Microsoft-loving (former) security czar calls for closed internet

[SUBMAN1]

How much crack has this guy smoked?

-S

Richard Clarke, the man who served President Bush as a special adviser for cyber security, has a five-point plan for saving the internet.


Speaking at a Santa Clara University conference dedicated to "trust online," Clarke called the net "a place of chaos in many ways, a place of crime in many ways," but laid out several means of righting the ship, including biometric IDs, government regulation, and an industry wide standard for secure software. He even embraces the idea of a closed internet - which seems to have sparked a death threat from net pioneer Vint Cerf.
Read on here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/02/richard_clarke_speech_trust_online_santa_clara_uni versity_microsoft/

[U49]

I'm afraid he is clean on pharmaceutical products. Although yuo could think about prescribing im some..

But his words sound like he has a real good distance to basic concepts of our society, like "individual freedom".

Have heard the words before from a guy called "Erich Mielke" (no not the part with internet, it wasn't created at that time)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mielke

[Skybird]

Well, there was a life before the internet went public, and without doubt I could live without it again, if those measurements become a reality. I would miss some comfort opportunities, like searching for product information before buying something, but nothing of that is in any way vital. I even alrready have abandoned some procedures , I do no more onlinke banking and have cancelled my online bankingin access, I also do not order via amazon anymore, but order books in small shops again - they want to live too, you know. Huge market chains and internet shopping have costed a lot of people and shop owner their existence.

[DeepIron]

Richard Clarke, the man who served President Bush...

Well, there's the first clue...

[SUBMAN1]

Richard Clarke, the man who served President Bush...
Well, there's the first clue...

Yep - it is past tense. That tells me that he was basically shunned over time.

-S

[The WosMan]

Richard Clarke, the man who served President Bush...

Well, there's the first clue...

Richard Clarke was promoted to chief counter-terrorism adviser by Bill Clinton which means all the terrorism and other BS that lead to 9/11 was going on during his watch.

[P_Funk]

At first I was feeling my standard reactive irrational left-wing omni-freedom pinko-rage and then I read this:

Number four: A secure software standard. "We should look, as an industry, at improving the quality of secure code, so that we don't need to issue software patches, so there aren't trap doors - intentional or otherwise," he said. "This is not a revolutionary idea. We put this in place a long time ago for electrical appliances."

He is crazy. You can't create software without exploits, not without delaying its use so long that it will become obsolete to the point of needing to be updated and then... well there are more potential bugs.

But on the philosophical point of the internet, its obvious that there are powers that be that want to kill the free form of the internet. I know we'll survive without the internet and I know life goes on and that in the next generation another new thing will arrive but... well the internet is so special in what it can do for us. I could give it all a nice left wing slant on how it lets small people express themselves or how the free exchange of information is so great with it (bootleged music opponents need not kick up a fuss please) but also its not just about that. Its about whatever we want. In a world of proprietary ownership the internet lets people like you and me play in a sandbox and make whatever we want. Yes there are ads and corporatization all over then net but look at subsim. The only ads I'm harassed by are ones to buy things I'm probably already interested in.

I know life will go on if they kill the internet but so does life after the fall of a democracy. I don't think we can just sigh and say oh well. It would be truly ironic if people's inability to do anything about keeping the government from killing our beloved internet is because we all just want to 'veg' and stare at our email and message boards instead.

[DeepIron]

Number four: A secure software standard. "We should look, as an industry, at improving the quality of secure code, so that we don't need to issue software patches, so there aren't trap doors - intentional or otherwise," he said. "This is not a revolutionary idea. We put this in place a long time ago for electrical appliances."
Hey, I don't know about you guys but I ALWAYS write flawless, perfect code... I never revise or update or refactor once the source is committed... LOL :up:

He is crazy...
Or worse, just plain 'ol ignorant... :nope:

[CB..]

once upon a time football (or soccer to others) was played by entire villages against each other in a chaotic slightly mad mini riot between hundreds of people..with the playing field covering many acres of fields almost without limit...

now it is a global regulated and major financial buisness played between a tiny minority of elite players on small pitchs around the world...and the police will prevent groups of kids playing the game on the streets and small areas of grass within the housing estates...

what the nuts am i going on about ?????

one day home computers will be illegal...the government will be the only internet service provider..and we will be granted computer access via online "I drives" thru which we can do what we do...you will have a monitor and what ever passes for a keyboard / mouse combination...no hard drive or computer hard ware at all...you will just plug your monitor/keyboard/mouse combination into the wall socket ....

problem solved... from the governments point of view any way...dunno quite when it will happen but it will happen...part good , part bad...entirely inevitable...the only other thing i can think of would be to physically split the internet into seperate "channels" with absolutely no connection between the channels..and create a "home user" net a "buisness user" net a "governement user" net and so and so forth....every day that goes past makes the internet more and more important and more and more powerfull..eventualy it will be TOO important and TOO powefull to leave in it's present state..has to be?.