I've decided im going back to the "Atlantik"

[Ducimus]

Assigned to SubRon 50 in a gato that is! :lol:

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_6/silent_victory.html
http://www.subvetpaul.com/SAGA_6_98.htm


If its not in the expansion, i say we add it in,- with a little artistic license!

Something about sinking some uboats in the bay of biscay puts a s**t eating grin on my face ! :arrgh!:

[MONOLITH]

I'm with ya. :up:

[Torplexed]

Alright! Time to exchange palm trees for the gloomy lochs of Scotland. :cool:

[Hartmann]

"USS Dorado (SS-248) disappeared with all hands during a transit between New London and Panama, and her fate remains unknown to this day. There is some evidence that she was either depth-charged by one of our own aircraft or torpedoed by a German U-boat that had been operating in the same vicinity near Cuba".

i did some patrols in the caribbean sea with my IX-B :arrgh!: be careful , these waters are infected with pirates .

[Ducimus]

I'd love to start working on it right away, but...
theres patch 1.4

then theres this add on.

Its an idea that is on the backburner, but oh yes...... it shall be done, one way or the other. buahahhahahah.

[SteamWake]

I'd love to start working on it right away, but...
theres patch 1.4

then theres this add on.

Its an idea that is on the backburner, but oh yes...... it shall be done, one way or the other. buahahhahahah.

Heh... its chatter like this that makes me rub my hands together and say Boohyaaa !

Really cant wait to see what the 'future' holds. :rock:

[stabiz]

USS Barb? :hmm:

Uhm ... not the meanest of sub-names.:rotfl:

[Ducimus]

USS Barb? :hmm:

Uhm ... not the meanest of sub-names.:rotfl:

The subs battle flag tells a different story :p

http://www.homeofheroes.com/profiles/fluckey_barb_flag.jpg

[stabiz]

It sure does. But I still feel like its a short for "Barbara", hehe. "Barbed Wire" would have been better.:rotfl:

[Ridgeback]

USS Barb? :hmm:

Uhm ... not the meanest of sub-names.:rotfl:


Yeah, but the crew called themselves "Barbarians" and by the look of that battle flag they lived up to it :cool:

[Torplexed]

In this day and age I'd rather serve on a USS Barb than a USS Hoe. :arrgh!:

Guys on the USS Flasher probably had a self-image problem too.

[stabiz]

:rotfl:

[Rockin Robbins]

Or USS Kraken. How would you like to be named after a roller coaster?

[captiandon]

Or USS Kraken. How would you like to be named after a roller coaster?

What a name for a sub. To be named after the mythical creature that was controled by Davy Jones Himself. A monster of the deep that would come up and destroy a ship without warning. A fitting name for a Sub.

[Sailor Steve]

Something about sinking some uboats in the bay of biscay puts a s**t eating grin on my face ! :arrgh!:
You can't fool me; that grin is always there. It happens when your brains leak out from too much hard work and not enough play time.:rotfl:

Comment two: I know what boat I want - USS Sea Dog (SS-401)! What a name:rock:

Actually, any of the "Seas" will do:
SS 399 USS Sea Cat
SS 400 USS Sea Devil
SS 401 USS Sea Dog
SS 402 USS Sea Fox
SS 405 USS Sea Owl
SS 406 USS Sea Poacher
SS 407 USS Sea Robin
SS 304 USS Seahorse
SS 315 USS Sealion

Comment 3:
In this day and age I'd rather serve on a USS Barb than a USS Hoe. :arrgh!:

Guys on the USS Flasher probably had a self-image problem too.
Are you aware of the British 'Insect' class gunboats? They had one called HMS Cockchafer.

[Snuffy]

I wouldn't mind a trip to the Atlantic for a shot or two at a good German capital boat ... er ... ship.

[Ducimus]

I wouldn't mind a trip to the Atlantic for a shot or two at a good German capital boat ... er ... ship.


One more reason why im waiting for this add on / expansion.
http://www.subsim.com/sh4/images/SH4Img@13-9-2007_16.53.43_421%20copy.jpg

Half of my work will be done for me :p

[-Pv-]

The Barbfish is a very successful preditor. Stealth and deceit.
-Pv-

[aanker]

Assigned to SubRon 50 in a gato that is!Thanks! I'm looking forward to this.

Art

[Rockin Robbins]

This game just gets better and better!:rock:

[Ducimus]

Just FYI, the main reason i created this thread, was to plant the seed of thought in other SH4 modders. If you think its a cool idea and want to create this for your mod, GO FOR IT! It doesnt have to be me that does it.

That said, i am going to work on this.. probably after the add on is released, but ill be doing it in my own way.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice idea Ducimus :up:


RDP

[Ducimus]

Heres some information ive been able to find:
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SubRon 50

- Participant in Operation Torch

-Between December 1942 and March 1943, the submarines searched for blockade runners out of neutral Spanish ports

-In April 43 , they patrolled off Norway, Iceland, and then the mid-Atlantic, searching for enemy U-boats and waiting in case the German surface fleet broke out from its Scandinavian bases.

-----------------
Tender:
USS Beaver (AS-5),

- On 3 September 1942, Beaver and six submarines formed SubRon 50 at New London,

- sometime on or after 1 Nov 42, arrived at the naval operating base at Rosneath, Scotland, near Glasgow, where she established a temporary submarine base for SubRon 50.
---------------------------

Six boats were assigned to SubRon 50. The following are the patrols done in the atlantic.

USS Barb (SS-220) - com. 8 July 1942

No: Captain: From: Date: Duration: Score (WT): JANAC Return:
1 John R. Waterman Roseneath 10/42 36 0/0 0/0 Roseneath
2 John R. Waterman Roseneath 12/42 31 0/0 0/0 Roseneath
3 John R. Waterman Roseneath 2/43 37 0/0 0/0 Roseneath
4 Nicholas Lucker, Jr. Roseneath 4/43 44 0/0 0/0 Roseneath
5 John R. Waterman Roseneath 6/43 41 0/0 0/0 Roseneath




USS Blackfish (SS-221) - Comm. 22 July 1942

No: Captain: From: Date: Duration: Score (WT): JANAC Return:
1 John F. Davidson Britain 10/42 37 0/0 0/0 Britain
2 John F. Davidson Britain 12/42 29 0/0 0/0 Britain
3 John F. Davidson Britain 2/43 22 0/0 0/0 Britain
4 John F. Davidson Britain 4/43 39 0/0 0/0 Britain
5 Eliot Olsen Britain 6/43 48 0/0 0/0 Britain


USS Herring (SS-233) - Comm. 4 May 1942

No: Captain: From: Date: Duration: Score (WT): JANAC Return:
1 Raymond W. Johnson Britain 10/42 35 1/7,000 0/0 Britain
2 Raymond W. Johnson Britain 12/42 58 0/0 0/0 Britain
3 John Corbus Britain 3/43 37 1/500 0/0 Britain
4 Raymond W. Johnson Britain 5/43 35 0/0 0/0 Britain
5 Raymond W. Johnson Britain 7/43 19 0/0 0/0 Britain


USS Shad (SS-235) - Comm. 12 June 1942

No: Captain: From: Date: Duration: Score (WT): JANAC Return:
1 Edgar J. MacGregor III Britain 10/42 35 0/0 0/0 Britain
2 Edgar J. MacGregor III Britain 12/42 44 2/600 0/0 Britain
3 Edgar J. MacGregor III Britain 3/43 37 0/0 0/0 Britain
4 Roland F. Pryce Britain 5/43 43 0/0 0/0 Britain
5 Edgar J. MacGregor III Britain 7/43 19 0/0 0/0 Britain


USS Gunnel (SS-253) - Comm. 20 August 1942

No: Captain: From: Date: Duration: Score (WT): JANAC Return:
1 John S. McCain, Jr. Britain 10/42 49 0/0 0/0 Britain



USS Gurnard (SS-254) - Comm 18 September 1942

No: Captain: From: Date: Duration: Score (WT): JANAC Return:
1 Charles H. Andrews Britain 11/42 30 0/0 0/0 Britain

[Torplexed]

Yeah...as you can see by the record they didn't find much to sink. Given the success US subs had in the Pacific sinking I-Boats I'm kinda surprised no U-Boats were ever caught by Gatos in the Atlantic. But then this was early on when US torpedoes were at their worst.

[clayton]

Right back at 'em...:up:

[Ducimus]

Yeah...as you can see by the record they didn't find much to sink. Given the success US subs had in the Pacific sinking I-Boats I'm kinda surprised no U-Boats were ever caught by Gatos in the Atlantic. But then this was early on when US torpedoes were at their worst.


Id hazzard a guess that they were mismanaged from higher up

Heres a quote from one of the links in the orginal post:

Each night we would receive orders to proceed to a point where German "milch cow" submarines were expected to refuel an attack boat. No visual or radar contacts were made. It also appeared we were going between these points out of sync. If we had been permitted to stay put one night we might have made contact.

[Ducimus]

Guess im gonna have to make a WIP thread in the mod forum pretty soon. :roll:

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/wip_atl_01.jpg
http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/wip_atl_02.jpg
http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/wip_atl_03.jpg
http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/wip_atl_04.jpg


Yes, i know the location isnt 100% correct. I used Firth of Clyde since it was the closest harbor to rosneath that currently exists in the game.

[hyperion2206]

Here's another idea:
Quite a few S boats were doin patrols on the east coast, carribean and the Panama Canal. Would be cool if that could be implemented although they achieved even less then SUBRON 50.

[Captain Vlad]

Man, talk about something different...definitely got my attention.

A Milch Cow or Type IX in the ol' periscope crosshairs would be very, very sweet...or shooting it out with some E-Boats...

[Angus89]

Would be very interesting to catch a milch cow refitting a u-boat at sea. Fire forward tubes, full spread.:hmm:

[Torplexed]

Would be very interesting to catch a milch cow refitting a u-boat at sea. Fire forward tubes, full spread.:hmm:
Would be cool to have a model of the Type 14 milch cow in either game. I commanded one in a modded scenario in SH2. The challenge was staying alive for more than a few days in one of those big sluggish tubs. :arrgh!: They could dive deep tho.