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AdlerGrosmann
10-21-07, 01:27 PM
I tried this in the ubi forum, so I want to try it here and get some new opinion's up.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/9691075595 (Ubi poll)

Goose_green
10-21-07, 01:33 PM
SH3 all the way, tried SH4 - looks pretty but game play is severly lacking compared to SH3. Only time will tell with the 4th installment, but with GWX 1.04 eagerly awaited by everyone I think the life of SH3 has been extended and my interest in the game also.

Morts
10-21-07, 01:36 PM
i dont think we should do "wich is best" before we get something like GWX or NYGM for SHIV

robj250
10-21-07, 01:39 PM
Polls, and more polls. Do we get anything out of these?
Actually Aces of the Deep was the best.

Torplexed
10-21-07, 01:42 PM
Kinda unfair putting SH1 and SH2 up there given their relative age and dated graphics. And we already have a SH3 versus SH4 poll.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104374

What is this obsession with meaningless polls lately anyway?

AdlerGrosmann
10-21-07, 01:42 PM
Who really cares about polls? I don't. If you don't "CARE" about the poll then please don't post on the poll.:nope:

Jimbuna
10-21-07, 02:54 PM
Who really cares about polls? I don't. If you don't "CARE" about the poll then please don't post on the poll.:nope:
Well....speaking purely on a personal level, I wish I had a £ for every time I've seen this old chestnut come back up to the surface http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img105/4302/snoregb2.gif

I would also be obliged to you if you would refrain from being so rude to someone of a much senior age to yourself :yep:
You have posted a thread on a public forum and as such every member has an equal right to respond.....whether you agree with said response or not :know:

Sailor Steve
10-21-07, 03:13 PM
I don't see AOD on there, which is the original great U-boat subsim.

I can tell you which is the worst, though: SH2. As a game it was awful, until several mods saved it. As a multiplayer game it was better. As a sim nothing could save if from the 'scripted missions' curse.

Brag
10-21-07, 03:36 PM
Who really cares about polls? I don't. If you don't "CARE" about the poll then please don't post on the poll.:nope:
Well....speaking purely on a personal level, I wish I had a £ for every time I've seen this old chestnut come back up to the surface http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img105/4302/snoregb2.gif

I would also be obliged to you if you would refrain from being so rude to someone of a much senior age to yourself :yep:
You have posted a thread on a public forum and as such every member has an equal right to respond.....whether you agree with said response or not :know:

I agree with Jimbuna :smug:

Stealth Hunter
10-21-07, 11:41 PM
Silent Hunter 3.

Better FPS than SH4, better mods, better ships available, better execution, and actually finished upon release (though mods tune it to what we want, even though vanilla was fun).

NEXT

gdogghenrikson
10-22-07, 12:39 AM
SH3 is the best

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
10-22-07, 05:24 AM
NOT AGAIN! :damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:

Jimbuna
10-22-07, 06:07 AM
Silent Hunter 3.

Better FPS than SH4, better mods, better ships available, better execution, and actually finished upon release (though mods tune it to what we want, even though vanilla was fun).

NEXT

SH V perhaps :hmm:

NiclDoe
10-22-07, 06:20 AM
Lasagna Hunter!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Nah i just like SHIII. Its best with GWX.:up:

Uber Gruber
10-22-07, 07:48 AM
For me, its all about immersion, and the most immersion I ever had in a sub was playing Wolves At War with SH3 and NYGM).

Currently i'm playing around with SH4. looks pretty but its sevearly lacking in so many areas on the immersion front that i'm anticipating GWX 1.04 with RacerBoys and OneLifeCrisis mods.

MONOLITH
10-22-07, 08:13 AM
What makes the poll fairly worthless, is the answers will be different depending on which forum it's placed.

Ask in the SH3 forum, and SH3 will be labeled the best.

Ask in the SH4 forum, and SH4 will be labeled the best.

So it becomes a bit pointless.

Honestly, I like them both because they give me different things. Completely different feel/atmosphere. Sometimes I just feel like playing a German in the Atlantic, sometimes I don't.

SH4 got pushed out the door early as a business decision by Ubisoft. As I recall, SH3 was plagued with similar problems, and the community was in an uproar, until patches and modders caught up with the problems.

SH3 has a unique ambiance, and to this day there is amazing modding work being done to it. I have re-installed it simply because of Racerboys SH4 effects mod, and onelifecrisis' new gui tools.

Just like SH3, SH4 is being patched, and there is also some truly amazing modding going on with it. With 2 more years of technical advancement in gaming in general, it is actually the technically superior game, and it should not be criticised for 'framerates' simply because the game has moved up with current technology, while some gamers equipment has not.

I think both games should be respected for their various strengths, and the players of each, and their choices, should be respected as well.

Cheers.

Sailor Steve
10-22-07, 10:54 AM
Silent Hunter 3.

Better FPS than SH4, better mods, better ships available, better execution, and actually finished upon release (though mods tune it to what we want, even though vanilla was fun).

NEXT
Really? Do I need to point to the archives, containing dozens of threads and hundreds of posts on how awful SH3 was, and how awful UBI was for releasing it unfinished, and how awful the third patch was because it broke as many things as it fixed?

Selective memory is a wonderful thing.

ReallyDedPoet
10-22-07, 10:57 AM
Silent Hunter 3.

Better FPS than SH4, better mods, better ships available, better execution, and actually finished upon release (though mods tune it to what we want, even though vanilla was fun).

NEXT Really? Do I need to point to the archives, containing dozens of threads and hundreds of posts on how awful SH3 was, and how awful UBI was for releasing it unfinished, and how awful the third patch was because it broke as many things as it fixed?

Selective memory is a wonderful thing.

Well put SS :up: People do seem to have short memories sometimes.


RDP

Stealth Hunter
10-22-07, 02:24 PM
Silent Hunter 3.

Better FPS than SH4, better mods, better ships available, better execution, and actually finished upon release (though mods tune it to what we want, even though vanilla was fun).

NEXT
Really? Do I need to point to the archives, containing dozens of threads and hundreds of posts on how awful SH3 was, and how awful UBI was for releasing it unfinished, and how awful the third patch was because it broke as many things as it fixed?

Selective memory is a wonderful thing.

You're always going to have people who complain on the same subject. Vanilla SH3 with the fourth patch was great; it made the game fun, anyway. Perhaps people look in the wrong places and don't look past the bad?

Opinions are also a wonderful thing, but unfortunately we're just two guys sitting down on the Internet and typing this stuff up whilst our opinions will never really matter in the world, sadly.

That's life, though. You always have someone that disagrees with you, but although I may disagree with your post, I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

STEED
10-22-07, 02:27 PM
SH VII in 4D ;)

Stealth Hunter
10-22-07, 02:35 PM
Aces of the Deep > Silent Hunter

Don't get me wrong. SH was revolutionary for the time, but AotD was just more fun, in my opinion.

AdlerGrosmann
10-22-07, 05:37 PM
:hmm: That makes me think..how many submarine games are there & what are there names? All I know of is..


SilentHunter
SilentHunterII
SilentHunterIII
SilentHunterIV

DangerfromtheDeep


Anyone know all the names please tell them!:yep:

MONOLITH
10-22-07, 06:24 PM
I started on Janes688i.

Then had SH2, and never looked at anything but the SH series again. :up:

sunvalleyslim
10-22-07, 06:34 PM
SH3 with GWX............................The ultimate subsim so far..........:up::up::up:

AdlerGrosmann
10-22-07, 09:14 PM
:rock: The worst SH there could be is stock..(US) version that I know of...but the mods improve these games at least to my opinion a 99%!:yep: I never knew why we would need so many different mods like WAC when we have GWX..But I guess other people like them anyways, I only have 2 versions of SH3 (1 Stock 1.4b, other GWX103) I use stock for online, but GWX I use it for SP mostly.

Petsman
10-23-07, 08:35 AM
GWX 1.03 with SH3!

Sailor Steve
10-23-07, 11:06 AM
:hmm: That makes me think..how many submarine games are there & what are there names? All I know of is..


SilentHunter
SilentHunterII
SilentHunterIII
SilentHunterIV

DangerfromtheDeep


Anyone know all the names please tell them!:yep:
Aces Of The Deep (still considered to be the best by some)
Silent Service (Sid Meyer's classic, also thought the best by some)
Silent Service II (same)
Das Boot
Grey Wolf
The Hunt For Red October
Jane's 688i
Dangerous Waters
Sub Command

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but not even close to being all.

kiwi_2005
10-23-07, 11:59 AM
Silent hunter 4.

SH3 is getting a bit to old, you load up SH4 and take a look at the detail nothing beats it, sometimes i load up SH4 just to perv at it :rotfl:The only thing SH3 is still alive today and not dead is because of the modders, although some might say the same can be said about SH4 but even so i would still load up sh4 without no mods just to view the beauty of what ubisoft have created.

IMHO :up:

Jimbuna
10-23-07, 01:24 PM
Silent hunter 4.

SH3 is getting a bit to old, you load up SH4 and take a look at the detail nothing beats it, sometimes i load up SH4 just to perv at it :rotfl:The only thing SH3 is still alive today and not dead is because of the modders, although some might say the same can be said about SH4 but even so i would still load up sh4 without no mods just to view the beauty of what ubisoft have created.

IMHO :up:

Fair point :up: I like to ogle at the detail in SH4 too :yep:

I think your in for a pleasant suprise with the next release of GWX though ;)

AdlerGrosmann
10-23-07, 03:34 PM
:hmm: That makes me think..how many submarine games are there & what are there names? All I know of is..


SilentHunter
SilentHunterII
SilentHunterIII
SilentHunterIV

DangerfromtheDeep


Anyone know all the names please tell them!:yep:
Aces Of The Deep (still considered to be the best by some)
Silent Service (Sid Meyer's classic, also thought the best by some)
Silent Service II (same)
Das Boot
Grey Wolf
The Hunt For Red October
Jane's 688i
Dangerous Waters
Sub Command

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but not even close to being all.:hmm: Das Boot...The Hunt For Red October? :-? Didn't know they made these games after the movies... Alot of U-boat games I don't know of then..Must have been made a while back. Wish I could have them all:88)

Sailor Steve
10-23-07, 04:37 PM
http://www.subsim.com/images/dasboot1.jpg

From a list by Neal!
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/simhist.html

Jimbuna
10-23-07, 06:18 PM
I'm too embarassed to admit how many of them I can remember playing :oops:

AdlerGrosmann
10-23-07, 07:32 PM
:dead: I wonder how I'm gonna get em all for my submarine collection:smug: I love war..got all moh,cod,bia, and some others.. if it's world war I or II I love it!:rock: But there are SOOO many of them made, I don't know why they continue to make & sell MORE of them..it is such a terrorizing addiction buying all these war games lol:rotfl: :rotfl:

clayton
10-23-07, 09:02 PM
ACES OF THE DEEP

Better than any of them...

Iron Budokan
10-24-07, 12:09 AM
SH VII in 4D ;)

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Sailor Steve
10-24-07, 10:58 AM
I love war..
Really? I don't.

I like ships and planes, and games are fun, but one war was enough for me.

Jimbuna
10-24-07, 12:13 PM
I love war..
Really? I don't.

I like ships and planes, and games are fun, but one war was enough for me.

Well said that man :up:

Lest we forget :hmm:

AdlerGrosmann
11-01-07, 11:45 PM
:rock: I love war GAMES..not real war..nope not fun..people die. Unless I did you may love it..;)

Sailor Steve
11-02-07, 05:44 PM
:rock: I love war GAMES..not real war..nope not fun..people die.
I was pretty sure that was what you meant. I just wanted to say my piece.

Unless I did you may love it..;)
Never. I wouldn't even wish my worst enemies dead, and you certainly aren't one of them.:sunny:

frenema
11-02-07, 08:53 PM
I secretly wish/believe that SH4 is a failure because I know that I'm just going to stick with 3. :shifty:

seaniam81
11-03-07, 07:47 PM
AoD with it's expation pack, giving you the XXI. but Silent Hunter 1 commanders edition was great because it could run on any machine using windows under XP. I used to keep an ol P3 with win98 around just to play SH1

nikimcbee
11-03-07, 07:58 PM
I don't see AOD on there, which is the original great U-boat subsim.

I can tell you which is the worst, though: SH2. As a game it was awful, until several mods saved it. As a multiplayer game it was better. As a sim nothing could save if from the 'scripted missions' curse.


Steve, you are right on! The AI was awful! But I've got a formula for figuring out SH games:

SH(1) Good
SH2 bad
SH3 good
SH4 bad
SH5 follow the trend:rotfl:

It's a tough comparison, you can't beat the original:up:

Regarding the thread...
I care:roll:

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Frenssen
11-03-07, 09:08 PM
I voted SH3 because it was a great step forward in it`s day. SH4 has potential, but when you play play US boats with SJ/SD radar it`s a turkey shoot. You have to be really stupid to get get yourself killed.

capt-jones
01-02-08, 04:22 AM
;) nice try but no cigar if sh4 had been about u-boats and not pig ugly yankee subs ,then that would have had my vote, so its sh3 all the way for me ,unless they bring out an all singing all dancing sh5 complete with all compartments and human controlled Destroyers:smug:
:up: i aint gonna change from sh3 anyway gwx-2 will tie me over for this year no problem :roll: i hope ubi is taking a long look at gwx-2 before it makes its next subsim

gimpy117
01-02-08, 11:11 PM
....Who's house are you in?

WilhelmSchulz.
01-04-08, 12:11 AM
SHIII all the way! :rock:

STEED
01-04-08, 02:10 PM
All together now.............Boogie, boogie, boogie. :lol:

Jimbuna
01-04-08, 06:03 PM
All together now.............Boogie, boogie, boogie. :lol:

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