Iranian Navy, where are the ships?

[XabbaRus]

Looking at that news article and he mentions the new destroyer Jamaran. Where is it? Can't find any pictures of it.

[Letum]

What? where?

News article?

[The Avon Lady]

Maybe the ships will only appear with the 12th Mahdi. :hmm:

[AntEater]

Haven't heard that ship name, but Iran recently has started building reverse-engineered Vosper Frigates (more Corvettes) like the one sunk during operation Praying Mantis.
Iranian media called those ships "destroyers".

I suppose it is either:
- deliberate propaganda
- mistranslation from Farsi, maybe there's only one word for "warship" in Farsi

Except for a scale model and some unclear google earth images from Bandar Abbas, not much is known about those ships.

They have pretty much the same armament as the old ones (guns, ASMs, no SAMs), but more modern equipment of chinese manufacture, same as the british build boats were upgraded with.
Iran also reverse-engineered the french Commandante type missile boat, formerly known in the german navy as type 148 and in the Israeli Navy as Sa'ar 1.
Pretty much same story there: Iran got some under the Shah, lost one or two to the US navy, upgraded the rest with chinese missiles and build some new ones.

I wonder why they bother building new surface combatants anyway.
Preying Mantis should have showed them than anything larger than a small boat will not last long against the US navy.
The Iranians are adopting a strong assymetric approach with small boats, mines and land based ASMs, but with such a navy, even Combattantes are a waste of money and small Frigates seem a bit useless to me.

But I suppose as long as a navy exists, naval officers will want to have sleek grey ships from which they can proudly fly their flag.
:D

[XabbaRus]

Here is the article

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8606310557

The Peykan is the reverse engineered Combattante. The other I mentioned might eb the Vosper but doesn't appear on any ship list on the internet.

[The WosMan]

Nothing the Virginia or Texas couldn't take care of.

[AntEater]

If the Texas or Virginia didnt hit a moored mine before or can't maneuver because of shallow waters.
Airpower is much more efficient at taking those out in coastal waters.
But principally you're right. Those ships won't last five minutes into a real shooting war with the US. If iran sails them or if the US navy thinks they're worth taking out as nuclear , air and air defense facilities surely have a higher priority in the first waves.
In principle, the same goes for every surface warships without AEGIS like capabilities today. They're all quite dead if sailing unsupported under enemy air supriority.

If you seriously plan on taking the US, you should go for all assymetric warfare, everything else just diverts their attention and kills your own people.

[Skybird]

Their surface warships I do not fear. Their shiploads of land-based ASW missiles in the street of Hormuz, and their Diesel-U-boats - that is something different.

I am wondering in what shape those Kilos are. If maintained properly, and commanded competently, they should make formidable coast defense platforms in shallow water.

[nikimcbee]

I really hope (If we wind up fighting them) They(US Armed forces) let our subs take out their subs. If we take out their Navy with a preemtive strike, that would be lame!:shifty: