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who closed the Pope thread?
TteFAboB
10-19-07, 12:18 PM
Does the pope **** in the woods?
Hakahura
10-19-07, 12:21 PM
:damn:
Weigh-Man
10-19-07, 12:57 PM
erm! The Mods:|\\
It was getting somewhat nasty in there
:damn:
Don't worry mate, if we can flood this topic with enough sillyness, it'll implode and explode in loss of sensibility.
No flaming on my watch, it's humour all the way, and that's an order mensch unt frauleins! (Excuse my awful German) :yep:
Takeda Shingen
10-19-07, 02:58 PM
Neal Stevens, owner and site administrator, closed the thread. I also would have done it, as the behavior exhibited within was well outside the perameters of what is acceptable at SubSim. This procedure is clearly outlined in the acceptable use and moderator policies.
The Management
They rolled a rock in front of it, but it will be back in three days :p
I for one thought the picture that Avon Lady posted of Israeli jets flying over Auschwitz (what she really meant by "most hated place") was very cool and i'd like to see it again (and larger sized).
Kapitan_Phillips
10-19-07, 04:57 PM
They rolled a rock in front of it, but it will be back in three days :p
:rotfl:
Onkel Neal
10-19-07, 04:59 PM
I did. To protect the guilty.
bradclark1
10-19-07, 06:21 PM
I for one thought the picture that Avon Lady posted of Israeli jets flying over Auschwitz (what she really meant by "most hated place") was very cool and i'd like to see it again (and larger sized).
Yep. If you reread the thread and look at the picture you will see "which happens to be your country," that an 'in' was inadvertently missing between 'be' and 'your'. The thread then makes sense. She wasn't insulting Poland.
I for one thought the picture that Avon Lady posted of Israeli jets flying over Auschwitz (what she really meant by "most hated place") was very cool and i'd like to see it again (and larger sized).
Yep. If you reread the thread and look at the picture you will see "which happens to be your country," that an 'in' was inadvertently missing between 'your' and 'country'. The thread then makes sense. She wasn't insulting Poland.
Yes I see now, and AL was right, that was an evil place....:nope:
Only one i could find.
http://www.israel-catalog.com/upload/product/10494_1.jpg
Skybird
10-20-07, 05:08 AM
Obviously Syrian radar is not the only one the IAF occasionally plays tricks on! :D
KrvKpt. Falke
10-20-07, 06:27 AM
I for one thought the picture that Avon Lady posted of Israeli jets flying over Auschwitz (what she really meant by "most hated place") was very cool and i'd like to see it again (and larger sized).
Yep. If you reread the thread and look at the picture you will see "which happens to be your country," that an 'in' was inadvertently missing between 'your' and 'country'. The thread then makes sense. She wasn't insulting Poland.
Maybe you are right; maybe there is "in" missing, but even if she didn't insult Poland in her last post- Kranz was insulting Jews and Israel; they both used words that as adults they shouldnt use.
Besides: the thread was about "JPII returning" not about antisemitism and israeli-polish relations (such thread could be interesting but not with attitude of AL and kranz).
She has insulted me personally by saying "the same scum", she has insulted Poland-it doesn't matter "in" or no "in" coz my Location is visible for all.I had to counterattack.That's all
Skybird
10-20-07, 09:26 AM
You get as much as you give.
antikristuseke
10-20-07, 09:56 AM
She has insulted me personally by saying "the same scum", she has insulted Poland-it doesn't matter "in" or no "in" coz my Location is visible for all.I had to counterattack.That's all
There are ways to reply without resolting to insults.
You get as much as you give.
Dig that.
Takeda Shingen
10-20-07, 10:23 AM
Attack and counter attack at your own risk.
The Management
She has insulted me personally by saying "the same scum", she has insulted Poland-it doesn't matter "in" or no "in" coz my Location is visible for all.I had to counterattack.That's all
Now I must admit, I'm no huge fan of many of Israel's military actions, and I don't always agree with what Avon Lady says either, but when you start touting David Irving, as you did in that thread, thus revealing your Nazi sympathies, then you could be damn sure that I, and indeed most other people, would come down on AL's side. She did indeed insult you, but she didn't (intentionally) insult Poland, IT WAS A TYPO! You might be from Poland, but you do not represent Poland, and neither do your stupid pro-Nazi leanings.
Try reading about these people: http://ww2-aviation.net/polavhist/bob.html
When you start touting that Irving nonsense, you might as well go and p*ss all over their memorial.
:D Chock
She has insulted me personally by saying "the same scum", she has insulted Poland-it doesn't matter "in" or no "in" coz my Location is visible for all.I had to counterattack.That's all
Now I must admit, I'm no huge fan of many of Israel's military actions, and I don't always agree with what Avon Lady says either, but when you start touting David Irving, as you did in that thread, thus revealing your Nazi sympathies, then you could be damn sure that I, and indeed most other people, would come down on AL's side. She did indeed insult you, but she didn't (intentionally) insult Poland, IT WAS A TYPO! You might be from Poland, but you do not represent Poland, and neither do your stupid pro-Nazi leanings.
Try reading about these people: http://ww2-aviation.net/polavhist/bob.html
When you start touting that Irving nonsense, you might as well go and p*ss all over their memorial.
:D Chock
Well said Chock.
Chock-I encourage you to read the introduction of Hitler's War by Irving.Only the introduction-he explains "his" problem there.My-as you called them-"stupid pro-Nazi leanings" has nothing to do with respect to soldiers who fought in II WW.My great-grandfather was in polish army and was killed on 3rd September 1939 and and the second one was in Wehrmacht from 1941 to 1945.But as I said-I respect every soldier-even Red Army despite the fact I hate communism. "you might as well go and p*ss all over their memorial"- I thought that we had ended the pi*sing part?
Skybird
10-20-07, 01:05 PM
When Dowly was sent to the Brig and the new thread on Ferret asked when he will return, it was shut down.
The pope thread derailed into the mess for which it was shut down. But different to the questions about Dowly, this new thread now asking why the pope thread was closed - was not shut down, although it should have been clear from the beginning where it is heading.
I fail to see the guiding principle here. I would have closed all the three threads - or none of them.
:nope:
Happy Times
10-20-07, 01:24 PM
Chock-I encourage you to read the introduction of Hitler's War by Irving.Only the introduction-he explains "his" problem there.My-as you called them-"stupid pro-Nazi leanings" has nothing to do with respect to soldiers who fought in II WW.My great-grandfather was in polish army and was killed on 3rd September 1939 and and the second one was in Wehrmacht from 1941 to 1945.But as I said-I respect every soldier-even Red Army despite the fact I hate communism. "you might as well go and p*ss all over their memorial"- I thought that we had ended the pi*sing part?
The fact remains that you said anti-semitic comments. Can you tell what you generally think of the Jews? And AL had a point about the anti semitism in Poland during the war and after.
Gentlemen (And Ladies) let's not get into this again. You know how this will end, let us not go there, right?
The Avon Lady
10-20-07, 01:59 PM
Just a clarification: when I refered in the original thread to one of the evilest places in the world, I was referring to Auschwitz - not to the country Poland. The picture that accompanied that comment of mine was of 2 Israeli F15's in a fly-over above Auschwitz in 2003.
And now, I leave this thread. Note Israel's blue and white flag still in my sig. I just wanna piss off some folks. :yep:
Happy Times
10-20-07, 02:11 PM
Just a clarification: when I refered in the original thread to one of the evilest places in the world, I was referring to Auschwitz - not to the country Poland. The picture that accompanied that comment of mine was of 2 Israeli F15's in a fly-over above Auschwitz in 2003.
And now, I leave this thread. Note Israel's blue and white flag still in my sig. I just wanna piss off some folks. :yep:
Blue and white is cool.:D
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2859/440afinlandiayw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Avon Lady
10-20-07, 02:19 PM
Blue and white is cool.:D
Yeh but you gotta get the right geometric shape in it to do the pissing off. :p
Takeda Shingen
10-20-07, 02:20 PM
When Dowly was sent to the Brig and the new thread on Ferret asked when he will return, it was shut down.
The pope thread derailed into the mess for which it was shut down. But different to the questions about Dowly, this new thread now asking why the pope thread was closed - was not shut down, although it should have been clear from the beginning where it is heading.
I fail to see the guiding principle here. I would have closed all the three threads - or none of them.
:nope:
Oh, it is so very simple, Skybird. Go to the SubSim Review comments forum and read the Brig and Keelhauling FAQs. In it, it is specfically stated that petitions and pleas regarding banning will not be tolerated. It is clearly stated. The Dowly thread was heading in that direction.
Now, there is no stated regulation regarding the question of why X thread was closed. Accordingly, this thread may remain open, so long as we refrain from calling people names and antagonizing each other. Thus far, we are okay. Furthermore, this is giving people an opportunity to clear the air, and to correct members so that they may behave according to the rules, preventing future lockings and bannings in the process. This helps to improve the overall quality of the postings on SubSim.
There's more to moderating than locking threads, you know. However, if the discussion degenerates, you may have your wish.
Skybird
10-20-07, 03:03 PM
Well said, Oberon. The only valuable contribution in this thread.
Happy Times-please reread both treads.You will get a clear answer.I'm not going to start an argue any more.If I confessed you what I think I would probably joined Dowly.And-I appologise you for the "shotgun & brain" comment it Pope thread.I was pis*ed off. I'm waiting for Chock's response in Irving's case unless some Mod closes this thread.(I hope they won't)
AL- I know what you meant-and don't give me **** right now.Btw-you got a very specific way of evaluating-why other conc.camps aren't as evil as Auschwitz? How about Dachau(Germany), Riga(Estonia) etc.Why they aren't so bad?
The Avon Lady
10-21-07, 04:03 AM
AL- I know what you meant-and don't give me **** right now.
SUFFAH!
Btw-you got a very specific way of evaluating-why other conc.camps aren't as evil as Auschwitz? How about Dachau(Germany), Riga(Estonia) etc.Why they aren't so bad?
I never said the others were any less evil. I was not the first one to bring up the subject of Auschwitz nor of disdain for Israel's flag. Try placing things in the context they were written in or do you revise 4 day old topics like you revise holocaust history?
Kapitan_Phillips
10-21-07, 05:00 AM
Jesus wept, why do things get to hostile so fast?! Take your little damn tiffs to PM!
AL-the word "evilest" means "the most evil".While saying this you were probably aware of the existence of several Conc.camps all over the Europe. By saying "evilest" you made an evaluation:this was the most evil.As simple as ABC. The same question why auschwitz was the evilest? Maybe because of "Polish crew" ?
I was never revising the Holocaust history-I've only mentioned Irving's theory which DOES NOT question the Holocaust existence.
The Avon Lady
10-21-07, 05:26 AM
AL-the word "evilest" means "the most evil".While saying this you were probably aware of the existence of several Conc.camps all over the Europe. By saying "evilest" you made an evaluation:this was the most evil.As simple as ABC. The same question why auschwitz was the evilest? Maybe because of "Polish crew" ?
Only one problem, fool. Go back to the locked thread and you will find my exact words were: "flying over one of the evilest places in history".
Comprende?
Enough of this.Mr. Mod-I demand that you punish AL.I don't care how.This is the second time she insulted me PERSONALLY.If you don't-you'd better ban me coz I'm going to pay her off.
The Avon Lady
10-21-07, 05:59 AM
Enough of this.Mr. Mod-I demand that you punish AL.I don't care how.This is the second time she insulted me PERSONALLY.If you don't-you'd better ban me coz I'm going to pay her off.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2903/scaredot0.jpg
The Avon Lady- JUST STFU!
oh man:rotfl:
im gonna go grab my self some popcorn
anybody else want some ?:rotfl: :rotfl:
The Avon Lady
10-21-07, 06:31 AM
The Avon Lady- JUST STFU!
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5294/frankie20sticking20her2rd5.jpg
Skybird
10-21-07, 06:46 AM
See, the latest exchange is why I say it was a stupid idea to let this second thread continue at the point where the first (pope) thread was locked. Kranz neither knows the limits, nor cares for the appropriate tone and wording neither there, nor here. If one canot see that this second thread was meant as a provocation, I cannot help it.
Takeda Shingen
10-21-07, 07:00 AM
Sorry for the delay. I was doing small things, like sleeping, eating and occassionally using the bathroom. PMs on the way.
Onkel Neal
10-21-07, 11:58 AM
Thanks, Tak.
Avon Lady 10 days in the Brig for "I just wanna piss off some folks." It's woprking. Every time there's a fire in GT I see you standing in a pile of burned matches. I thought for a moment you had mastered the situation by pointing out you meant "Auschwitz", not Poland in general, but you had to follow up by calling Kranze a "fool".
Kranz 10 days in the Brig for "JUST STFU!" and "you'd better ban me coz I'm going to pay her off." whatever the hell that means... it sounds like a threat, so don't pick up where you left off when you return, mate.
We don't like to lock threads or ban members, and we recognize some new members will come into the Subsim forum and still act the way folks act in many other Internet forums--harsh, rude, and excessively sarcastic. The first time in the Brig should make it clear, we mean to keep a civil
Tak took the right action closing the Ferret thread. Usually with a first offense the Brig is meant to be taken lightly, as a friendly warning. It's our way of saying, "Hey, that's not allowed, but we undertand everyone makes mistakes. So, grab a potato peeler and we'll save your seat for you." In those cases, we don't mind a playful protest.
In Dowly's case, he has been warned and warned, and warned on numerous occasions. I've asked him as a friend not to lose his cool, but he keeps winding up in the Brig. And this latest episode was way over the line. What he did is not funny, at all. If you are one of Dowly's mates, I suggest you turn that petition energy into working with Dowly and getting the point across that we (you, me, and everyone on this forum) will not accept multiple obscenity-laced posts just because Dowly gets angry.
I've e-mailed him twice, he's more unhappy with his meltdown that he is with his ban. Let it be.
thanks,
Neal
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