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STEED
10-16-07, 12:51 PM
Drink to much then your Middle Class!!! :huh: Middle Class what is that? I for one will never recognize this rubbish about upper middle and lower or working class it's trash. Moving on, they should be asking why do people drink to much? Its far to easy to say people are drinking to much without finding out what are the reasons, it's more easy to say England is full of heavy drinkers?


http://itn.co.uk/news/97e5c00204820fa4400892b8763b211b.html (http://itn.co.uk/news/97e5c00204820fa4400892b8763b211b.html)

bookworm_020
10-17-07, 12:02 AM
God help England if they win the world rugby cup!:huh::()1::()1::()1:

kiwi_2005
10-17-07, 12:07 AM
Only classes i recognise is Noob class, L33t class and Uber class:lol:

Happy Times
10-17-07, 05:47 AM
Drink to much then your Middle Class!!! :huh: Middle Class what is that? I for one will never recognize this rubbish about upper middle and lower or working class it's trash. Moving on, they should be asking why do people drink to much? Its far to easy to say people are drinking to much without finding out what are the reasons, it's more easy to say England is full of heavy drinkers?


http://itn.co.uk/news/97e5c00204820fa4400892b8763b211b.html (http://itn.co.uk/news/97e5c00204820fa4400892b8763b211b.html)

Looking from outside, England is the most heavily classed society in Europe.

STEED
10-17-07, 06:02 AM
Looking from outside, England is the most heavily classed society in Europe.

Well I am one of the few who will never recognize this clap trap class system, or to put it another way I want nothing to do with this discrimination.

Captain Nemo
10-17-07, 07:21 AM
Well I am one of the few who will never recognize this clap trap class system, or to put it another way I want nothing to do with this discrimination.

Steed, I always thought you were an outright Tory, but you are beginning to sound like a communist:hmm: .

Nemo

STEED
10-17-07, 07:31 AM
Well I am one of the few who will never recognize this clap trap class system, or to put it another way I want nothing to do with this discrimination.

Steed, I always thought you were an outright Tory, but you are beginning to sound like a communist:hmm: .

Nemo

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No way :rotfl:

As for the three main party's they all stink and I would not vote for any of them.

AntEater
10-17-07, 07:34 AM
Middle class England?
Is there still such a thing?
I thought Thatcher did away with everything between extremely rich and extremely poor...

And from outside there seem to be only the prawn sandwich brigade and the "ten german bombers" singing pie and mash eating crowd, with a growing number of strange people sporting strange beards and occasionally blowing themselves up in between...
:nope::damn::roll:

Captain Nemo
10-17-07, 07:35 AM
As for the three main party's they all stink and I would not vote for any of them.

Agree with you on that.

Nemo

micky1up
10-17-07, 07:59 AM
the truely rich are ok they are nice people the middle classs who social climb now they are tossers stamping on any one to get what they want ,me i from working classs origins realistic and fair to others the middle classs can drink themselves to death for all i care

jumpy
10-17-07, 01:38 PM
I always looked at the class system in this country as a product of economics, and not birth or family origins.
Anecdotally the 'middle classes' are never quite on an even keel - they earn too much to get any help from the government (unlike the working class), yet they earn too little to not worry about where the next bill is coming from, unlike the upper class.
The truly poor get all the state help available, whilst the truly rich enjoy a life free from the burdens of financial frugality. Those who lie somewhere in-between get shafted by the government in taxes and lack of assistance. Is it any surprise that today's take on the class system is as it is? If you're 'middle class' you have to work like a dog to get anywhere secure and break even.

Seems about right to me. I don't consider myself to be any particular class (though I have been described as having a 'posh accent' - no, I just don't have a regional twang to the way I speak), however I fit nicely into the financial bracket of earning too little to be truly comfortable and too much to get a break from the government or local council. I get taxed the most 'because I can afford it', but only just.

Jimbuna
10-17-07, 01:51 PM
England is a classless society.....just so long as you have enough money ;)

bradclark1
10-17-07, 02:16 PM
Today class is based on income. I'm low class. I'm sure some here would agree.:lol:

Jimbuna
10-17-07, 03:33 PM
Agreed....but what I really object to is the massive differential between the working classes and the affluent classes.....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much difference....how much money can somebody want before they're satisfied they have enough :x
Heck!!....the more money you have the better the accountant or financial team your able to afford and usually, the less tax you end up paying :nope:

Prof
10-17-07, 05:05 PM
Agreed....but what I really object to is the massive differential between the working classes and the affluent classes.....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much difference....how much money can somebody want before they're satisfied they have enough :x
Heck!!....the more money you have the better the accountant or financial team your able to afford and usually, the less tax you end up paying :nope:Surely what's important is that the working classes have enough, not that they're only X% behind the more affluent classes?

I'm probably about as 'middle class' as they come...except I don't pretend to be upper class...which, when you think about it, means I can't be 'middle class' after all :p
Anyway, the point is that as long as I have enough money to live, I couldn't care less whether the next social stratum above me is earning 2, 10 or 100 times what I'm earning.

Jimbuna
10-18-07, 02:44 AM
Agreed....but what I really object to is the massive differential between the working classes and the affluent classes.....faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much difference....how much money can somebody want before they're satisfied they have enough :x
Heck!!....the more money you have the better the accountant or financial team your able to afford and usually, the less tax you end up paying :nope:Surely what's important is that the working classes have enough, not that they're only X% behind the more affluent classes?

I'm probably about as 'middle class' as they come...except I don't pretend to be upper class...which, when you think about it, means I can't be 'middle class' after all :p
Anyway, the point is that as long as I have enough money to live, I couldn't care less whether the next social stratum above me is earning 2, 10 or 100 times what I'm earning.

I'd like to be whatever this upper class thing is just for a day....then I'll happily drop back to my subterranean level.....armed with the bank account number for future reference of course :lol:

Hakahura
10-19-07, 10:25 AM
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