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Manucubus
11-19-07, 04:15 PM
Salute Captains,
i am new on board, t still not good at SH3. I played abit Silent Service 1 and 2 and on the PC Red Storm Rising (where i was quite good at - even at hardest level) but the realism and difficulty of SH3 is tough (i play at 67% realism, all switched on except manual targetting and manual plotting).
I start my patrols always at September 1939 in a type VII and mostly hang around east of ireland. I was killed quite early in first 3 careers so i always started a new career. Now i already completed 3 patrols and my crew starts to get good. Yesterday i sunk a destroyer and a battleship from a great convoy (1 battle****, 2-3 large merchants, only 2-3 escorts left) but then got destroyed underwater myself after being chased for 1 hour. I still dont know what i did wrong, cause i was silent running all the time, between 80 and 100 meters and always tried to show my tail to the nearest destroyer. And i wasnt greedy and tried to reload the torpedos or get to periscope depth :(
Anyways: although only 3 patrols i got a nice career, quite some tonnage and am wondering if i should reload an old game or start a new career. What do you folx do?

Canovaro
11-19-07, 04:31 PM
I always start a new career. I always start at '39 and come to '42 or '43.
Be careful ;)

There are a couple of good threads about how to escape escorts.
Especially this one, which is about GWX by the way:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377

Manucubus
11-19-07, 04:31 PM
i sunk the destroyer just by luck: i approached the convoy from the front submerged, had a look through the microscope, and the destroyer showed me his broadside, speed 12knots, gyroangle below 10degrees, distance 1200m, his searchlight lit (but not pointing at me). I shot two electric eels and both hit :D A wonderful lucky hit, cause normally i avoid attacking destroyers...

Canovaro
11-19-07, 04:33 PM
i sunk the destroyer just by luck: i approached the convoy from the front submerged, had a look through the microscope, and the destroyer showed me his broadside, speed 12knots, gyroangle below 10degrees, distance 1200m, his searchlight lit (but not pointing at me). I shot two electric eels and both hit :D A wonderful lucky hit, cause normally i avoid attacking destroyers...

periscope ;)

"cause normally i avoid attacking destroyers..."

me too :yep:

Umfuld
11-19-07, 04:42 PM
Hi Manucubus

I usually play 'dead is dead' and do not start over. But there are a lot of scripted naval encounters in the grew wolves mod so sometimes I'll restart just to see this and that


Tough luck with the escorts. By the way, did you mean 'west' of Ireland?

STEED
11-19-07, 04:53 PM
hm, do you reload when you die?

For a second I thought you were talking about reloading your guns and tubes. :hmm: It would keep the crews minds off the fact they are about to die. ;) :lol:

Capa
11-19-07, 05:25 PM
I will play DiD but for now I'm too inexperienced for that to be fun. It's in my best interests to sometimes save and go out of my way to do something different, like raid a port, so that I get a feel for that kind of situation, and because it's fun. If I was playing DiD now, I'm confident playing sensibly I'd live a few years, but I'd have to forego those kind of learning experiences.

If I died due to some easily avoidable mistake though I'd consider starting with a new Kaleun.

3Jane
11-19-07, 05:31 PM
Alt-Tab to minimise the game and Ctrl-Alt-Del to stop the game running. Then you can reload a saved game without exiting the career.

Manucubus
11-19-07, 05:59 PM
yea, i know how to successfully end SH3 without my career being ended with my death...but i was just wondering whether i should do this and reload a saved game...you know...about realism and so...
My last career then scored me 90,000 tons (without cheating!!), including a battleship, a destroyer and an armed tug boat and ended at 160m with a crushed sub in january 1940 :(

i guess i play "dead is dead" and start my 4th career :cry:

Paajtor
11-19-07, 06:55 PM
If any progress doesn't fit your style, then simply save&exit, name the save "screwup" or whatever, and save.
To continue where you started, load the previous save...this will delete "screwup".

Umfuld
11-19-07, 07:24 PM
Glad to hear you are sticking with DiD. It's the only way to go :up:

You don't mention using any mods. One great thing about SH3 Commander is that you can create a good, expirenced crew (by giving them medals and promotions) early on.
If you get tired of starting with green sailors every time keep it in mind.

Brag
11-19-07, 09:23 PM
I play DID, always start in 39, though I have one carreer in reserve, where I go out and return the same day. so it will start with at least a trained crew.

So far, I haven't made it beyond 1942.

You may want to check out the survival articles in my Kielman webbie.

Iron Budokan
11-19-07, 09:25 PM
I always play DiD and for the record I've never played much past '43 cuz I get whacked by the Allies. So it's back to '39 for me. That's right, me, ever the optomist.

One time I played late Christmas '43, but that was on WoW, lol. Rammed by a Commie destroyer in my third patrol. :damn:

von hally
11-20-07, 12:06 PM
welcome aboard manucubus....did is the way to go...but i admit to reloading sometimes when i have spent an age rewarding my crew and upgrading my boat....so dont be too hard on yoursel at the start...by the way...to avoid detection when running silent....youl have to dive to around 190 to 200 ft.
i know this is in the red section of your depth guage...but your boat will handle it!!!

good hunting:up:

irish1958
11-21-07, 08:34 PM
I have sunk more Uboats than the entire British Navy. DID
I have never got past June 43.

papa_smurf
11-22-07, 03:27 PM
Nope, when im dead, I stay dead and start a new career. That is unless I use SH3 commander to make it out that I was forced to surface and spend the rest of the war in a POW camp.

KeptinCranky
11-22-07, 05:03 PM
I also play DiD but I do not always start in 1939, often when I want to play in the Mediterranean I'll start in 1941 or even 1942, same for Bergen and the Murmansk convoys

I generally have 3 different careers at the same time

When I have an extremely masochistic moment I start my career in early 1944 and see how many patrols I can successfully survive. This simulates a fresh young commander, just out of the naval academy (with the foreshortened courses, being trained in 2 years instead of 5) trying to do his best to have some effect on the allied war machine knowing he probably won't come back. It's a different ballgame entirely although I recently managed to use my VIIc in januari 1945 to sink 40k GRT (2 big tankers, a Large merchant and 2 others that I can't recall just now) in the North Sea and return home to Bergen without a scratch, only a 10 day patrol but quite nerve-wracking. worth a try.

as to all you guys dying in 42/43 would this be because your Kaleun persona is using tactics that worked in the Happy Times but aren't so useful anymore later on? :D

Umfuld
11-22-07, 07:22 PM
as to all you guys dying in 42/43 would this be because your Kaleun persona is using tactics that worked in the Happy Times but aren't so useful anymore later on? :D
I'm sure bad habbits / inexpirence caused the end to more than one of my long careers. But half the time I die, the other half I'd stop playing the game for awhile and when I got back into it I'd usually want to start a fresh career for some reason.

Just started in Jan 44, and man, it's not even fair, is it?


I attacked a convoy (what was that? 6 lead escorts??!!!?) and I may get away to live another day. I will feel very lucky if I do.

Kpt. Lehmann
11-22-07, 11:14 PM
I'm so 'hard-core' that I've got a real DC rigged up under my chair.

No reloading saves for me and my crew.

(At least when I finally get to really play through this bugger.)

The sucky thing about building and working on GWX stuff, is that when a modification and/or testing objective is slated as 'good to go'... you exit and move on to the next issue... over and over and over and over...

Thank GOD development for GWX/SH3 is over.

I feel all jiggly inside. Time to ENJOY it all is a comin'!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

(Okay... happy dance over... Back to all the admin stuff... :-? :dead: :doh: )

Badger Finn
11-23-07, 04:55 PM
DID! Then start a new career new boat where the last one left off then ya get a bit of progression happening its an old AOD habit

The Munster
11-23-07, 04:58 PM
Have had tons of promising 'saves' that I meant to go back to and never did. Moved on.
@ Kpt. .. 'bugger' .. that ain't a Texan word; methinks you're picking up bad words from us Brits :nope:

:rotfl:

Peto
11-23-07, 05:37 PM
I only reload a mision when I was sunk because of something that wasn't my fault :shifty:. I've never reloaded after I was KIA ;)! I've been tempted but it just doesn't feel right...

KeptinCranky
11-23-07, 07:36 PM
I agree with Peto, I once sank myself leaving Pantelleria Harbor by running into a subnet that was deployed in a most unreasonable fashion, I did reload that save, but if killed by enemy action I play DiD

Ivan Putski
11-23-07, 08:22 PM
I always play DID, I just lost a boat, and entire crew last night. I started my career in 9/40, and got all the way into 12/43 before being hounded to death by 3 destroyers, and a corvette. Took too much damage for the veteran repair crew to keep up with. Heavy flooding in most compartments, I went to the control room view a couple of minutes before the implosion, watched water, bursting from all the piping, and heard one of the crew say "Oh My God" just before the screen went black. That was the first time I was in the F2 sreen when that happened, usually I stay in F7, and fight the repairs till the end. It was a hell of a mission neverless. I`ll start a new career tonight. Puts:up:

Kpt. Lehmann
11-24-07, 12:26 AM
Have had tons of promising 'saves' that I meant to go back to and never did. Moved on.
@ Kpt. .. 'bugger' .. that ain't a Texan word; methinks you're picking up bad words from us Brits :nope:

:rotfl:

Yes, I think I am. While buying cigarettes the other day I said "Thanks mate" out of habit.

He gave me a puzzled look and I had to recover quickly, so as I left I said "See ya later" in the usual Texan sort of way.

LOL, I think he thought he was hearing things.

So... if being a Texan U-boat enthusiast, and picking up British mannerisms isn't odd enough for the people where I live... nothing ever will be.:lol:

Could be worse I guess.:|\\

Maybe I'll switch on my German accent. (That's gotta sound wierd coming from a Texan.)

Sigurd
11-25-07, 11:46 AM
I started playing DiD when I downloaded GWX. I'm not that experienced (or good for that matter), but somehow I felt wrong reloading my save games when I get sunk. For some reason, its the only game I play like this.

Now, If I just make a stupid mistake, like trying to ram into the bottom of an overhead DD by doing an emergency surface, and I end up popping up right where all the guns are aimed, I'll reload, and never try that again :yep: