View Full Version : Patch 1.4 is confirmed
Florida Sailor
09-25-07, 05:48 PM
Go to this link in the UBI forum for details:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/4511008295
Krazyfrenchman got a confirmation that patch 1.4 is being worked on.
bookworm_020
09-25-07, 05:58 PM
IF this is true and it does see the light of day.... YAHOOOO!!!!:rock::rock::rock:
Hawk_345
09-25-07, 06:12 PM
thats some serious news if its true:rock: :rock: :rock:
cant wait to hear more about it.
TDK1044
09-25-07, 06:41 PM
Confirmed by a Ubisoft Forum member who only this morning was asking everyone to call Ubisoft and demand that they start work on patch 1.4 and include his suggestions.
However, I think that official confirmation will come soon. :D
After months of mods/file tweeking,now we can fix everything with nothing,because UBI_1.4 patch:rock: Great NEWS ! It may have cost them,but saved face. God Bless Integerity.:sunny:
Capt. Shark Bait
09-25-07, 07:59 PM
:cool:. maybe TDK can sticky the thread i started re: 1.4 bits and pieces to be taken care of
Rockin Robbins
09-25-07, 08:57 PM
Confirmed by a Ubisoft Forum member who only this morning was asking everyone to call Ubisoft and demand that they start work on patch 1.4 and include his suggestions.You mean they rewarded that turkey by giving him some kind of scoop? They should have told him to go play Mario Bros and leave 'em alone!:nope:
First rule of economics: what you're willing to pay for, you get more of. Now they'll get more infantile behavior.
Captain, I think they have received your message, although a sticky wouldn't hurt. I'll bet they're already studying your thread closely.
John Channing
09-25-07, 09:38 PM
From what I can understand there is really no scoop. It seems to have come from UbiSoft support, not the devs.
We have had many hints about this from the men themselves, so I really don't know what all of the crowing is about.
Now... there are 4 DD's up there that require my attention.
JCC
A few people kept pointing out that there have been several hints regarding a new patch, but that didn't seem to matter.
SteamWake
09-25-07, 10:00 PM
Confirmed by a Ubisoft Forum member who only this morning was asking everyone to call Ubisoft and demand that they start work on patch 1.4 and include his suggestions.
However, I think that official confirmation will come soon. :D
Now thats funny ! :p
stuntcow
09-25-07, 10:04 PM
Here's Hoping but time will tell. I watch upward waiting to see what falls.....
TDK1044
09-26-07, 05:58 AM
:cool:. maybe TDK can sticky the thread i started re: 1.4 bits and pieces to be taken care of
Done. :D
Just when I had it finely tuned with all my favorite mods! :up:
Wilcke
DeepIron
09-26-07, 11:21 AM
Hopefully we can all keep a "dose of reality" (and civility) attached to this... Let's not give in to speculation shall we? It'll happen when/if it happens... :yep:
Just when I had it finely tuned with all my favorite mods!
Lol! Just when I was getting mine tuned too! :doh:
I just finished reading the 2 pages of threads on the UBI forum link at the beginning of this thread. My initial 2 thoughts:
1) Sounds more like a war between forum communities is starting.
2) They discount the crap out of the "Subsim.com" in those threads and I want to just say...who has "Stevens" in their stopwatch?
SteamWake
09-26-07, 11:48 AM
I just finished reading the 2 pages of threads on the UBI forum link at the beginning of this thread. My initial 2 thoughts:
1) Sounds more like a war between forum communities is starting.
2) They discount the crap out of the "Subsim.com" in those threads and I want to just say...who has "Stevens" in their stopwatch?
Meh... the UBI forums are a wreched hive of immature naysayers simply put. I put very little stock in anything over there.
As was said over there the modders and people whom work on this game post there out of curtosy.
As to "Stevens" being on the watch Im sure thats a mere coincidence :hmm:
Confirmed by a Ubisoft Forum member who only this morning was asking everyone to call Ubisoft and demand that they start work on patch 1.4 and include his suggestions.
However, I think that official confirmation will come soon. :D
Do we have to call or can there be a patch 1.4 suggestions thread here?
I guess it's the Ubisoft phone number on the back of the instructions booklet? I dont know the number.
Thanks, this is some sweet news.
Edit: I see there is a thread for bugs and fixes only, but what about a thread for suggestions?
Florida Sailor
09-26-07, 12:12 PM
Starting a conflict was never my intention when I started this thread. I only wished to inform the forum of what I thought was good news.
I am a member of both forums ( I'm dgrayson over there) and enjoy participating in both. If a couple of folks at the UBI forum got ugly, I apologize for their rudeness. This forum is the more professional of the two IMHO, but the UBI forum gets a lot of newbies, mostly because they don't know where else to go. You have to admit that you need to be more than a little bit knowledgeable, to participate here. UBI forum is very gentle and forgiving of newbie questions like "What is a MOD?" and is a little less "serious" than SUBSIM. The enemy is the IJN, not the other forum.
There are a few, make that very few, hot heads in both forums. Please don't let those few create a conflict where none should exist. Please stop the personal attacks and let us enjoy each others company. After all, isn't the game really about having fun.
ReallyDedPoet
09-26-07, 12:18 PM
Man this feels a lot like when SH4 first came out, or when patches, possible patches are announced, crap overload. Hopefully things will calm down a bit, sooner than later.
RDP
Capt. Shark Bait
09-26-07, 12:22 PM
:cool:. maybe TDK can sticky the thread i started re: 1.4 bits and pieces to be taken care of
Done. :D
thx TDK. go grab yerself a grog, laddie:ping:
I think 1.4 is required so they can flip that switch back on that has been allowing us to play without the disks... :rotfl:
I'd say the thread title is a misnomer until there is actually some official confirmation beyond rumblings from tech support and a couple vocal users.
On a side note, the commentary that follows on that thread (including an odd attack aimed at SubSim?) seems to call into question the quality of the folks who are posting over there in general... I'm not really sure what to make of it at this point.
mrbeast
09-26-07, 12:56 PM
Think this going to be a case of 'don't believe it until you see it'.
Skyhawk
09-26-07, 12:56 PM
Florida Sailor,
I respectfully beg to differ with your assessment and subsequent descriptions of the two forums. Over on the more "laid back" forum, I was permanently, and without any warning whatsoever banned, after I met sarcasm with sarcasm. Not a cursing, abusive rant mind you, just a bit of witty "fight fire with fire". "a little less serious than subsim", not from my perspective!
"If a couple of folks at the UBI forum got ugly, I apologize for their rudeness."
Apology accepted. No doubt it's as close to an apology as I'll ever get for the treatment I received over there.
I'll stay here (in spite of all the dual memberships between UBI and Subsim), since there doesn't seem to be any forgiveness or second chances on the UBI forums. You are either "in" or you're "out", state your case with too much fervor from the wrong side of the equation and "bye-bye". Cripe, if they held everyone over there to the same standard they held me, they'd be handing out permanent bans like candy right now. The double standard over there disgusts me.
Man this feels a lot like when SH4 first came out, or when patches, possible patches are announced, crap overload. Hopefully things will calm down a bit, sooner than later.
RDP
AMEN RDP :up:
AVGWarhawk
09-26-07, 01:08 PM
Like I posted before, if there is a new patch I'm in the bonus! The game is just fine with patch 1.3. To me, 1.4 is not a patch but a bonus pack of new material! But hey, that is just me. :D
Florida Sailor
09-26-07, 01:38 PM
Skyhawk, I would like to apologize personally to you directly for any ill treatment you experienced from the UBI forum.
I hold sarcasm as the highest form of humor and am a member of the National Sarcasm Society. Our motto is "Yeah, like we need your support":rotfl:
Krazyfrenchman asked me to post the following. I am honoring his request, unedited, in the spirit of congeniality and cooperation.
From krazyfrenchman:
You should seriously go visit the Complementary Bug Report thread on the official SH4 forum at this link: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/5721054265 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/5721054265)before writing comments that do not take into consideration the amount of important fixes needing the DEVTeam's attention. And since the call-in initiative thread on this forum was closed by TDK1044 without having read it carefully, well it seems that all the while you discuss, at least I'll do along with all those who want to participate with me, what needs to be done to raise people awareness on their wishing to be heard and included in discussion with Ubisoft SH4 Development Team.
capt_frank
09-26-07, 01:56 PM
I just loaded up ROW.
Wasn't that patch 1.4? :D
Damn, I'm lovin' it!
I can only think of the moding community, ouch here we go again. Of course I think its great the way it is but hey if they want to ad or fix more cool. Now Leo of course LIVES TO MOD and MODS TO LIVE so I’m sure he’ll be up late many more nights after the fact.
sqk7744
09-26-07, 02:05 PM
Great to know! thanks
:up:
TDK1044
09-26-07, 02:17 PM
And since the call-in initiative thread on this forum was closed by TDK1044 without having read it carefully, well it seems that all the while you discuss, at least I'll do along with all those who want to participate with me, what needs to be done to raise people awareness on their wishing to be heard and included in discussion with Ubisoft SH4 Development Team.
It was read very carefully and I'd close it again in a heartbeat.
This is all just bizarre to me... :-?
In this thread I seem to have stumbled upon:
1) announcement of maybe a patch
2) forum war
3) apparently the authoritative 1.4 patch features request thread (darn I guess I missed out)
4) a number of strange characters with issues
5) a call to arms that reads like a gas station embargo chain letter (and probably had about the same economic impact)
6) jilted and/or banned users
7) locked threads
8) clandestine Ubisoft customer support case files (I knew they were watching us :shifty: )
9) the official spokesperson of some French guy
Hawk_345
09-26-07, 02:23 PM
Like is said on the first page, if its true it is some serious news after they were saying 1.3 was last, but right now the game is stable and i can live with that, as long as the mods keep coming that is.
Its going to be a wait and see type of thing for a while yet.
John Channing
09-26-07, 02:26 PM
It really is a mystery to me this rivalry between the two forums. We both want the same things, we all share a common interest and it is in everyone's best interest that we keep the hobby alive and thriving.
Personally I welcome anyone who is interested in Subsims, new or old, newbie or vet. If someone has something positive to offer, if they can do it in a respectful manner then they are a honoured guest in this house.
On the other hand if people want to start or carry over vendettas from anywhere else against anyone else, then their stay here will be short and unpleasant.
Simple.
JCC
Frederf
09-26-07, 02:29 PM
Pardon my ignorance but did we need a 1.4 patch? I wasn't aware there were any huge problems that granted a torch & pitchfork (tm) type of emergency patch. Sure there's a lot of missing features but most are generally outside patch scope.
DeepIron
09-26-07, 02:31 PM
It really is a mystery to me this rivalry between the two forums.
No mystery John, it's just human nature... :damn: Forums are a representative microcosm of that behavior which, on a larger scale, can precipitate wars...
Now Aaron can add point 10 to his post:
10. Philosophical implications of software patches and their effect on basic human instincts and nature... :doh:
It really is a mystery to me this rivalry between the two forums.
No mystery John, it's just human nature... :damn: Forums are a representative microcosm of that behavior which, on a larger scale, can precipitate wars...
Now Aaron can add point 10 to his post:
10. Philosophical implications of software patches and their effect on basic human instincts and nature... :doh:
I was thinking I really needed to have an even 10 too, thanks!
DeepIron
09-26-07, 02:43 PM
Your welcome... You'd never catch Letterman or Leno doing less than 10... :up:
mookiemookie
09-26-07, 02:44 PM
Pardon my ignorance but did we need a 1.4 patch? I wasn't aware there were any huge problems that granted a torch & pitchfork (tm) type of emergency patch. Sure there's a lot of missing features but most are generally outside patch scope.
I agree. Just wait until the patch is released and all these little pet wishes and wants didn't get included. Oh you're in for some wailing and gnashing of teeth, I tell you bubba...
Your welcome... You'd never catch Letterman or Leno doing less than 10... :up:
Yeah, if you hadn't chipped in there I was gonna go back and add...
10) Really big speakers playing "We Will Rock You!"
John Channing
09-26-07, 02:45 PM
I agree. Just wait until the patch is released and all these little pet wishes and wants didn't get included. Oh you're in for some wailing and gnashing of teeth, I tell you bubba...
my head hurts...
AVGWarhawk
09-26-07, 02:51 PM
This is all just bizarre to me... :-?
In this thread I seem to have stumbled upon:
1) announcement of maybe a patch
2) forum war
3) apparently the authoritative 1.4 patch features request thread (darn I guess I missed out)
4) a number of strange characters with issues
5) a call to arms that reads like a gas station embargo chain letter (and probably had about the same economic impact)
6) jilted and/or banned users
7) locked threads
8) clandestine Ubisoft customer support case files (I knew they were watching us :shifty: )
9) the official spokesperson of some French guy
That is just beautiful....I got a good chuckle from this post.:up:
AVGWarhawk
09-26-07, 02:55 PM
Pardon my ignorance but did we need a 1.4 patch? I wasn't aware there were any huge problems that granted a torch & pitchfork (tm) type of emergency patch. Sure there's a lot of missing features but most are generally outside patch scope.
I agree here. If there is a patch then in all reality it is bonus material.
Florida Sailor
09-26-07, 02:56 PM
And since the call-in initiative thread on this forum was closed by TDK1044 without having read it carefully, well it seems that all the while you discuss, at least I'll do along with all those who want to participate with me, what needs to be done to raise people awareness on their wishing to be heard and included in discussion with Ubisoft SH4 Development Team.
It was read very carefully and I'd close it again in a heartbeat.
Sir, I posted the unedited words of Krazyfrenchman as a favor. They are not my words. To paraphrase the broadcast media " The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the policy or opinions of the poster."
Florida Sailor
09-26-07, 03:06 PM
My hope is that they will fix the only major bug that still exists. That is the International Dateline bug, in which torpedos are missing from the attack map if you start your patrol in Pearl Harbor and cross the IDL. TTM fixes this by starting you out a hundred miles West of the IDL. It works, but I would like to start at the dock. They fix that one in 1.4 and I will consider the game a finished product.
Sir, I posted the unedited words of Krazyfrenchman as a favor. They are not my words. To paraphrase the broadcast media " The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the policy or opinions of the poster."
Did I miss something?
Did the French-dude get banned?
Man, you guys are harsh!
I gotta get me a spokesperson.
E... B... Zippit... zip... zipp... just have your people talk to my people.
AVGWarhawk
09-26-07, 03:14 PM
Here's my bag with all of this:
There was enough hint dropping over the past two months that a patch was forthcoming. Now KFM comes along and asks people to start calling over and over demanding a patch to be made. Perhaps that is why they call him KFM. I'm not sure. So yesterday KFM makes one phone call and shazam, he gets the answer he is looking for. An answer that was here all along. Moving along...do we start pestering the hell out of the developers with demands of this and that as it was with 1.3? No, we leave them alone like they were the last two months to look at the forums for trouble spots in the game, area of improvement that are coming from the end users. Lets put this puppy to bed and let the developers do what they need to do in peace.
I shut up now.
AVGWarhawk
09-26-07, 03:16 PM
Sir, I posted the unedited words of Krazyfrenchman as a favor. They are not my words. To paraphrase the broadcast media " The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the policy or opinions of the poster."
Did I miss something?
Did the French-dude get banned?
Man, you guys are harsh!
I gotta get me a spokesperson.
E... B... Zippit... zip... zipp... just have your people talk to my people.
French dude is over at the UBI forums. He is more than welcome here like anyone else. As long as the rules are followed....disclaimer:roll:
Rockin Robbins
09-26-07, 03:21 PM
Like I posted before, if there is a new patch I'm in the bonus! The game is just fine with patch 1.3. To me, 1.4 is not a patch but a bonus pack of new material! But hey, that is just me. :D
And me too. I'm curious, but not needy. I'm happy now and I expect to be even happier when the patch is released.
Rockin Robbins
09-26-07, 03:31 PM
From krazyfrenchman:
You should seriously go visit the Complementary Bug Report thread on the official SH4 forum at this link: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/5721054265 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/5721054265)before writing comments that do not take into consideration the amount of important fixes needing the DEVTeam's attention. And since the call-in initiative thread on this forum was closed by TDK1044 without having read it carefully, well it seems that all the while you discuss, at least I'll do along with all those who want to participate with me, what needs to be done to raise people awareness on their wishing to be heard and included in discussion with Ubisoft SH4 Development Team.
And I'll repeat what I said in that wisely closed thread: if we want to act in our own best interest, and if we wish future subsims to be released we will not engage in actions intended to be confrontational and costly to those whose actions are already benefiting us. We know the patch is already in progress, thanks to membership in the superior forum, which obviously commands more respect from Ubi than their own forum (and for good reason). Making those calls will simply label us as customers Ubi would rather not have. They certainly do not need us. We are good for minimal profit at best.
If the call-in program succeeds the next subsim will have to be written and produced by krazyfrenchman, and he can't program his way to the toilet. Either that or Electronic Arts will take a shot at it and that would be the end of subsims as we know them. If we participate in this infantile temper tantrum we are participating in the destruction of the computer simulation game category. Anybody in favor of that?
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Either that or Electronic Arts will take a shot at it and that would be the end of Subsims as we know them.
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Hey, don't count out EA! http://www.xl-logic.com/emoticon/fight.gif
I'm pullin for em!
If SuperBike is any indication of what they might could do for a sub sim... :hmm:
I also still have hope for Firaxis.
...my first EA game was something called, "Mail Order Monsters" :hulk:
TDK1044
09-26-07, 05:43 PM
Guys, this is all just too funny for words. :D What happened was that a member of the Ubi Forum, appropriately named Krazy frenchman, created a thread to gather ideas and suggestions for patch 1.4. So far, an excellent idea.
Now, because he didn't hear anything from the Devs regarding his ideas, or from Ubisoft confirming that patch 1.4 was under development, he became furious and then initiated a 'call to action' thread on the Ubi forum, and he had a member here also post a copy of the same thread. This 'call to action' thread stated that everyone should call their respective Ubisoft call center every hour, and keep calling them and pestering them until they confirmed that they were indeed working on patch 1.4 and that the Devs would listen to his and other members ideas regarding the patch.
Finally, as if this isn't funny enough, this guy then posts a thread on the Ubi forum announcing that he can confirm patch 1.4 based on the fact that he had called the Ubi call center, in fact he's proud of the fact that they have a big file on him....it doesn't occur to him that the reason for the file is less than flattering.... anyway, he speaks with a call center rep who tells him that patch 1.4 is in development.
So now our hero posts another thread in the Ubi forum announcing that patch 1.4 is confirmed. No Devs have confirmed the patch; nobody from Ubisoft management has confirmed the patch; but because a call center rep wanted to get rid of this guy, while adding another entry to his large file, the patch is confirmed. :D
Most of us here know that it's highly likely that patch 1.4 has been in development for some time. We also know that the Devs will confirm the patch at the appropriate time.
SteamWake
09-27-07, 02:01 PM
Mildly amusing at best.
What I dont understand is why does the dev team feel it is necessary to keep a tight lid on things. Why cant they just say "Yes were working on a patch, No we dont know when it will be done ".
Are they trying to avoid the nattering naybobs whining and cavetching "WHEN !". Or "YOU DIDENT FIX THIS". :hmm:
Or perhaps its more nefarious and they get a certian 'kick' out of watching the conjecture and posturing on the various forums.
John Channing
09-27-07, 04:20 PM
Nothing nefarious about it at all.
With the way (some) people behaved pre and post 1.01, 1.02 and 1.04 I am not at all surprised that they have stayed quiet about a possible 1.04.
Frankly I cringed everytime a hint was dropped about 1.04 as I was awaiting a resurgence of the immature foolishness that seems to attend the release of any new patch or product.
If the developers wish to keep it low key I say let's respect their wishes. They have always been fair and open with us so I am sure they have their reasons.
JCC
CDR Resser
09-27-07, 04:48 PM
I personally think that the DEVS have been working on SH4 so long that the operations necessary for successful submarine warfare have become thoroughly ingrained. They are observing, gathering intelligence, determining course and speed, sizing up the capabilities of the escorts and determining the best potential targets. They will wait for the right moment and then with a well aimed salvo of torpedoes accomplish their mission.:D
I must admit, though, it is rather unnerving just waiting for the "attack".:-?
Respectfully Submitted
CDR Resser
I have to admit, knowing it is on the horizon makes me want to wait to do any modding as well.
Don't want to have to undo anything.
tater
I can always tell when a new patch is being worked on. When everyone but the devs are insisting there will probably be no more patches.
-Pv-
mookiemookie
09-27-07, 08:24 PM
And I'll repeat what I said in that wisely closed thread: if we want to act in our own best interest, and if we wish future subsims to be released we will not engage in actions intended to be confrontational and costly to those whose actions are already benefiting us. We know the patch is already in progress, thanks to membership in the superior forum, which obviously commands more respect from Ubi than their own forum (and for good reason). Making those calls will simply label us as customers Ubi would rather not have. They certainly do not need us. We are good for minimal profit at best.
If the call-in program succeeds the next subsim will have to be written and produced by krazyfrenchman, and he can't program his way to the toilet. Either that or Electronic Arts will take a shot at it and that would be the end of subsims as we know them. If we participate in this infantile temper tantrum we are participating in the destruction of the computer simulation game category. Anybody in favor of that?
HEAR HEAR! :()1:
It pains me to see people in the Ubi forums hailing this baloonhead like a hero.
SteamWake
09-27-07, 09:03 PM
Nothing nefarious about it at all.
With the way (some) people behaved pre and post 1.01, 1.02 and 1.04 I am not at all surprised that they have stayed quiet about a possible 1.04.
Frankly I cringed everytime a hint was dropped about 1.04 as I was awaiting a resurgence of the immature foolishness that seems to attend the release of any new patch or product.
If the developers wish to keep it low key I say let's respect their wishes. They have always been fair and open with us so I am sure they have their reasons.
JCC
My point exactly ! :rock:
Sonarman
09-28-07, 04:57 AM
Either that or Electronic Arts will take a shot at it and that would be the end of subsims as we know them.
I'm not so sure about that either, they did publish 688, and Sub Command after all and this (http://www.railsimulator.com/) (although really not my cup of tea) looks pretty much like a true simulator to me
FooFighters
09-28-07, 05:39 AM
And I'll repeat what I said in that wisely closed thread: if we want to act in our own best interest, and if we wish future subsims to be released we will not engage in actions intended to be confrontational and costly to those whose actions are already benefiting us. We know the patch is already in progress, thanks to membership in the superior forum, which obviously commands more respect from Ubi than their own forum (and for good reason). Making those calls will simply label us as customers Ubi would rather not have. They certainly do not need us. We are good for minimal profit at best.
If the call-in program succeeds the next subsim will have to be written and produced by krazyfrenchman, and he can't program his way to the toilet. Either that or Electronic Arts will take a shot at it and that would be the end of subsims as we know them. If we participate in this infantile temper tantrum we are participating in the destruction of the computer simulation game category. Anybody in favor of that?
HEAR HEAR! :()1:
It pains me to see people in the Ubi forums hailing this baloonhead like a hero.
I totally agree with you..
I always learned that giving respect earns respect..
Calling ubi (or a callcenter :rotfl: ) every hour doesn't show respect.
The callcenter chick probably never heard of silent hunter IV :p
Don't get me wrong, I want patch 1.4.
But done (and confirmed) properly by the devs, they have earned my respect !
Von Tonner
09-28-07, 08:04 AM
I have to admit, knowing it is on the horizon makes me want to wait to do any modding as well.
Don't want to have to undo anything.
tater
This is what I was thinking as well. Modders such as Tater, Ducimus, Berry, Sobe, et al pulled this game out the fire. Hell, Ducimus was even mentioned in a mag revue as one reason for gamers to go out and buy the game even with all its faults. Surley gratitude if not common respect could be given by the devs to keep them in the loop. Think about it, these guys with ROW busting a gut on working on their mod only to have patch 1.4 come out a few hours later. Surely the devs could pm them and say "lay up guys, we are coming out Monday so enjoy your weekend". Just my thoughts.
And as for the spat between posters on this forum and Ubi's, well the less said about it the better.
Rockin Robbins
09-28-07, 08:13 AM
Either that or Electronic Arts will take a shot at it and that would be the end of subsims as we know them.
I'm not so sure about that either, they did publish 688, and Sub Command after all and this (http://www.railsimulator.com/) (although really not my cup of tea) looks pretty much like a true simulator to me
I'm only busting on EA because of what they did with NASCAR when they bought the rights, putting Papyrus out of business. Papyrus had a simulation. EA purchased the rights from NASCAR, putting Papyrus out of business, even preventing them from continuing to sell their program. Then EA proceeded to produce an arcade game with soap opera fluff to make it "more exciting." Here we are four years later and the Papyrus sim is still vastly superior. Just ask Denny Hamlin.
Fantasy break!
So after Ubi brands us as crybaby losers who can't turn a profit for them, EA comes out with the next subsim:
Electronic Arts
Presents
FORUM WARS
SteamWake
09-28-07, 08:22 AM
Then EA proceeded to produce an arcade game with soap opera fluff to make it "more exciting." Here we are four years later and the Papyrus sim is still vastly superior. Just ask Denny Hamlin.
Yup after grand prix legends it was all down hill. Funny thing is GPL dident do well cause it was hard to drive :hmm:
Uber Gruber
09-28-07, 11:21 AM
Yup after grand prix legends it was all down hill. Funny thing is GPL dident do well cause it was hard to drive
Ahhhh...GPL....what a great game that was...actually is, its still going strong with a brilliant modding community. I think I might even fire it up this weekend, you can almost taste the burning rubber as you side slide out of the bends:up:
I shall believe the 1.4 patch when I see it until then no further comment. :smug:
AVGWarhawk
09-28-07, 12:25 PM
You can see the patch here Steed:
http://acadies-art.sparrowzworld.net/tut-jean-patch/jeans-patch021.jpg
:shifty:
Florida Sailor
09-28-07, 01:32 PM
I just needed to be sure that UBI was really working on 1.4, so I called. They were very nice and told me they were indeed working on a 1.4 patch. They had no information on the contents of the patch nor were they able to give any time frame. I spoke with Fred and he indicated that they were aware of the major issues. I thanked Fred for his time and for providing the infomation. It was a very friendly and cordial call. This was only my second call to UBI since I bought the game, so I don't think they were trying to blow me off. Looks like all the rumors were true.
Not that I don't believe you... certainly good news an all.
Did Fred happen to have any insight as to why it's not mentioned somewhere on the Ubi website? ...er you just didn't think to ask.
My experience with call center techs in general has been that I'm not exactly dealing with folks at the pinnacle of their career so to speak. Personally, I've only dealt with the Ubi-techs in reference to Starforce... once... and that was enough for me. (please no SF follow-up commentaries, too painful... I still mourne the passing of my Sony drive)
Florida Sailor
09-28-07, 01:47 PM
No, the only info he had was what I just reported above. I did ask. but he had no idea. He sounded like he was reading from a memo and when I asked the first question he gave me the answer right away, less than 3 seconds, so it must have been right in front of him. He was very pleasant and I did not feel comfortable with trying to interrogate him. It's not my style. As I said, it was a friendly call and he seemed busy. I got my answers, thanked him and ended the call.
leovampire
09-28-07, 01:48 PM
You can see the patch here Steed:
http://acadies-art.sparrowzworld.net/tut-jean-patch/jeans-patch021.jpg
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captiandon
09-28-07, 02:06 PM
You can see the patch here Steed:
http://acadies-art.sparrowzworld.net/tut-jean-patch/jeans-patch021.jpg
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:o:rotfl: Verry funny :D
THE_MASK
09-28-07, 03:31 PM
If there was a 1.4 patch then that would be great . If not then , i wasnt really expecting one anyway .
AVGWarhawk
09-28-07, 03:34 PM
If there was a 1.4 patch then that would be great . If not then , i wasnt really expecting one anyway .
So if one does not show up then there will be no big disappointment? None for me either. Just a great bonus.
Capt. Shark Bait
09-28-07, 06:03 PM
You can see the patch here Steed:
http://acadies-art.sparrowzworld.net/tut-jean-patch/jeans-patch021.jpg
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WOOHOOoooo, but there's no release date and i. want. it. nooooww!!!!
SteamWake
09-28-07, 10:36 PM
Doh ! yall totally messed up my derailing of the thread with the discussion on the now defunct Papyrus.... Whats a troll to do :cool:
neumanf15
09-28-07, 11:01 PM
And here, I thought TM 1.6 WAS version 1.4 of SHIV... It fixed just about everything I wanted fixed... Ubi needs to pay Ducimus for his work and import it into the "official" 1.4.
chopped50ford
09-29-07, 12:08 AM
Hurray...I hope it's not dissappointing:shifty:
I sure hope the "out of fuel" issue is addresed:up:
Onkel Neal
09-29-07, 01:44 AM
If there was a 1.4 patch then that would be great . If not then , i wasnt really expecting one anyway .
You're in for a big surprise, then :cool:
Capt. Shark Bait
09-29-07, 06:25 AM
Doh ! yall totally messed up my derailing of the thread with the discussion on the now defunct Papyrus.... Whats a troll to do :cool:
start over?:arrgh!:
Takeda Shingen
09-29-07, 07:10 AM
If there was a 1.4 patch then that would be great . If not then , i wasnt really expecting one anyway .
You're in for a big surprise, then :cool:
Straight from our man. That should just about close the discussion prior to actually seeing the patch.
Rockin Robbins
09-29-07, 08:22 AM
Doh ! yall totally messed up my derailing of the thread with the discussion on the now defunct Papyrus.... Whats a troll to do :cool:
You derailed my derailment!:nope:
I hope it's soon since knowing about it for sure makes me not feel like modding :D
tater
OK, who am I kidding, I'll just mod different things :D
tater
AVGWarhawk
09-29-07, 09:36 AM
@Tater.....you get back to that new campaign layers mod!!!! Oh yeah, I was reading on what the submarines called "Convoy College". As spot I believe in the China Sea around 1943 that was loaded with convoys. I can dig some more up on it if you want and send you over what I found. Could be a nice addition to the year and area with your mod!
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