Man tears down Mexican flag

[Onkel Neal]

Video interview here
http://www.koat.com/video/13734667/index.html?rss=alb&psp=video

Why is a Mexican flag flying on a US campus, I don't get that.

[SUBMAN1]

SOmeone with a brain. Terrible that that flag was flying in our country.

To anyone looking for the vid, you must click news and then click on the flag video.

-S

[Kapitan_Phillips]

We had three flagpoles outside our school. In my 4-5 years of being there, I never saw the Union Jack. We had Uganda, France and Germany, but never Britain.

:damn:

[HunterICX]

:-? I guess
when a foreign flag is wavering on your own country soil, its a sign of weakness....

[fatty]

At a hotel I once stayed at in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, they were flying the Japanese flag, apparently because the Anne of Green Gables legend is so huge over there that Japanese tourists are a big source of revenue for PEI.

[DeepIron]

it's a sign of weakness....

Or apathy... :nope:

[Letum]

it's a sign of weakness....
Or apathy... :nope:
Apathy to.......flags?!

Whats with this whole cult of the flag thing?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

due to the fact the neocon government started a pro immigration act... well guess what those immigrants are destroying america:shifty:, illegals are even worse, they bring crime and diseases that were only found in south america, those same diseases are now in southern United states..:shifty:
there shudnt be mexican flags in the united states... there shudnt be mexican curriculums in american schools....

[antikristuseke]

it's a sign of weakness....
Or apathy... :nope:
Apathy to.......flags?!

Whats with this whole cult of the flag thing?

I have allways wondered the same thing.

[bradclark1]

:-? I guess
when a foreign flag is wavering on your own country soil, its a sign of weakness....
Might have something to do with Mexicans protesting/rallying for immigration and they were carrying Mexican flags. If you want to be part of a country don't fly foreign flags. If there is only one flag pole the stars and stripes should be flying. Want to fly another, get another pole.
It's a crazy American thing. It's not Mexico. You want to fly a Mexican flag go live in Mexico, or you can fly it at your home, it's your property or dangle it from your car rear view mirror but not public buildings.
Thats my view on it anyway.

[DeepIron]

Whats with this whole cult of the flag thing?
I'm surprised. You don't feel anything when the flag of your nation is displayed? I mean if you don't, you don't.... :hmm:

But it's not a "cult" thing... It's national pride in what the standard of our nation stands for (despite an on-going level of incompetent bureaucratic stupidity). All the things that Americans hold dear and close to their hearts are in the Flag. :D

When I was growing up in the '60s we placed our hands over our hearts and recited our National Anthem, re-affirming daily our committment to our ideals and our country. Everytime I see our Flag, I'm reminded of those committments... :D

Apathy? I believe that most younger Americans basically care less whether it's Old Glory waving in the breeze or some other flag. We have a REAL problem with illegal aliens from Mexico in this country and having the flag of Mexico flying either above the Stars and Stripes, or in it's place, is not acceptable. :nope:

I'm perfectly pleased to see someone tear down a standard that shouldn't be "up the flagpole" in the first place... :up:

[Letum]

Whats with this whole cult of the flag thing?
I'm surprised. You don't feel anything when the flag of your nation is displayed? I mean if you don't, you don't.... :hmm:

But it's not a "cult" thing... It's national pride in what the standard of our nation stands for (despite an on-going level of incompetent bureaucratic stupidity). All the things that Americans hold dear and close to their hearts are in the Flag. :D

When I was growing up in the '60s we placed our hands over our hearts and recited our National Anthem, re-affirming daily our committment to our ideals and our country. Everytime I see our Flag, I'm reminded of those committments... :D



Jingoism?
Chovanistic patriotism?

Not my cup of tea.

[DeepIron]

Interesting... You sited Jingoism and Chauvinism, two similar terms that denote hatred and violence towards others to make your point... :nope:

Patriotism covers such attitudes as: pride in its achievements and culture, the desire to preserve its character and the basis of the culture, and identification with other members of the nation.

That's the defintion of patriotism that I believe in.. :yep:


not my cup of tea

To each his own...

[Letum]

Patriotism covers such attitudes as: pride in its achievements and culture, the desire to preserve its character and the basis of the culture, and identification with other members of the nation.




Patriotism is fine and good, but it so easily turns in to bias for your own country and people
and the belief that your country and/or people are superior to others.
Some particularly nasty historical figures have relied heavily on this kind of zealous nationalism and flag waving.

Pride in ones national achievements is great, but when it spills over to trying to stop
other people showing their pride other nations by tearing down their flags or into
open hostility to other nations; some thing is wrong.

There seams to be a very fine line between patriotism and jingoism in America.

[fatty]

Patriotism is fine and good, but it so easily turns in to bias for your own country and people
and the belief that your country and/or people are superior to others.
Some particularly nasty historical figures have relied heavily on this kind of zealous nationalism and flag waving.

Pride in ones national achievements is great, but when it spills over to trying to stop
other people showing their pride other nations by tearing down their flags or into
open hostility to other nations; some thing is wrong.

Especially when it arrives at the degree that questioning your country's direction or leadership may inspire others to deem you "unpatriotic," or even in alliance with your country's enemies. Fill in the blanks with examples from issues in the contemporary West.

[DeepIron]

Interesting points but I won't debate you on them. I'm tired of the "evil, war-mongering, hateful Americans" schtick...

Suffice to say this, anytime you guys would like to see your National Standard replaced by that of another foreign nation, be my guest...

[baggygreen]

In canberra we have parliament house, funnily enough. courtesy of walter burley griffin's design, the parliamentary circle is a central point for a lovely, well designed city.

One of the roads leading from the south side of the lake towards APH is yarra glen. As You drive along it, you come around a bend, up a slight rise and next thing you see is a couple of km away, the australian flag flying atop APH. Its a glorious view.

The only thing better is driving towards APH from the War Memorial, shown here (http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2438280/2/istockphoto_2438280_australian_parliament_house.jp g&imgrefurl=http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/%3Fid%3D2438280%26refnum%3D489940&h=253&w=380&sz=43&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=wu6jXKxo3WoRoM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralian%2BParliament%2Bhouse%26gbv %3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN). I get to drive down Anzac parade to this view every morning on my way to work.

My point is, every time i see these 2 sights, my stomach does a little dance. I dont hold many if any views that we're a superior nation etc., but it certainly tickles my pickle!!!!!

[jumpy]

We had three flagpoles outside our school. In my 4-5 years of being there, I never saw the Union Jack. We had Uganda, France and Germany, but never Britain.

:damn:
During the last 2 years of my time at boarding school (ie 6th form) I had a union jack flag in my window which I was asked to take down, by my house master, because a parent had complained that it was 'overly nationalistic'. :roll:

It really annoyed me at the time, and gave me a little glimpse of what to expect from the world outside of the school. Nothing has really changed in this respect except for the fact that I'm now a little more pragmatic in my feelings towards such incidents; I'm not going to let something as silly as someone elses narrow point of view bother me to the extent that it detracts from my daily life.

At the end of the day it's just a flag and I'm not going to be swayed in my thought by other peoples ideas and behaviour, if they want to get all p r i c k l y * about it that's their perogative, more power to them, but I'm not going to subsume their attachement to an icon like my national flag.

As Letum mentions, all too often natinoal pride sinks to become something altogether more unplesant.



* damn sweary filtre, what happens if I write s****horpe? :rotfl:s c u n t h o r p e, it's a place in the UK you know :hmm:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/Captbrit.jpg/250px-Captbrit.jpg

*salutes*

[Kapitan_Phillips]

We had three flagpoles outside our school. In my 4-5 years of being there, I never saw the Union Jack. We had Uganda, France and Germany, but never Britain.

:damn:
During the last 2 years of my time at boarding school (ie 6th form) I had a union jack flag in my window which I was asked to take down, by my house master, because a parent had complained that it was 'overly nationalistic'. :roll:

It really annoyed me at the time, and gave me a little glimpse of what to expect from the world outside of the school. Nothing has really changed in this respect except for the fact that I'm now a little more pragmatic in my feelings towards such incidents; I'm not going to let something as silly as someone elses narrow point of view bother me to the extent that it detracts from my daily life.

At the end of the day it's just a flag and I'm not going to be swayed in my thought by other peoples ideas and behaviour, if they want to get all p r i c k l y * about it that's their perogative, more power to them, but I'm not going to subsume their attachement to an icon like my national flag.

As Letum mentions, all too often natinoal pride sinks to become something altogether more unplesant.



* damn sweary filtre, what happens if I write s****horpe? :rotfl:s c u n t h o r p e, it's a place in the UK you know :hmm:


What niggles me is, we bought the headteacher one to put up there. I can understand the Uganda one, because our school was linked with a college there, but France? And Germany? Last time I checked this was the United Kingdom, and I'm just as proud of our flag as the Yanks are of theirs.

I bet you that parent who complained about your flag would soon complain more if they saw someone burning it. Nowadays its all "We cant be overly British, it'll offend the Muslims!"

:shifty:

[jumpy]

I bet you that parent who complained about your flag would soon complain more if they saw someone burning it. Nowadays its all "We cant be overly British, it'll offend the Muslims!"

:shifty:
hehe the irony of the situation was several of the other students had the following flags on prominent display in their windows and nobody said anything:

Japanese Rising sun
Germany
The Soviet Union
Argentina

Can you spot the similarity with what some might consider the 'subtext' to these symbols of national identity?

Hypocrisy is something I became so much more aware of to the extent that I realised that there is not one corner of my life and interaction with others that it does not permeate in one form or another. :shifty:

I'd bet the shirt off my back that the parent who complained was a white, middle class lefty do gooder. So seeing someone burning the union jack would most likely elicit little response. That was 15 years ago and I don't believe anything has changed for the better in this respect.

[SUBMAN1]

Interesting points but I won't debate you on them. I'm tired of the "evil, war-mongering, hateful Americans" schtick...

Suffice to say this, anytime you guys would like to see your National Standard replaced by that of another foreign nation, be my guest...

Good one! I couldn't say it better myself. Pretty much the only reason ones country even exists is due to patriotism in the first place. Without it, you have nothing more than a congregation of people with no moral fabric to bind them together, waiting for the next barbarian attack looking to take away what little they have left.

I thought in this day in age that we would have figured out what got you to where one is. Seems some people need a history lesson. Very sad. Actually, very very sad.

-S

[bigboywooly]

I have a 10 by 8 St Georges flag flying on a pole in my back garden
Pole is high enough to be seen across all the neighbouring gardens and roads

F**k em
Tis my national flag

Not had any complaints
YET

Was one thing I noticed while in the states - the amount of US flags flying from porches and businesses
Not to mention bumper stickers

Very few of our government buildings fly flags anymore
Shame

[antikristuseke]

Interesting points but I won't debate you on them. I'm tired of the "evil, war-mongering, hateful Americans" schtick...

Suffice to say this, anytime you guys would like to see your National Standard replaced by that of another foreign nation, be my guest...

Tearing down some other countries flag is hardly something to concider a patriotic act. Allso waving your own nations flag arround everywhere doesnt make you a patriot, while standing for your country and its ideals does.

[P_Funk]

Have you people seen the Canadian flag? Do you know how silly it looks next to everyone elses? Its a bloody joke nearly!

And I love that flag. Cause it says F U to everyone else. Its the most original flag I've ever seen. Not some ripped off American flag with only 13 stars and a beaver in the middle for good luck. Nope its totally original. Does fill me with pride, and a giggle.

And I don't have an issue with people displaying flags of their ancestry, as long as it isn't an overt jesture of anti-integration. Every day on the way to school I can look out the right window of the bus and see a lovely house on one corner that has a greek flag flying high. But guess what, it has a Canadian one flying just a bit higher too.

Thats how you do it.

As for patriotism, not my cup of congac either. I'm a much bigger fan of nationalism. Patriotism always gave off a submissive ignorant feeling to me.

Even the googled definitions sound correct to me.

Patriotism - Love of and devotion to one's country.

Nationalism - Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.

Way more complex and doesn't imply a deliberate or encouraged ignorance or jingoism. Yes jingoism goes well with patriotism.

[SUBMAN1]

Interesting points but I won't debate you on them. I'm tired of the "evil, war-mongering, hateful Americans" schtick...

Suffice to say this, anytime you guys would like to see your National Standard replaced by that of another foreign nation, be my guest...
Tearing down some other countries flag is hardly something to concider a patriotic act. Allso waving your own nations flag arround everywhere doesnt make you a patriot, while standing for your country and its ideals does.

It is totally patriotic. The proper way to display a flag on a government building such as a school, which is state run is to have the American flag on top and in the middle. Slightly lower is to have the state flag off on one of the side polls, and the third poll should be used for a visiting dignitary and should be the lowest of the three.

THis shows pride in our country and represents pride. THe fact a Mexican flag is flying above our schools with no American or state flag tells me there is deep problems in that society. Scary.

-S

[DeepIron]

Tearing down some other countries flag is hardly something to concider a patriotic act.
I guess the guys on Iwo Jima were pretty "unpatriotic" by your definition...

Also waving your own nations flag arround everywhere doesnt make you a patriot, while standing for your country and its ideals does.
So, what's the problem? I'm standing by my patriotic ideals by posting my convictions in this forum and I'm close to being condemned for them... I am a patriotic citizen. I stand by my country for what our Founding Fathers believed in and what the Constitution of the United States guarantees. I'm as much a patriot for my country as anyone else is for theirs.

As far as the flag incident is concerned, it boils down to this:
The National Flag of Mexico OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY has NO, repeat NO, reason or right to be flown in this OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY outside of the lawful and prescribed manner as SUBMAN1 points out.

Maybe someone who questions "patriotism" should proudly and unabashedly display a Nazi flag at their home. See how many "patriots" show up on your doorstep...

[antikristuseke]

Tearing down some other countries flag is hardly something to concider a patriotic act.
I guess the guys on Iwo Jima were pretty "unpatriotic" by your definition...

Now you are taking things out of context. The soldiers at Iwo Jima were fighting in a war where strong symbols like that are important for morale. They were patriots by the merrit of figthing for their countries defence.
Also waving your own nations flag arround everywhere doesnt make you a patriot, while standing for your country and its ideals does.
So, what's the problem? I'm standing by my patriotic ideals by posting my convictions in this forum and I'm close to being condemned for them... I am a patriotic citizen. I stand by my country for what our Founding Fathers believed in and what the Constitution of the United States guarantees. I'm as much a patriot for my country as anyone else is for theirs.I did'nt condemn you. While I dont agree with everything you say I never dondemned you. All i said was that I don't see the tearing down of that flag in that case as being patriotic.

As far as the flag incident is concerned, it boils down to this:
The National Flag of Mexico OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY has NO, repeat NO, reason or right to be flown in this OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY outside of the lawful and prescribed manner as SUBMAN1 points out.

Maybe someone who questions "patriotism" should proudly and unabashedly display a Nazi flag at their home. See how many "patriots" show up on your doorstep...

Thats your opinion. The school I went to had two flags up the poles, both at equal height, our countries flag and the flag of the country our partner school was, Finland in thsi case. I concidered it as sign of respect to have the flags at equal height, but this is again a mater of opinion wether you think the country in question deserves the respect or not.

[DeepIron]

Now you are taking things out of context. The soldiers at Iwo Jima were fighting in a war where strong symbols like that are important for morale. They were patriots by the merrit of figthing for their countries defence.
Dude, what do you think we're doing? We are fighting for our way of life, our freedoms, our jobs and our identity! We are fighting an enemy who "walks" across our borders illegally, demands the same rights and benefits as a citizen WITHOUT paying their dues, and is depleting our social care system...

American citizens and patriots are fighting a war in defense of our county! Would it be any more plain if I got a gun and started shooting?

Talk about "strong symbols"! I can hardly think of anything more galvanizing to action than to see the flag of some other nation flying above or in lieu of my own.

Thats your opinion. The school I went to had two flags up the poles, both at equal height, our countries flag and the flag of the country our partner school was, Finland in thsi case. I concidered it as sign of respect to have the flags at equal height, but this is again a mater of opinion wether you think the country in question deserves the respect or not.
No it's NOT an opinion. It is FEDERAL law... Here's a link with a listing of the protocols in displaying the US flag in the US. The source is The United States Code. Title 4, Chapter 1 - The Flag
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html#5

And allow me to quote from the same site:
"International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace."

BTW, I didn't accuse you personally of condemming me. Sorry if you interpreted my post that way...
'nuff said...

[antikristuseke]

Now you are taking things out of context. The soldiers at Iwo Jima were fighting in a war where strong symbols like that are important for morale. They were patriots by the merrit of figthing for their countries defence.
Dude, what do you think we're doing? We are fighting for our way of life, our freedoms, our jobs and our identity! We are fighting an enemy who "walks" across our borders illegally, demands the same rights and benefits as a citizen WITHOUT paying their dues, and is depleting our social care system...
I agree that illegal imigrants are a problem, but im pretty sure that the Mexican government isnt sending them to the US in an act of agression.


Thats your opinion. The school I went to had two flags up the poles, both at equal height, our countries flag and the flag of the country our partner school was, Finland in thsi case. I concidered it as sign of respect to have the flags at equal height, but this is again a mater of opinion wether you think the country in question deserves the respect or not.
No it's NOT an opinion. It is FEDERAL law... Here's a link with a listing of the protocols in displaying the US flag in the US. The source is The United States Code. Title 4, Chapter 1 - The Flag
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html#5

And allow me to quote from the same site:
"International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace."

BTW, I didn't accuse you personally of condemming me. Sorry if you interpreted my post that way...
'nuff said...

Fair ennough, my mistake. I dont know US laws.

[DeepIron]

antikristuseke, your profile says "estland" so I'm assuming Estonia?, north of Latvia and west of Russia? Interesting thing about the Estonian flag:

(1) If the Estonian Flag is raised with other flags, the Estonian flag must be at a position of superior prominence or honour.

Not so different from the US I guess... And I mean no disrespect, we all have our laws...

I agree that illegal imigrants are a problem, but im pretty sure that the Mexican government isnt sending them to the US in an act of agression.
Let's put it this way, the Mexican Federal govenment isn't stopping them... and has even gone as far as condemming the US for wanting to put a fence along the border as a barrier...

Or this reported by CNN: "Mexican President Felipe Calderon Sunday demanded the United States surrender its sovereignty, abandon the rule of law and accede to Mexico's inherent supremacy."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/04/Dobbs.Sept5/index.html?iref=newssearch

If that's not a threat, I don't know what is...

[SUBMAN1]

Just my 2 cents - Iwo Jima vs public schools. Same symbol, same moral boost, same message. Not sure who said it above, but they are dead wrong to think otherwise.

-S

[sunvalleyslim]

I have two residences, each in a different country. One in the United States of America, and one in Mexico.
While in America I fly the American Flag at my home, and no other. However it is acceptable to fly another countrys flag, so long as the American Flag is flown, and at a higher position than the other countries flag.
While in Mexico I fly the Mexican flag out of respect for that country. I do not fly a U.S. Flag while in Mexico. However I believe it would be permissable if flown below the Mexican Flag.
Inside my Mexico Casa (home) I have a U.S. Flag, Mexican flag, and POW banner, hanging from the ceiling in the living room.

To me it's about respect to others and their countries. Unfortunately respect has diminished over the ears for just about everything...........

[Kapitan_Phillips]

In my opinion, flags can be flown for just about any country for which you are proud, however, if for example you're living in the United States (as I will be, soon) I will respect the Stars and Stripes as well as respect my own Union Jack. It is a matter of respect - you shouldnt be required to fly the country's flag, but you shouldnt complain when it is, either.

[Onkel Neal]

Interesting points but I won't debate you on them. I'm tired of the "evil, war-mongering, hateful Americans" schtick...

Suffice to say this, anytime you guys would like to see your National Standard replaced by that of another foreign nation, be my guest...
Tearing down some other countries flag is hardly something to concider a patriotic act. Allso waving your own nations flag arround everywhere doesnt make you a patriot, while standing for your country and its ideals does.


THis shows pride in our country and represents pride. THe fact a Mexican flag is flying above our schools with no American or state flag tells me there is deep problems in that society. Scary.

-S

Yeah, I think the US is rotting from within. I'm amazed how brazenly illegal immigrants and their US supporters are pushing us to legalize 12 million. It won't be long before the demographics shift enough for them to rewrite our immigration laws.

[DeepIron]

Yeah, I think the US is rotting from within. I'm amazed how brazenly illegal immigrants and their US supporters are pushing us to legalize 12 million.

If there were only $ome rea$on for the$e effort$...

[Skybird]

Patriotism covers such attitudes as: pride in its achievements and culture, the desire to preserve its character and the basis of the culture, and identification with other members of the nation.

Acceptable even for me, although where I agree on the "desire to preserve" and "identification" part, I would point out that you cannot be proud on something you haven't acchieved yourself, and cannot be proud of what others acchieved in your place (but you can feel lucky to be able to take benefit from it). But let's not be too picky, replace "pride" in the above definition with "respecting a historical acchievement due to the results of reasonable analysis and finding it convincing and good", and get a drink.

Some French guy, name is on my tongue, said something like "patriotism is love to your people, nationalism is hate on the other people". This should not be forgotten.

I just wonder where this strange yearning of people for symbols is coming from. This piece-of-textile-flying-in-the-wind-thing gives me a hard time, and yes, I believe some people make a cult of it. Which means the symbol has taken over from what it originally was pointing at, and form becomes more important than content.

Never something good came from switching off brains. But especially monuments and flags help in that. In other words: pathos.

[Skybird]

Yeah, I think the US is rotting from within. I'm amazed how brazenly illegal immigrants and their US supporters are pushing us to legalize 12 million. It won't be long before the demographics shift enough for them to rewrite our immigration laws.
Different to Europe, at least most of your newcomers are Catholics. :smug:

[DeepIron]

That's hardly consoling, considering the current view of the Cathoic Church on birth control...

"Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law."

However here I will draw my own line and not drag religion further into this...

[Letum]

That's hardly consoling, considering the current view of the Cathoic Church on birth control...

"Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law."

However here I will draw my own line and not drag religion further into this...

You talk about religion and the announce that you won't talk about religion. :doh:

[baggygreen]

Lets just leave religion out of this one hey?

[Skybird]

I was not so much about religion, but about briefly indicating the cultual nearness or strangeness of newcomers. don't take it as a serious remark on religon exclusively. Remember, I entered a " :smug: " at the end.

[Tchocky]

My school didn't have any flag. My university flies three, the Irish tricolour, the EU flag, and the university's flag.

If I saw a person ripping down a flag, any flag, my first thoughts would lean towards "...idiot.", then possibly some consideration of legality.

[baggygreen]

OH i know you did sky, but i was more worried about an interesting debate on the significance of flags and different peoples opinions on that being turned into yet another religion-based, locked thread :)

Following what i said earlier about the aussie flag, I do get the sh!ts when i see the aboriginal flag and the torres strait islander flags being flown above or worse, instead of the aussie flag. I have aboriginal blood running through the veins, but to my way of thinking those 2 flags are so exclusive. the aussie flag encompasses anyone who wants to call themselves australian... not so with the others.

I remember when i was at school we had 2 flagpoles, one normally had the aussie flag and the other flew the international version of my school flag. come to NAIDOC week and down comes those 2, up go the aboriginal and torres strait islander flags, and i stormed straight into the deputy head's office and demanded that the national flag fly. didnt go so well....:down:

[DeepIron]

Sorry dudes, I forgot the :smug: at the end of my post...

From now on, I promise NOT to forget the :smug: at the end of any my posts or responses that might in any way construe or allude to an opinion concerning religion. :smug:

So help me God. :smug:

LOL...

[EDIT] Please don't take this post seriously. I'm just having a bit of fun here...;)

[Letum]

Sorry dudes, I forgot the :smug: at the end of my post...

From now on, I promise NOT to forget the :smug: at the end of any my posts or responses that might in any way construe or allude to an opinion concerning religion. :smug:

So help me God. :smug:

LOL...

[EDIT] Please don't take this post seriously. I'm just having a bit of fun here...;)

Arf!
It's a all-purpose disclaimer!
:smug:

[STEED]

Video interview here
http://www.koat.com/video/13734667/index.html?rss=alb&psp=video

Why is a Mexican flag flying on a US campus, I don't get that.

Thats like asking me why is the flag of India flying on top of a northern council building, sorry the councils name slips my mind. They bought down the St George flag and put up the Indian flag.

[The Avon Lady]

Video interview here
http://www.koat.com/video/13734667/index.html?rss=alb&psp=video

Why is a Mexican flag flying on a US campus, I don't get that.

Thats like asking me why is the flag of India flying on top of a northern council building, sorry the councils name slips my mind. They bought down the St George flag and put up the Indian flag.
Not to worry!

The council has been outsourced. :smug:

[Takeda Shingen]

That's hardly consoling, considering the current view of the Cathoic Church on birth control...

"Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law."

However here I will draw my own line and not drag religion further into this...

You talk about religion and the announce that you won't talk about religion. :doh:

Not unlike members who post in a thread to let everyone know that they have no intention of posting in the thread. I always found that amusing.

[The Avon Lady]

That's hardly consoling, considering the current view of the Cathoic Church on birth control...

"Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as "natural law."

However here I will draw my own line and not drag religion further into this...

You talk about religion and the announce that you won't talk about religion. :doh:

Not unlike members who post in a thread to let everyone know that they have no intention of posting in the thread. I always found that amusing.
I refuse to respond to posts such as Takeda's.

[DeepIron]

Takeda Shingen posted:
Not unlike members who post in a thread to let everyone know that they have no intention of posting in the thread. I always found that amusing.

No, I said I wouldn't drag <insert sensitive topic here> any further into the thread...:smug:


To quote him from a prior thread:
Many members are not up to the standards when they come to SubSim, but rather than call them names and drive them away, our members work to educate them and raise them to the level to which we are accustomed here. That is the difference.
Tsk, tsk. Takeda... You should really try and live up to your own standards... :up:

[Sailor Steve]

there shudnt be mexican flags in the united states... there shudnt be mexican curriculums in american schools....
There should be more attention paid to learning to read and write English properly; also to proper capitalization.

[kurtz]

We had three flagpoles outside our school. In my 4-5 years of being there, I never saw the Union Jack. We had Uganda, France and Germany, but never Britain.

:damn:

You of course mean the Union Flag...

[kurtz]

there shudnt be mexican flags in the united states... there shudnt be mexican curriculums in american schools.... There should be more attention paid to learning to read and write English properly; also to proper capitalization.

and also the use of the apostrophe..