8 torpedo's left and the Yamato in my sights very close .. seven times I've hit it with 8 torpedo's and nothing happens, not even one propeller stops turning nor does it even begin to get lower in the water. Did they break something here .. any clues?

From official notes on the 1.4 patch:

Note 1: The save games and replays that were made with older versions of Silent Hunter 4 will be incompatible with the new patch version.

Note 2: In Base autosaving are compatible between original version and Patch


Start the game from your last Base autosave. Hopefully, you won't have already borked the patch by starting from a different saved game.

[SnowCajun]

Start the game from your last Base autosave. Hopefully, you won't have already borked the patch by starting from a different saved game.
Actually this is in a fresh new campaign with ver 1.4 .. I just saved before shooting and man I can't sink that thing no matter what I do .. I only had the 8 torpedo's left .. I got 6 good bow shots and hits on her, and 2 aft shots off and hits, and the Yamato never even slowed down a bit .. This has become a challenge.. I keep playing that save over and over, but nothing I do can stop her. I've since continued on with the original campaign, I've already completed that patrol even, but I still replay that save now trying to figure out how to sink her.

I find it odd that people say they've never run into the Yamato, I see her fairly often I feel .. not every patrol but it's not as uncommon as some make it out to be, actually I ran into another task force with 2 Yamato's and 2 carriers on the way home from that one patrol above I was talking about where I couldn't sink her, but was I out of torpedos .. my bad luck!

SnowCajun

[GOZO]

Just installed 1.04 on a fresh SHIV. It works! very happy the "No CD" is incorporated.

Well done.:up:

Now waiting to see what happens with TM and other mods.:)

Cheers
PB

[Alemap]

Hello please advise me here
I used to run SH4 v1.3 without any problems. A couple of weeks ago I suffered a catastrophic crash unrelated to the game and had to carry out a factory reinstall on my 3 year old HP Pavilion 1723. Since then I have been reinstalling everything, incuding up to date drivers as you would expect.

I reinstalled SH4 followed by the latest patch 1.4. I first scented trouble when the intro appeared in psychodelic colours very different from the way it used to appear. Apart from this, the little potted history of the campaign to date - you know the one with the voice over and the charts, shuddered horribly.
The game otherwise loaded easily. However as soon as I approached action (ie one of my expertly aimed torpedoes about to blow the stern off a jap destroyer. Or an imminent bombing attack by a zero) the game crashed. Not an ordinary ctd but the 'blue screen of death' - a system memory dump.

I removed everything and reinstalled the game without patches - same result. The problem seems to be with my computer but can anyone tell me what is wrong...
I was always happy playing this game and I feel bereft...

Please experts, give me the benefit of your advice

[Powerthighs]

@Doolittle81

When you uninstall SH4 via Add/Remove Programs it is actually running this command:

C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628}\setup.exe -runfromtemp -l0x0009 -removeonly

On my machine the directory C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628} has setup.exe, a setup.ini file that has the string "Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific" in it, and several other files. It also has a 1.04.000 subdirectory that has many of the same files.

The Uninstall option from the control panel may no longer point to where these files are on your machine. See if you can find them, then run setup.exe -runfromtemp -l0x00009 -removeonly from that directory.

[Herodotus]

All the mods I've d/l have worked including Oakidge et.al. and many otherrs. Don't shyaway from your mods....I've found none to conflict. You just have to start a new career. Chookers!:smug:

[mrbeast]

All the mods I've d/l have worked including Oakidge et.al. and many otherrs. Don't shyaway from your mods....I've found none to conflict. You just have to start a new career. Chookers!:smug:

Might be a good idea to hang fire on some of the mods. They might be working ok in the sense that the game runs and doesn't CTD or freeze or do anything unusual, but they may be cancelling out things like the extended horizon in 1.4 etc. Plus using mods not catered for 1.4 might have unforeseen side effects that you could run into later on and may be a royal pain in the backside.

[ReallyDedPoet]

All the mods I've d/l have worked including Oakidge et.al. and many otherrs. Don't shyaway from your mods....I've found none to conflict. You just have to start a new career. Chookers!:smug:
Might be a good idea to hang fire on some of the mods. They might be working ok in the sense that the game runs and doesn't CTD or freeze or do anything unusual, but they may be cancelling out things like the extended horizon in 1.4 etc. Plus using mods not catered for 1.4 might have unforeseen side effects that you could run into later on and may be a royal pain in the backside.

I'll second that one :up::up:


RDP

[Doolittle81]

@Doolittle81

When you uninstall SH4 via Add/Remove Programs it is actually running this command:
.....
On my machine the directory C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628} has setup.exe, a setup.ini file
...
The Uninstall option from the control panel may no longer point to where these files are on your machine.

I've found the hidden folder/file "C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628}", in which there is a "setup.exe". It does not show the additional " -runfromtemp -l0x0009 -removeonly" extension/comment.

Running that "setup.exe" from this directory gives me the same Windows error message that "Setup.exe has stopped working" which I get when I try to Uninstall thru Control Panel.

Any advice on my next step...anyone?

Additional relevant information:
From other advice I've received over the last two days, I've also previously found the {0D005F9...etc...} folder at two locations in my Registry. One location is in the uninstall folder in the SOFTWARE\Microsoft\...Uninstall folder.

Any advice on registry changing? (Other than to make a backup copy beforehand, of course)

Moderators: I'd like to let this post sit here for a day or so to see if anyone has any additional advice before I take any Registry change action. After that time, I will delete this post so as to unclutter this thread (sorry for somewhat temporarily imposing upon the thread)....


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POST edited/shortened drastically on 4 Dec so as not to further offend anyone else. I will totally delete this afternoon.

[Kingswat]

finally

[SteamWake]

finally

Finally what ?

The patch was delivered, as promised, in the time promised ?

Finally someone delved into the registry mysterys ?

Finally you have upped your post count by one ?

We need a little more than one word to go on here.

[Elder-Pirate]

finally

Finally what ?

The patch was delivered, as promised, in the time promised ?

Finally someone delved into the registry mysterys ?

Finally you have upped your post count by one ?

We need a little more than one word to go on here.


I think the cat has his tongue. :rotfl:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/akitty.gif

[Powerthighs]

I've found the hidden folder/file "C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628}", in which there is a "setup.exe". It does not show the additional " -runfromtemp -l0x0009 -removeonly" extension/comment.

Running that "setup.exe" from this directory gives me the same Windows error message that "Setup.exe has stopped working" which I get when I try to Uninstall thru Control Panel.

Any advice on my next step...anyone?

Additional relevant information:
From other advice I've received over the last two days, I've also previously found the {0D005F9...etc...} folder at two locations in my Registry. One location is in the uninstall folder in the SOFTWARE\Microsoft\...Uninstall folder.

Two things to try:

1) The -runfromtemp, etc., are not part of the filename but are command line options passed to setup.exe. To run it with these options:
a) Open an elevated command prompt (find cmd.exe in c:\windows\system32, right click it and select "Run as Administrator").
b) type cd "C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628}" and hit enter.
c) type setup.exe -runfromtemp -l0x0009 -removeonly and hit enter.

The above probably won't make it work, but its worth a shot first.


2) Use MsiZap.exe to remove the record of this installation in the registry. This doesn't remove the SH4 files on your machine or registry entries used by the game, but it does safely remove the record in the registry that let's Windows Installer itself know that SH4 was installed. I've never used InstallShield, but I'm assuming it uses Windows Installer under the hood.
a) Info on MsiZap.exe is available at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370523.aspx
b) To get it, download and install the free Windows SDK at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C2B1E300-F358-4523-B479-F53D234CDCCF&displaylang=en
c) To run it, open an elevated command prompt as above, cd to the directory msizap.exe is in, and run msizap.exe T {0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628}.
d) Delete the folder C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{0D005F09-A5F4-473B-A901-5735C6AF5628}

After running MsiZap, the computer won't know you had SH4 installed, even though a bunch of its files will still be around. Go ahead and delete whatever SH4 files are on your machine. I would leave the registry alone at this point since a new installation should write any needed entries. Go ahead and attempt to install SH4 now off the DVD, it should work.

[Kingswat]

finally
Finally what ?

The patch was delivered, as promised, in the time promised ?

Finally someone delved into the registry mysterys ?

Finally you have upped your post count by one ?

We need a little more than one word to go on here.

I was referring to how long it takes for them to do anything in relation to this game and as an employee of another gaming company, I find it amazing that for patch 1.3 for instance it took community pressure to even bring that about.