bit of a natter about this and that

[She-Wolf]

Hello all again. :D

Nobody was able to help me with my hydrophone problem (I can't get it to turn when I want to use it personally), so that's ok... I will get by.. somehow. :cry:

I downloaded the manual for SH2 to see if that might give me some clues. it doesn't, but what it does mention is thermo clines, and it says that my crew will alert me whenever we pass through one. Well... that has not been my experience. No-one has ever mentioned layers to me in SH3. Is that because I seldom get into combat situations or because I am always in the North Sea?


I have been trying to understand the game Dangerous Waters - I saw it going cheap, so I bought it. Gosh, hard to get into. If I persevere I might find a good game in there, though it can't beat SH3 for realism I think, and it might help me understand more about submarine warfare - that too goes on about thermal layers - so why have I not found any in SH3?.

The seas have been rough for DAYS on my present patrol, and my poor watch gets regularly dunked when I have to come up for batteries, but I haven't lost a man (yet). The only targets I have located so far are too far away, so I am about to sneak a bit closer to Harwich to see if I can find a convoy hugging the coast. Risky I know, and it will probably end in a watery death - but I can't go back to Kiel with nothing.....

[Huskalar]

When you click somewhere on the hydrophone dial, the needle doesn't start to turn towards that point automaticly?

And there are thermal layers but you're just not notified when you pass through one. :up:

[She-Wolf]

no it doesn't! It used to, until about three real-time days ago...

ahh, so, if no-one tells me when I have passed through a thermal layer in SH3, how can I know and take advantage of it?? :hmm:

[Huskalar]

no it doesn't! It used to, until about three real-time days ago...In that case I'm afraid that I'm not able to help you. But of course you can always re-install the game. But I can imagine that re-installing the game is not the option that you prefer the most.

ahh, so, if no-one tells me when I have passed through a thermal layer in SH3, how can I know and take advantage of it?? :hmm:Well, I guess that when the DD's above you can't ping you anymore, there is chance that's because you're in or under a thermal layer. Of course you don't know where you can find such a layer, but the deeper you go, the higher the chance you can take advantage of it. If you're using SH3 Commander the depth of thermal layers is randomly generated every time the game is started.

[Capt. Shark Bait]

She-Wolf, if you're using a type IIA i had the same prob. HP wheel wouldn't turn, but it does in a VII i took command of, but for other reasons

[She-Wolf]

Shark Bait, I am in that type u-boat, yes. Not had it happen before.

I could re-install the game as Huskalar suggests, but that means I have to reload GWX as well... still. I can do that! course I can!:D:D

[Jimbuna]

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! :arrgh!:

;)

[She-Wolf]

you mean I should say GGGRRRRR at it Jimbuna? ok... GGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRROOOWWWLLLL


nope, didn't work :D

[NealT]

Just do not get so aggressive you smash the keyboard or the monitor...I am not sure you would appreciate the outcome :hmm:

[She-Wolf]

hello Neal - no, tis ok, I love my pootah ( well, most of the time) and I will be nice to it. I shall try re-installing the game and GWX ... :)

[Jimbuna]

The hydrophone wheel problem on the typeII is a stock problem.

As for thermal layers, what SH3 Commander actually does is limit the ability of the escorts sensors randomly, to simulate different thermal layer depths/conditions :up:

[Jimbuna]

hello Neal - no, tis ok, I love my pootah ( well, most of the time) and I will be nice to it. I shall try re-installing the game and GWX ... :)

If you do decide on a new install....permit me to give a few pointers :up:

1. Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6.Download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

[She-Wolf]

thank you Jimbuna, I will follow your instructs. :up:

One thing I wonder about. When I first installed SH3 and GWX, I also had a folder from BigBoy ( where has he gone to?), something about December amendments was it? I still have that folder but can't remember where I am to put the contents. Can you advise please?

[HW3]

The December 23 update is included in the 1.03 patch, so you do not need it anymore.

[papa_smurf]

I've not had this problem with the type IIA - maybe I was lucky. (wish I had similar luck with my patrols, keep on having shoot-outs with aircraft BIG mistake:damn: )

[She-Wolf]

right, thanks HW3 :D

papa-smurf - I'll swap ya, I have not had anything but failures in my patrols.
My very first one started with an almighty crunch as I steered my sub into the side of the quay. I have improved though. Now I get to my patrol area now without going the wrong way (did that twice), using up all my fuel or running aground in the Kiel canal.
The one and only merchant I have ever bagged outside of naval academy, I shouldn't have, so it didn't count. Patrol boats seem to sniff me out from 100 kilometers away (grr), planes pop up out of nowhere and drop nasty things on me ( but they all miss me, nah-nah-nahnah-nahhh) and at present I am obliged to risk drowning my watch crew when I come up for the battery as the sea is so rough...If ever you see me coming-go deep and stay there for 24. IF I ever get to the place where I can have an emblem on my tower, it needs to be a big red flag. :rotfl::rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

thank you Jimbuna, I will follow your instructs. :up:

One thing I wonder about. When I first installed SH3 and GWX, I also had a folder from BigBoy ( where has he gone to?), something about December amendments was it? I still have that folder but can't remember where I am to put the contents. Can you advise please?

You don't need it now, it's already included :yep: Don't forget the SH3 Commander cfg file though (if your using SH3 Commander that is) ;) :up:

[She-Wolf]

OK got that. Ta.

Just been 'out there', sunk my second merchant ( since I have been playing the game outside of training that is), and whoopeed around, until I discovered it was a neutral ....AGAIN :damn: nffnbgnbrcklbngifluffengrmbretnschmmnnngrrrrr

[She-Wolf]

Oh! SH3Commander? Wassat?

Before I have put the standard game on, plus the 1.4b patch (?) and then run GWX

Now, in this order, I need to put the standard game on, the 1.4b patch, something called 1.3 ( from where do I get this please?) and also SH3 Commander, and then GWX. Is that right?

I will put ANYthing on that might help me be a better player so I can do the game justice. I have a little read of the helps now and then, but only so much sticks..

Question though. When the radio message tells me there is a certain vessel at 45.29N and 09.45W ( for example), what am I supposed to do with that info?

[Myxale]

You can follow the message, if you're near, or know where that is ;). Or sail on in your merry wee boat!;)

This isn't always a direct order! Feel free to say "Bugger, to far, that one!"

[She-Wolf]

I don't know where it is because it is giving compass coordinates that I don't recognise. It isn't a bearing or grid reference, just long and lat. I guess I will have to get meself a little chart to work it out... :)

[HW3]

The message is an actual radio message from WWII and is there for atmosphere only.

[Jimbuna]

I don't know where it is because it is giving compass coordinates that I don't recognise. It isn't a bearing or grid reference, just long and lat. I guess I will have to get meself a little chart to work it out... :)

The radio messages are for immersion only........the map updates are not though :arrgh!:

[She-Wolf]

AAHHH!! :) thanks.:up:

[Brag]

anti poll bump

[Jimbuna]

anti poll bump

LMAO :rotfl: