Who REALLY controls the USA

[elite_hunter_sh3]

"It all started 40 years ago. On June 8, 1967, the U.S. commander in chief, President Lyndon B. Johnson, turned his back on the crew of a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Liberty, despite the fact that the ship was under deadly assault by Israel’s air and sea forces. The Israelis were engaged in an ugly scheme to lure America into their war against Arab states. They tried to destroy the Liberty and its entire crew, then pin the blame on the Arabs. This, they reasoned, would outrage the American people and immediately lead the United States to join Israel’s battle against Arabs.
The scheme almost worked. It failed because, despite the carefully planned multipronged assault, the Liberty crew managed to broadcast an SOS over a makeshift antenna. When the appeal reached U.S. aircraft carriers nearby, the commanders immediately launched fighter planes to defend the ship. Informed of the launch, President Johnson ordered the rescue planes to turn back immediately.
For the first time in history, forces of the U.S. Navy were denied the right to defend a Navy ship under attack. Johnson said, "I don’t care if the ship sinks, I am not going to embarrass an ally." Those were his exact words, heard by Navy personnel listening to radio relays.
The ally Johnson refused to embarrass was Israel. "

http://www.sj-r.com/sections/opinion/stories/116094.asp

dont want a heated arguement.. just a normal debate :up:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.co m%2Fhasen%2Fspages%2F894644.html

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/883947.html
your already draining the USA billions of dollars for your personal agendas now war?? :doh:


"We must prevent this nightmare," Meridor said at the "Night to Honor Israel" event, part of the second annual Christians United for Israel summit in Washington, D.C. "The world must act and act now."

Meridor said Israel would take any steps necessary to ensure that Iran does not develop a nuclear bomb. "All options are on the table, and no matter what, they will not be able to get a nuclear weapon," he said.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=801449&contrassID=19

and you call America racist :roll:

i have some questions

1. Why does america have to fight wars for israel (same for canada)...
2. if israel is so panicked about Iran and syria.. why dont they attack them??? why the USA????

i mean israel already has nukes,already has american military hardware, f-15s, f-18s f-16s , laser guided bombs, bunker busters, cruise missiles and ICBMS.... why havent you attacked Iran yet and "disarmed" them?? they are a threat arent they???

"who Rules America"
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http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html

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[elite_hunter_sh3]

if you dont have anything that even relates to the topic then shut it and leave.... go hijack another thread... thanks:roll:

now.. who was in the argument again???

[nikimcbee]

My guess is Disney:rock: maybe Ronald Mcdonald.:rotfl:

[The Avon Lady]

Ho hum. Our already know anti-Semitic forum putz has another brain fart. So what else is new?!

Anyway, my monthly "Elders" check is in the mail, so what the heck!

[The Avon Lady]

To the baffoon thread starter, if you honestly seek "source and witness documented" (that's the clincher terminology) about the USS Liberty, buy Judge A. Jay Cristol's book The Liberty Incident: The 1967 Attack on the U.S. Navy Spy Ship (http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Incident-1967-Attack-U-S/dp/157488414X/ref=sr_1_1/102-2017472-0844116?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190609158&sr=1-1). Everything you quoted and linked to is Jew hating wishful thinking.

But you won't because you have a stronger interest, which I've just mentioned. :yep:

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get my children's horns polished and sharpened before they go off to school.

[kiwi_2005]

Easy, G W Bush :smug:

:rotfl:

:roll:

[The Avon Lady]

Easy, G W Bush :smug:

:rotfl:

:roll:
Um, I'm Barbara. George is getting the knot out of his tie. We have this every morning.

[kiwi_2005]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4n7WyrB0G8


:rotfl:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I say Cheney is running this country and this so called "war on terror":roll: :nope: . Bush , he's just a puppet with an IQ of -1,000,000,000,000 if there is such a number:doh: :doh: . He's spending billions of tax payers money on this damned war!!! And there is no real end in sight. We keep hearing of these so called troop withdrawls but when, WHEN!!! This war has failed both militarly and politicly. What now? In Afganistan where this all started there must be a sign somewhere that says "Iraq. Turn left and go 1,000 miles that way" Bush as been saying that God is going to help us win this war but if God wanted this war to end he would not of created man because all men at one point or another go to kill each other. Isn't on of the ten commandments is "Thou shall not kill"?:doh:

[kiwi_2005]

Isn't on of the ten commandments is "Thou shall not kill"?:doh:

But then further in the bible it says "A Time for war and a time for peace" So i think when its a war its different. Thou shall not kill, might mean dont go out and murder someone over a handbag or whatever:hmm:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I guess that is true but people do that anyways or we might not have crime and such nonsence like that.

[The Avon Lady]

Isn't on of the ten commandments is "Thou shall not kill"?:doh:

But then further in the bible
Stop. Look no further. For the umpteenth time, it specifically says in the 10 Commandments "Thou shall not murder" - not "thou shall not kill."

[kiwi_2005]

Isn't on of the ten commandments is "Thou shall not kill"?:doh:
But then further in the bible Stop. Look no further. For the umpteenth time, it specifically says in the 10 Commandments "Thou shall not murder" - not "thou shall not kill."

Ahh no. Jesus said thou shall not murder, Moses was given the tablets with 'Thou shall not kill'.Maybe you got Moses mixed up with Jesus ;)

[nikimcbee]

My guess is Disney:rock: maybe Ronald Mcdonald.:rotfl:

So It's not Mcdonalds? hhmm?:|\\
Okay, how about the jack-in-the box guy.

[nikimcbee]

I really want to respond to this troll thread, 'cause I have a great responce, but I'm going to take the high ground and say nothing, besides I don't want to have my avatar photo changed.:arrgh!:

I say: bomb this thread!!!:up:

[P_Funk]

Ho hum. Our already know anti-Semitic forum putz has another brain fart. So what else is new?! Spare us the same BS assertion that criticism of Israel is anti-semitism. Its rather cowardly and pathetic to throw that around. Its also an ad hominem attack at the man rather than the argument.

Just link another irrelavent article already and spare us your pejoratives.

i have some questions

1. Why does america have to fight wars for israel (same for canada)...
2. if israel is so panicked about Iran and syria.. why dont they attack them??? why the USA????

i mean israel already has nukes,already has american military hardware, f-15s, f-18s f-16s , laser guided bombs, bunker busters, cruise missiles and ICBMS.... why havent you attacked Iran yet and "disarmed" them?? they are a threat arent they??? For my own unpopular and soon to be flamed POV:

1. America invests in Israel as a satellite for its foreign policy in the Middle East which has been since the end of the 2nd World War essentially the same as that of the now defunkt British Empire: control of critical regional resources for the purpose of exploiting them for their own benefit. So wars that favour Israel favour America, in theory.

2. Panic at Syria and Iran are all mythological. Ever since the mid 70s Israel hasn't faced a serious threat from anyone in the world. They entire policy since the war of 1973 was to secure their predominance in the region. This could be seen as a form of Imprerialism for of aggressive self defense: you cannot be attacked if you control all the players. It is most likely both. Ever since Egypt offered Israel peace and Israel refused and chose to continue occupying lands Israel has been an aggressive expansionist force. The statement that they are simply interested in security is rather weak when you look at the fact that they could have taken a peaceful solution at that time and chose more war. It was pragmatic self-serviance, and not on a level that means peace predominantly.

So the threat from Iran isn't one of annihilation but simply dissolution of their lone dominant power which they've had since the 70s. Israel chose the hostile overpowering approach to diplomacy and as a result their neighbours aren't as complicant as they wish. Does this mean Iran will annihilate Israel? Doubtful since their self-interest is better served by growth of their economy. They might bandy about lots of very provocative alnguage but they aren't as stupid as they're made to be. The US, however, seems more stupid and willing to destroy the entire world economy by attacking Iran and creating the worst oil crisis in history.

Like I said, wars for Israel benefit America, in theory.

[nikimcbee]

...Runs to protective cover, puts on helmut, pulls out radio:
"McBee to subsim headquarters, stupid troll thread sighted."
calls in coordinates
"Fire for effect!"

USS Texas
"Copy That"
Battleship shells reign down on thread:arrgh!:

[nikimcbee]

My guess is Disney:rock: maybe Ronald Mcdonald.:rotfl:
my 3rd guess:
http://www.clintoncards.co.uk/images/instore/trolls1.jpg

[nikimcbee]

My guess is Disney:rock: maybe Ronald Mcdonald.:rotfl:
my 3rd guess:
http://www.clintoncards.co.uk/images/instore/trolls1.jpg

my fourth guess:
http://swindlemagazine.com/images/trolls.png

[antikristuseke]

The first articl,e the one we are suposedly to sue to debate who really rules the USA, is bull****. Pure and simple bull****.