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elite_hunter_sh3

10-21-07, 12:55 PM

raiokennen wins formula one GP and the championship!!!! agaisnt all odds !! :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7055204.stm

1. K Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2. F Massa (Ferrari)
3. F Alonso (McLaren)
4. R Kubica (BMW Sauber)
5. N Rosberg (Williams)
Others:
7. L Hamilton (McLaren)

never liked hamilton....

Lap 71: Raikkonen cruises to title glory. What an effort from the Finn in the Ferrari. He wins at Interlagos and wins the championship.
Hamilton finishes second in the championship - a point behind the Finn.

Lap 68: Hamilton is 11 seconds behind Heidfeld. He needs something amazing.
Lap 67: Rosberg and Kubica enjoy a juicy battle, before Rosberg backs down. I think it's all over for Hamilton. Not a great week for British sport. Nevertheless, an outstanding effort by the young Briton over the whole season.

Bartolomeus

10-21-07, 01:02 PM

Kimi is the champion!!!!! Kimi rocks :rock: :rock:

Weigh-Man

10-21-07, 01:06 PM

I was rooting for Hamilton but it just wasn't to be, maybe next year, still a great effort for his rookie year.

I think Raikonen deserved it in the end even though I wish he would cheer up a bit, at least it wasn't Alonso

Happy Times

10-21-07, 01:18 PM

Yes it was best season for a long time, and a entertaining finale for it.:)
Next season is going to be interesting. Mika Häkkinen had said to the Finish media that its almost sure Fernando Alonso will leave Mercedes and Nico Rosberg will take his place. Alonso will most likely go back to Renault. I have big hopes for Kovalainen so pretty mixed feelings about that, maybe he should go to BMW and make me a very happy man.:D

XabbaRus

10-21-07, 02:13 PM

After it has all ended Kimi one and glad for him. Given my rooting for Hamilton glad Kimi one and not Alonso.

Saying that Hamilton made an amazing drive after his engine went ga ga for a bit.

Jimbuna

10-21-07, 02:27 PM

Well done Kimi :up:
What a first time effort by Hamilton though :rock:

Syxx_Killer

10-21-07, 02:38 PM

What an amazing race! It was a nail biter all the way through. I was on the edge of my seat for the most of it. I am glad to see Kimi win. He deserved it. I was originally hoping Alonso would take it but if not Alonso, I'm glad Kimi took the title. This is the best F1 race I have ever watched. I felt sorry for Massa the most, though. All he wanted was to win his home race.

Hitman

10-21-07, 02:40 PM

IMHO after all the rubbish situation in McLaren, this was probably the most fair outcome possible.

Lewis & Alonso, neither of them deserved this year's title as neither played completely clean with the other. Dennis didn't help much and was too arrogant, he thought he could mantain well his policy of two 1st drivers of the past, neglecting that one of this year's drivers was a rookie, and it was finally a rookie error what made Lewis lose the title. How sad Ron must be now, and how stupid he must feel.

Kimi: What can be said about him? Probably the most talented and fastest of all, in his heydays nobody can come close, no matter if he drives a Ferrari or a McLaren. A well deserved champion, never involved in polemics and silent but quietly hammering his title with wins.

I have been a Kimi (And in general of finish drivers) fan since long, and I am very happy that his share of bad luck has ended. Also, I love to see that a driver with a somehow bad-guy attitude, a party goer and smoker makes raw talent suceed in an era of athletes and drivers nursened to be champions from the most early ages.

A wellcomed breath of fresh air into F1 :up:

CONGRATS CHAMPION :rock:

Sulikate

10-21-07, 02:51 PM

Great job Kimi :arrgh!:
He really deserved to win this championship (after being second place twice :dead:)
:rock:

XabbaRus

10-21-07, 03:00 PM

Um I'd have to say that had Hamilton had won it he would have deserved it and he played more fair than Alonso. Didn't hear Hamilton go off to the press when he wasn't happy.

As for the Rookie error, yep trying to regain position on Alonso when he didn't have to was silly, but his engine would probably have still gone ga ga. It was that which did him in. See his drive back up the grid to see how it could have ended had his engine not gone ga ga.

Syaing that the day is done and Kimi won which I feel he did deserve to.

lesrae

10-21-07, 03:00 PM

I'm glad Kimi won over Alonso, but what the heck does it take to make him crack a smile?

It'd have been good to see Hamilton win, but I think he was too eager to beat Alonso at the start. If he hadn't gone off the track he might have survived his engine troubles and won the championship.

Sixpack

10-21-07, 03:08 PM

Really 3 jerkoffs these boys, but relatively glad Raikkonen won.

Hamilton: Personally dont need another Tiger woods type.

Alonso: Good thing this prima donna lost.

Anyway, when I want to watch F1 (not often), I play FIA season reviews 1967 until 1996 and 2000 (first Shumi). 90 minutes exactly packs all the 'action' of a whole F1 season. All else I consider a waste of time in this respect.

Jimbuna

10-21-07, 03:51 PM

I'm glad Kimi won over Alonso, but what the heck does it take to make him crack a smile?

A bad case of wind :lol:

KrvKpt. Falke

10-21-07, 04:19 PM

raiokennen wins formula one GP and the championship!!!!

1. K Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2. F Massa (Ferrari)
3. F Alonso (McLaren)
4. R Kubica (BMW Sauber)
5. N Rosberg (Williams)
Others:
7. L Hamilton (McLaren)

never liked hamilton....
Should be:
...
4. N Rosberg (Williams)
5. R Kubica (BMW Sauber)
...

The race was great, but camera operators were on drugs or something:nope:
They were showing everything (and too much of Hamilton) except where the action was (most of great moments of this race were shown on replays:roll:).

Anyway im glad Ferrari won this season.

Happy Times

10-21-07, 04:44 PM

I'm glad Kimi won over Alonso, but what the heck does it take to make him crack a smile?

A bad case of wind :lol:

That must be it, he smiled last year in Interlagos.

Kimi Raikkonen tells the world of his waste depositing exercise during the presentations by Pele to Michael Schumacher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296Y10QcAs8

But his attitude is very common in Finland, very reserved att all times except when we start to drink. Anyone remember when Räikkönen waved his penis in a strip bar?:lol:

Hitman

10-21-07, 05:01 PM

Uhhh looks like it might be not yet over :o

FIA is currently investigating three cars (2 BMW and 1 williams) because of apparent minimum fuel temperature matters and Lewis could get the championship in the end. :shifty: *Sigh* if they hand the championship to a guy wo is running on a cheating car (With illegally obtained Ferrari info) using an excuse that three guys had cheated when finishing in fron of him, now that will be really the end. Ridicuolus.

Didn't hear Hamilton go off to the press when he wasn't happy.

No need for that. The british press already went hunting witches by its own (As usual) and daddy Hamilton, Dennis and Ecclestone ensured well the FIA ruled out always in benefot of the golden boy. I'm not questioning his talent, it's obvious he is very fast (Probably faster than Alonso) but it is also obvious everybody in the business wants him to win, and for business reasons.

KrvKpt. Falke

10-21-07, 05:02 PM

Kimi Raikkonen tells the world of his waste depositing exercise during the presentations by Pele to Michael Schumacher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296Y10QcAs8
Now i like him even more:rotfl:

Prof

10-21-07, 05:03 PM

Hold on there, Ferrari fans...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63547
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/7023.html

It seems like it's not over yet, the FIA have one more trick up their sleeve to hand Hamilton the title :shifty:

Update...the irregularities are confirmed:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63557

stabiz

10-21-07, 07:02 PM

Happy Times

10-21-07, 09:18 PM

Kovalainen knows how to celebrate when he wins.;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9DHCEISlWg&mode=related&search=

Jimbuna

10-22-07, 03:51 AM

Yup, but no penalty is awarded. Kimi is still champ!

This has to be the best race I have ever seen. I would almost prefer being DC`ed over suffering this nail-biter once more.:rotfl:

Formula 1 is #1.

Even as a Brit, I would not have wanted to see somebody win or lose a championship title by default :nope:

Prof

10-22-07, 04:41 AM

Yup, but no penalty is awarded. Kimi is still champ!For the moment...

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=41157

This is ridiculous. McLaren should take it like men and get over it.

stabiz

10-22-07, 05:29 AM

:nope: You seem to forget a man called Ron Dennis.

Steel_Tomb

10-22-07, 06:01 AM

Why is everyone shunning Hamilton? I feel sorry for the lad as he put he all into the title race this season, and was much more mature than alonso was when things didn't go to plan. "they wanted him to win for buissness reasons", perhaps so, or maybe they just wanted to see a British lad hold the championship for once??! The way some people are going on its as if theres some global conspiricy to give hamilton the title!

Godalmighty83

10-22-07, 07:15 AM

just imagine the sh!t storm if it was alonso who had a gearbox fault, here would be on TV declaring sabotage while spain would be readying a invasion fleet to take woking.

hamilton did very very well this season, which put a lot of peoples noses out as it was expected he would be thrashed by alonso.

people dont like succesful people, it makes us jealous and bitter.

Hitman

10-22-07, 07:26 AM

The way some people are going on its as if theres some global conspiricy to give hamilton the title!

Well, there is one :) You just need to see the criteria used by the FIA when it goes about penalizing Alonso or Hamilton :roll:

Don't get me wrong, Alonso has whined a lot (Too much for my taste, as even if all he says is true, he should have accepted and got over it like a man and then move to another team acting like a true professional) and Hamilton has been incredibly quick. But he has been obviously favoured by the press, Dennis and the FIA, even if he and Alonso competed on an equal basis. And I never have liked to feed whatever the media want me to, but instead I prefer to have my own criteria.

And that criteria is: Kimi is the champ! Well deserved!! :rock:

KrvKpt. Falke

10-22-07, 07:28 AM

He fought and he have lost. It's simple.
What makes people angry (except British;) ) is those big fishes trying to make Hamilton the next Schumacher. If he is great driver (he is) then he will make great career in F1 without such "help".

STEED

10-22-07, 08:06 AM

What a farce by the race stewards not to punish Williams and BMW for fuel irregularities, rules are rules. McLaren will push the matter and the chances of any punishment are slim as we all know the FIA and Ferrari sleep in the same bed. I'm angry not because Hamilton is British and if the decision goes his way he will be the world champion. It's the fact the rules are being bent and this for me is not playing the game. The FIA are very quick to throw the book at McLaren but when it comes to other teams it's a different matter.

During the race Hamilton made a mistake attacking Alonso and paid the price as for the other matter of his engine sputtering for 30 to 40 seconds which knocked him down the field was a pure technical matter. Don't get me wrong I am not sticking up for McLaren who made a massive blunder in China not getting Hamiton in for a tyre change much earlier, I'm not even knocking Kimi Raikkonen who drove well. If McLaren fail in there appeal I for one will have lost all faith in the FIA and the rules.

Prof

10-22-07, 08:48 AM

What a farce by the race stewards not to punish Williams and BMW for fuel irregularities, rules are rules. McLaren will push the matter and the chances of any punishment are slim as we all know the FIA and Ferrari sleep in the same bed. I'm angry not because Hamilton is British and if the decision goes his way he will be the world champion. It's the fact the rules are being bent and this for me is not playing the game. The FIA are very quick to throw the book at McLaren but when it comes to other teams it's a different matter.According to the latest information, the FIA don't actually have enough evidence to punish BMW or Williams. The FIA's 'official' ambient temperature differed from the temperature recorded by the teams' meteorologists. There also appears to be some doubt as to whether the fuel temperature recorded by the FIA was representative of the actual fuel temperature in the car. It looks like the FIA can't actually police this particular article of the regulations, hence they cannot punish BMW or Williams.

Hitman

10-22-07, 08:54 AM

What a farce by the race stewards not to punish Williams and BMW for fuel irregularities, rules are rules.

Oh come on! The whole season (And the one before, and the previous, and the previous...) we are seeing how the rules are custom tailored to whoever they prefer. How is it possible that Hamilton and Alonso were allowed to fight for the title when racing in a car that was CHEATING because of having secret info from the rival? How is it possible that the team cheats and the racer has no benefit from that?

F1 lost all credibility long ago, it's sad but true. What a pity that I can't get to see ChampCar and IRL here in Spain, otherwise I would not bother seeing F1 races.

STEED

10-22-07, 09:05 AM

FIA and Ferrari sleep in the same bed.

As I said above stands I for one want to see a big shake up of the corrupt FIA but I know it will never happen as money is power and power is corruption.

Burn in Hell FIA :hulk:

Godalmighty83

10-22-07, 12:18 PM

[quote]Hamilton and Alonso were allowed to fight for the title when racing in a car that was CHEATING because of having secret info from the rival?.

the car was scrutinized and was found to have no ferrari IP. not forgetting the whole thing started because a ferrari guy was unhappy about the team cheating during the first grand prix a team that probably would carried on with it knowingly if he hadn't blown the whistle.

neither teams can hold there heads high this season.

STEED

10-22-07, 12:35 PM

neither teams can hold there heads high this season.

I agree. :yep:

The FIA are a disgrace and they will continual to drive this sport in to the murky world of corruption.

Jimbuna

10-22-07, 12:46 PM

I take it your not interested in subscribing to the Bernie Ecclestone Appreciation Society then ? :hmm:

:lol:

Happy Times

10-22-07, 02:28 PM

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1739/raikkonenve0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Penelope_Grey

10-22-07, 03:13 PM

Something smells bad with this Hamilton schtick if ya asks me and the investigation.... I reckon for whatever reason the FIA want him to be champ... maybe for media relations? Cause he is a young black rookie?

or, maybe its because a lot of big people invested big bucks in him and all their money went down the chute?

In any case, good on Raikonnen.

(how do I know about F1, I kinda got into it, with my dad and brother watching it loads)

antikristuseke

10-22-07, 04:09 PM

Looks like i picked abloody good race to miss *sigh* women and this dating nonsense:shifty:
Anyway good for Kimi that he took the championship, was well deserved, tough luck for Hamilton with the echanical difficulties, but he will be a champ sooner or later. Alonso and his whiny spoiled atitude can go burn in hell:stare:.
As for the whole season, it has been draped in shame. The whole Ferrari McLaren business has been a farce since if one would follow the letter of the rule both should have been penalized just the same. The fuel temperature irregularity has been explained by someone prior to my post and was the right call by stewards. Hope to download the race soon so i can see for myself, from what i hear from the lads i sualy watch races with it was great.
For next season im mainly looking to see a better performance out of Kubica, currently my favorite driver in the series, though not really a title pretendent this year. Allso hope to see Marko Asmer behind the wheel of one of those F1 machines in the next few seasons, though it is unlikely it will be the coming one.

XabbaRus

10-22-07, 04:44 PM

Well Hamilton is saying he doesn't want to win by default. Fair enough. I also don't want to see that. Kimi scored most points due to a combination of very good driving and Hamilton's bad luck.

Hamilton has next year to think about.

Hitman I know you and I are at the opposite ends in that I like Hamilton and you support Alonso but having looked at other news sources ie non UK ones, Alonso didn't do himself any favours with the comments he made this year.

Jimbuna

10-22-07, 04:49 PM

Gotta agree (#21) :yep:

Skybird

10-22-07, 05:04 PM

I am not really a fan of Raikkonen, all I like is that he does not play the endless silly stupid say-nothing-in-a-lot-of-dumb-words-reporter-games, but somehow I expected some fate in his favour. Of the three, I would rate him to be a real "iceman" in cockpit, and I must admit I do not like Alonso. I find him very arrogant.

However, it was Alonso saying in an intervie with Spanish radio that it would be a bad idea to try to hand the championship to Hamilton at the green table, that would be a great damage to the sports. but while this could be noble indeed, it also could mean that in fact he was only firing a final broadside against McLaren, whom he wishes to leave after a catastrophic season.

I think the future will be Hamilton's. And it would not be undeserved if he carries on like he hast started.

It could likely have been the last season for the champ's (there is only one champ, remember! :D ) brother remaining on the circuit, ralph Schumacher. He never met the high expectation, not in this and not in previous years. He failed in the decisive things that his brother succeeded in: to form a team around him, to prepare them and himself, to train for victory. Only big comments, and finger-pointing at others. as a german newspaper headlined a story on him: "Overpayed, overrated, overtaken". I would not miss him. It seems the teams currently think the same.

VipertheSniper

10-22-07, 05:05 PM

Was it just me or was Alonso lucky up there on the podium, that Hamilton didn't take the title? Sure looked like that, but maybe I'm just interpreting too much into this whole affair at McClaren between Alonso and Hamilton.

I would've loved to see Hamilton take the title ON THE TRACK, but Kimi deserved it just as much, after finishing second in the WC twice before.

If I were Hamilton I'd probably tell the people at McClaren to let it be, and not go on about this whole fuel temperature stuff, but I guess there's too much money involved for this move to go well with the team.

Skybird

10-22-07, 05:08 PM

:up: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1739/raikkonenve0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:up: :yep: :lol: :lol: :lol: Iceman, as I said! :rotfl:

VipertheSniper

10-22-07, 05:09 PM

Syxx_Killer

10-22-07, 06:42 PM

It could likely have been the last season for the champ's (there is only one champ, remember! :D ) brother remaining on the circuit, ralph Schumacher. He never met the high expectation, not in this and not in previous years. He failed in the decisive things that his brother succeeded in: to form a team around him, to prepare them and himself, to train for victory. Only big comments, and finger-pointing at others. as a german newspaper headlined a story on him: "Overpayed, overrated, overtaken". I would not miss him. It seems the teams currently think the same.
This reminds me of a very funny interview on Speed Channel here in the States. During the Acura prerace show, all the drivers were asked what their best moment during this season was. When they got to Ralph I had to laugh. He couldn't come up with anything. He just stood there and basically all he said was, "Uhh...". :lol:

Jimbuna

10-23-07, 04:21 AM

:up: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1739/raikkonenve0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:up: :yep: :lol: :lol: :lol: Iceman, as I said! :rotfl:

Looks like the ice is melting in that last shot :lol:

elite_hunter_sh3

10-23-07, 11:02 PM

i think its pathetic that mclaren and FIA even brought it up.. "affirmative action":roll: soon they are going to be saying "racism!!!" over and over because hamilton didnt win...:roll: but i still think Kimi derserved it.. he won 6 races and alonso and hamilton won 4 each..

:rock::rock::rock: good for him!!:()1: