Could Use Some Help

[cdrsubron7]

Is there such a thing as having too many mods installed? I've been trying to play SHIV and am getting constant CTDs. Anything and everthing seems to cause the game to crash. Below I've shown a picture of what Im using as mods in SHIV at the moment. Could someone take a look at it and tell if some of these mods might be conflicting with something else?



http://i24.tinypic.com/2mwtnd4.jpg

[Von Tonner]

I think you might want to have a look at the order you have ROW installed. Because it does not come as a complete "package" it is important that the parts to it are installed in a particular order.

[THE_MASK]

Try uninstalling the bs_silrun_all_menus_1_3 mod .

[cdrsubron7]

I think you might want to have a look at the order you have ROW installed. Because it does not come as a complete "package" it is important that the parts to it are installed in a particular order.



Could you point me in the direction where I can find the correct order to install the items of the ROW mod, Von Tonner?

[Frostyvegi]

I'd suggest the read me would have the list there.

[Von Tonner]

I think you might want to have a look at the order you have ROW installed. Because it does not come as a complete "package" it is important that the parts to it are installed in a particular order.



Could you point me in the direction where I can find the correct order to install the items of the ROW mod, Von Tonner?

Look here, it is in the mods section.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122408

[Rockin Robbins]

I had the same problem after months of rock solid running. It turned out not to have anything to do with my mod load errors. Looks like you've probably experimented with quite a few mods, trading them in and out as you find what works for you. Somewhere along there you could have uninstalled in a different order than you installed. This can make a hybrid frankenmod which can contain the seeds of its own destruction. Then you reinstall it causing.....CRASH!!! Either that or it's cosmic rays, who cares?????:know: You'll probably never know what the problem is.

But you can still fix it. I tried using 42, the answer to life, death, the universe and everything, but it didn't work with Silent Hunter 4. So it's time to try what looks draconian and too complicated, but what can actually be done in about ten minutes.

1. Move your MODS folder to your desktop for safekeeping.

2. Uninstall :doh: Silent Hunter 4 using the control panel. You could try using the repair option there, but I like to be absolutely sure I know what's happening so bear with me.

3. During the uninstall process you will be given the option to save your save-games. Do it or you're starting all over. Don't want that.:arrgh!:

4. Reinstall Silent Hunter 4 and apply patch 1.3.

5. When you uninstalled, since JSGME lives in the main program directory, it is gone. Reinstall JSGME from the SUBSIM website.

6. Run JSGME once to make a MODS folder and exit without installing anything. There's nothing to install at this point anyway!

7. Move your MODS folder from your desktop back into your new main folder. It will overwrite your blank MODS folder created by JSGME.

8. Run JSGME, installing all your mods in the correct order.

9. You're back in business. Play Silent Hunter 4 and go into therapy so you don't torture yourself for the rest of your life speculating about what really was wrong when you had all those CTDs.

10. Live happily ever after.:sunny:

Well, there you go chum! Other possible remedies, like drinking to excess, kicking your dog (borrowing neighbor's dog if necessary), cursing, eating Mexican food of dubious origins, etc, may bring temporary relief, but for a true cure advanced and radical surgery is the only answer! (I've been watching altogether too much Strong Bad)

[cdrsubron7]

I had the same problem after months of rock solid running. It turned out not to have anything to do with my mod load errors. Looks like you've probably experimented with quite a few mods, trading them in and out as you find what works for you. Somewhere along there you could have uninstalled in a different order than you installed. This can make a hybrid frankenmod which can contain the seeds of its own destruction. Then you reinstall it causing.....CRASH!!! Either that or it's cosmic rays, who cares?????:know: You'll probably never know what the problem is.

But you can still fix it. I tried using 42, the answer to life, death, the universe and everything, but it didn't work with Silent Hunter 4. So it's time to try what looks draconian and too complicated, but what can actually be done in about ten minutes.

1. Move your MODS folder to your desktop for safekeeping.

2. Uninstall :doh: Silent Hunter 4 using the control panel. You could try using the repair option there, but I like to be absolutely sure I know what's happening so bear with me.

3. During the uninstall process you will be given the option to save your save-games. Do it or you're starting all over. Don't want that.:arrgh!:

4. Reinstall Silent Hunter 4 and apply patch 1.3.

5. When you uninstalled, since JSGME lives in the main program directory, it is gone. Reinstall JSGME from the SUBSIM website.

6. Run JSGME once to make a MODS folder and exit without installing anything. There's nothing to install at this point anyway!

7. Move your MODS folder from your desktop back into your new main folder. It will overwrite your blank MODS folder created by JSGME.

8. Run JSGME, installing all your mods in the correct order.

9. You're back in business. Play Silent Hunter 4 and go into therapy so you don't torture yourself for the rest of your life speculating about what really was wrong when you had all those CTDs.

10. Live happily ever after.:sunny:

Well, there you go chum! Other possible remedies, like drinking to excess, kicking your dog (borrowing neighbor's dog if necessary), cursing, eating Mexican food of dubious origins, etc, may bring temporary relief, but for a true cure advanced and radical surgery is the only answer! (I've been watching altogether too much Strong Bad)


Thanks, RR, for taking the time to make those suggestions. I followed your directions and reinstalled SHIV, added patch 1.3, reinstalled the jsgme, and then all my mods. End line for all this, no change. Still getting ramdom CTDs all over the place. I guess I'll go back to heavy drinking and rack my brain trying to figure out what the H the problem is. :damn:

[Rockin Robbins]

Thanks, RR, for taking the time to make those suggestions. I followed your directions and reinstalled SHIV, added patch 1.3, reinstalled the jsgme, and then all my mods. End line for all this, no change. Still getting ramdom CTDs all over the place. I guess I'll go back to heavy drinking and rack my brain trying to figure out what the H the problem is. :damn:

Actually I like eating Mexican food of dubious origins better, but to each his own. Before doing computer surgery of some kind, maybe downloading your mods from scratch might help. If that doesn't help it's the old trial and terror method of removing one mod at a time until the CTDs stop. Then go to the mod author and see if you can get a fix. Your list looks good to me and I don't think you have any mods that are.... AHA!!!!

Your ROW files are installed in the wrong order. You should be 1. ROW Textures, 2. ROW scene install lightning smoke fire oil LBO, 3. ROW highend sub reflections 0.1 (substitute low end if you wish here), 4. ROW highend ship reflections 0.1, 5. ROW misc highend reflections 0.1, 6. ROW Camera Mod vs3 arcade (or realistic), 7. ROW hollywood effect with sfx. You should get the new ROW files, yours are a version old and be careful the order you install them in.

THEN install the mods you have on top of that (they should not be a problem). Let us know what you have then.:ping:

[neumanf15]

If you happen to be in the latter half of 1943, it could be a campaign issue in TM. Tater released a fix to the campaign that repaired a few convoys that were causing my crashes. Look in the TM thread (Should be in the last page or two.

[cdrsubron7]

Thanks, RR, for taking the time to make those suggestions. I followed your directions and reinstalled SHIV, added patch 1.3, reinstalled the jsgme, and then all my mods. End line for all this, no change. Still getting ramdom CTDs all over the place. I guess I'll go back to heavy drinking and rack my brain trying to figure out what the H the problem is. :damn:
Actually I like eating Mexican food of dubious origins better, but to each his own. Before doing computer surgery of some kind, maybe downloading your mods from scratch might help. If that doesn't help it's the old trial and terror method of removing one mod at a time until the CTDs stop. Then go to the mod author and see if you can get a fix. Your list looks good to me and I don't think you have any mods that are.... AHA!!!!

Your ROW files are installed in the wrong order. You should be 1. ROW Textures, 2. ROW scene install lightning smoke fire oil LBO, 3. ROW highend sub reflections 0.1 (substitute low end if you wish here), 4. ROW highend ship reflections 0.1, 5. ROW misc highend reflections 0.1, 6. ROW Camera Mod vs3 arcade (or realistic), 7. ROW hollywood effect with sfx. You should get the new ROW files, yours are a version old and be careful the order you install them in.

THEN install the mods you have on top of that (they should not be a problem). Let us know what you have then.:ping:




The ROW files in the first screen I showed in my first post are the new ROW files recently uploaded. I went back and installed the old ones which you see in the screen below.

http://i23.tinypic.com/116mk20.jpg



I don't know if this matters, but my cureent problems are stemming from trying to test run a new war patrol scenario I've been working on this weekend. It takes place in May, 1944. I can't take any screen shots of it, it crashes at any random moment, and aside from all that the Jap DDs are spotting me 15 miles away in a driving rain storm.

[Rockin Robbins]

I see! A campaign/scenario problem! That's a tater area of expertise. I suggest you PM him and I'd be VERY surprised if he can't get you sorted out. And you can tell him beyond a doubt that you have eliminated any game installation issues with your two advanced Silent Hunter surgeries. :up:

I'm stepping WAY out of my own knowledge pool, but it sounds like a crash when a certain type of ship is sighted. Keep us posted on what you find out because for some people this would be a deal-breaker on SH4. And it's most likely not SH4's fault, defect-wise.

[Alex251]

Thank`s in advance if somebody would help. Problem is next - couple times I`ve started the career in different years (1942-43), but every time after I`ve get 60-70000 tn of the vessels being sent to bottom, my own sub after "periscop depth" command just diving over critical depth and joining to enemies. At the same time I haven`t even single trace of any damage of my sub on ship`s systems control panel! I`ve got SHIV +p.1.3. Game`s going o`k until I`ve some critical??? tonnage in my hunting bag.
Sorry for poor english, but your help is really needed.