Illegals not welcome in Oklahoma...

[DeepIron]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/02/oklahoma.immigration/index.html

"They will not stay here if there are not taxpayer subsidies and they certainly won't stay here if they ever encounter one of our fine state and local law enforcement officials," he added. "They'll be physically detained -- until they're deported."

"It doesn't stop at illegal immigrants. The law also makes it a felony for U.S. citizens to knowingly provide shelter, transportation or employment to illegal immigrants."

Excellent! Track down and prosecute the traitors!

"Latino supporters are up in arms about the way the state now views illegal immigrants who have been here for many years."

So what? Can you say ILLEGAL? Just because you've been able to "duck and cover" for years doesn't lessen your crime. What don't these people understand about this?

"You are guilty of ethnic cleansing in this community! You are going against my community!" said the Rev. Miguel Rivera of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy.

Sorry dude... Separation of Church and State... Might want to check his citizenship background as well... And what's with this "my community" cr*p? Just another example of how the latinos continue to resist integration into the overall social fabric of America...

I can only hope other states will "grow some bolts" and follow the Okies example...:up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

read this a few weeks ago, but couldnt have said it better :up::rock::rock::rock:

KICK EM OUT:rock: :shifty:

[DeepIron]

read this a few weeks ago...
But now it's law... :up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

YEP i support the Mayors decision, Oklahoma has set an example that the federal and state government should do also!!!!:up::rock: someons is finally doing something about it :D

[JSLTIGER]

I have no problems with legal immigration to the U.S. As far as the illegals are concerned, by definition, they are not in this nation legally, and I don't see how anyone can offer them employment or recognition (i.e. the State of New York) given their illegal status. They should not be exempted from the rules.

Personally, I also think that if you're in a country where the predominant language is English, you should learn it. Given that the immigrants from the late 19th/early 20th century were required to learn English, I fail to see how modern immigrants should be treated any differently.

[DeepIron]

I have no problems with legal immigration to the U.S. As far as the illegals are concerned, by definition, they are not in this nation legally, and I don't see how anyone can offer them employment or recognition (i.e. the State of New York) given their illegal status. They should not be exempted from the rules.

This is what I simply do not understand. I'm not anti-immigration, like most, I'm against illegal immigration. If you want to be in the US, you gotta do the "immigration dance" and play by the rules.

Why do we treat these criminals with kid gloves? Why do we continue to turn a "blind eye" on businesses that break the law by offering employment to these people?

The answer of course, is simple, $$$ and greed. Businesses can exploit illegals to increase their bottom dollar. Of course, as we're now seeing, this exploitation is placing a heavy load on our social and health services because these people can't qualify for them in the "normal" way...

[Fish]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/02/oklahoma.immigration/index.html

"They will not stay here if there are not taxpayer subsidies and they certainly won't stay here if they ever encounter one of our fine state and local law enforcement officials," he added. "They'll be physically detained -- until they're deported."

"It doesn't stop at illegal immigrants. The law also makes it a felony for U.S. citizens to knowingly provide shelter, transportation or employment to illegal immigrants."

Excellent! Track down and prosecute the traitors!

"Latino supporters are up in arms about the way the state now views illegal immigrants who have been here for many years."

So what? Can you say ILLEGAL? Just because you've been able to "duck and cover" for years doesn't lessen your crime. What don't these people understand about this?

"You are guilty of ethnic cleansing in this community! You are going against my community!" said the Rev. Miguel Rivera of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy.

Sorry dude... Separation of Church and State... Might want to check his citizenship background as well... And what's with this "my community" cr*p? Just another example of how the latinos continue to resist integration into the overall social fabric of America...

I can only hope other states will "grow some bolts" and follow the Okies example...:up:

I guess your familie roots are native? :hmm:

[DeepIron]

I guess your familie roots are native? :hmm: C'mon Fish, don't even bother going there... It's a worn-out, baseless argument that really has no direct bearing on the current issue. This same "argument" gets thrown up time after time as some sort of *rationale* for illegal immigrants to be in the US. Everyone, with the exception of Native Americans, are immigrants to this country, my family included.

Again, the issue is not about immigration, it's about illegal immigration. :damn:

[Zayphod]

YEP i support the Mayors decision, Oklahoma has set an example that the federal and state government should do also!!!!:up::rock: someons is finally doing something about it :D

Yeah, allow me to add my <AOL> ME TOO! </AOL> to this idea.

Even if they get some judge to overturn some of this, they can still go after anyone giving aid and shelter to people who are in the country illegally.

Dry up the supply of "Why they come here" and they'll stop coming here. They'll all move to San Francisco instead.

[SUBMAN1]

The rest of states should do the same, since the Feds can't seem to do it.

-S

[Ducimus]

All im going to say is, its mighty disconcerting when one goes out for a bite to eat on a saturday afternoon, and at the local chinese fast food joint, 90% of the language spoke is spanish. I think i, and only one other person, spoke english; and that was the guy behind the counter. They may as well saw off this portion of the US on the map and give it back to mexico, we don't own it anymore.

[Happy Times]

Dont understand that some people dont see the difference between illegal and legal imigration.
Some profit from it but how many dollars go out of the country, any estimates?
You cant use race as an reason to kick them out but you can justify upholding the law and preserving your own culture.

[DeepIron]

Dont understand that some people dont see the difference between illegal and legal imigration.
That is what drives me nuts. The opponents to removing illegal immigrants constantly "blur" the distinction between legal and illegal, maufacturing all kinds of rationales to why these people "have a right" to be here. Everytime I watch, read or listen to these "confused" people, many of which are, of course, latino-based, I just shake my head...

I guess the "other thing" is that Americans have exacerbated the problem by "looking the other way" and exploiting illegal laborers... Now, the advocacy groups are saying, "oh, you screwed over illegals for years for your own gain and now you want them gone?"

[Tchocky]

Funny how we're seeing mostly non-border states enacting this kind of legislation, whereas places like California are expanding benefits.

[DeepIron]

Funny how we're seeing mostly non-border states enacting this kind of legislation, whereas places like California are expanding benefits. Non-border states are getting ahead of the curve I hope...

When the the border states "wake up and smell the quesadillas", realizing that their state tax supported social and health systems are going broke, and they start enacting stiffer laws like Oklahoma has done, there should be nowhere else to run to except back across the border for illegals...

[SUBMAN1]

...there should be nowhere else to run to except back across the border for illegals...That is exactly right!

-S

[El-Fish]

:o :o :o :o

This is a really really weird thread. I think I'll go back to the game forums. LOL

[Ducimus]

Funny how we're seeing mostly non-border states enacting this kind of legislation, whereas places like California are expanding benefits.

It's the foreign nationals involved in the local poltiics, and special intrest groups. You could say they've been using our own system against us for years now.

[Ducimus]

...there should be nowhere else to run to except back across the border for illegals...That is exactly right!

-S

Things get complicated when pregnant women run the border specriically to give birth in our country instead of their own. Pregnant woman is an illigeal alien, but now her kid is an instant US citizen.

[Tchocky]

Possibly the states which actually have to deal with immigration are the ones that must adopt realistic policies.
I mean, California is 35% Hispanic? (half-remembering here, i may be wrong)

I don't know so much about illegal immigration, but it does seem a little odd that seemingly common-sense measures are taken up by irrelevant states, as I see it.

[Iceman]

Joe for President...:up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88pHAcZnGU

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/crimedoesnotpay.jpg

at the end of this publication they need to add the pic of Sherrif Joe here waiting for them...
http://www.amren.com/mexguide/mexguide.html