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Foghladh_mhara
09-19-07, 02:25 PM
Taskforce in sight west of Spain. November 1939. Estimated speed 18 knots. U-46 is sitting perpindicular to their course and approx 800m outside the projected path of the port escort. There are 4 destroyers fore, aft, port and starboard and another doing mad sprints on the other side of the group. Distance to taskforce about 5000m.

And in the middle? 2 Battleships and 2 light cruisers!!! One looks like the Nelson (3 big guns on her bow) and the other is possibly a Revenge class or possibly the Prince of Wales. I cant see a second stack so I dont think so but the angle is tight.

The big, big problem is that the sea is so calm and its only 1500 hours so plenty of light left. Therefore a surfaced attack is out of the question cos I only just got a new boat and I dont want to scratch it yet :D I'm paranoid about even having the scope up for more than 3 or 4 secs. I'm prob being a bit over cautious but I've come straight from a career that ended in 1943 so I'm a bit nervous about escort capabilities. The second problem is that I'm only loaded with G7A's so a bubble stream could be seen in the calm seas.

My dilemma is this. I'm greedy :arrgh!:

I naturally want to sink both Battleships. As I see it my ideal scenario is a 2 torp hit on each, dive to depth and evade. The initial hit will either knock them out (unlikely) or slow them down. If the latter occurs and even knocks a couple of knots off their speed I can follow and flank eventually. The downside is that to hit both I need to fire at the furthermost BS first and then follow with the second salvo. Best case it works, worst case however is that the wake is seen crossing the nearest BS and all ships evade. What the hell to do???

So then my fellow Kaleuns what would you do? A double tap at each and cross your fingers or a full salvo at the nearest Battleship and practically ensure a sinking? This is of course assuming the escorts dont detect me and send me to the bottom. The game is paused!!

Oh and I threw out my initial plan to put 1 eel into each of the BS's and cruisers. Seemed a little too optimistic:D

Canovaro
09-19-07, 02:53 PM
Fire all four at the first battleship, then evade. That's what I would do.

Hartmann
09-19-07, 03:14 PM
Fire all to one battleship

i was in the same situation with my ix-B boat and i fired a first salvo of 6 torpedoes to the battleship and after some time with depth charges i was able to finish her with two more torpedoes.

if you fire 2 torpedoes to each ship probably donīt cause enough damage to slow down his speed and probably they could scape.

is better one bird in the hand than 100 flying :rotfl:

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TarJak
09-19-07, 03:23 PM
I'd go along with these guys advice. Get one almost certain sinking that two possibles.

Avatar
09-19-07, 03:43 PM
Or....
you could get gawdy and fire all four at the closest BB, then swing your stern tubes to bear on the second BB. :arrgh!:

But be prepared to get pummeled!


wait, this may be too risky. Besides, the speed of the task force may be too much for your boat to swing around in time.

edit: nevermind, I misread that youre in a Type VII

astat333
09-19-07, 03:43 PM
it's what a real u-boat captain should have done in ww2.
if you want to play the simulation, go for a single BB.

if you want to fool around, try and load until you manage to get a magnetic hit onto both. :p:p

Foghladh_mhara
09-19-07, 03:44 PM
Went greedy. 2 eels at each and down like the clappers!! 2 impacts. Lurked in the depths for a while and came back to periscope depth. End result 1 Revenge class Battleship sitting dead in the water. Put the stern eel into her and down she went. A 50% return

Avatar
09-19-07, 03:47 PM
Hey, thats one BB out of the picture!:rock:

Congrats!:yep:

Brag
09-19-07, 04:31 PM
Fire all four at the first battleship, then evade. That's what I would do.

Me too!
Don't be greedy :cool:

Brag
09-19-07, 04:34 PM
Fire all four at the first battleship, then evade. That's what I would do.

Me too!
Don't be greedy :cool:

Oh well, too late. Congratahoochies, Fogh. Well done! The Vaterland is proud of you. :D

Hartmann
09-19-07, 04:37 PM
Congratulations !!

A capital unit very difficult to replace in time for the war. :up:

klh
09-19-07, 05:00 PM
Fire all four at the first battleship, then evade. That's what I would do.

Ditto.

You got lucky. Greed will often leave you with no tonnage or worse - killed.

Foghladh_mhara
09-19-07, 06:07 PM
You got lucky. Greed will often leave you with no tonnage or worse - killed.

Lucky?? Lucky!!! Kaleun Alois Janus does not deal in luck my friend. The plot was compiled with the utmost attention and carried out with the utmost flair!! If luck must play her part then it was on on the side of the perfidious Britons aboard the the Nelson who passed within a whisker of their end. :arrgh!:

minute
09-20-07, 04:28 AM
I've been in a similar situation before, with a TF of two Revenge BBs lined up.

Instead of firing at long range, I pushed up to flank 7knots when I was about 1.8km away. Sure, the alarm went up and hell broke loose but I was in a good position and I managed to cover about 900m before the escorts managed to close in.

The BBs were zi-zagging heavily but from less than 1km they stood no chance. I fired 2 slow torps to the closest one and two fast to the other one. Then I managed to swing a stern shoot as well before the destroyer closed in.

It caught me at 40m depth, I got some pounding, three bow tubes went out, but all torps hit. One Revenge (the one that took three hits) sunk in 10 minutes.

The second one I found in the morning dead in the water heavy listing on the starbord side. One more torpedo from the remaining tube finished her fate