Muslim Strategy Aims for Rule of Islam in Europe

[SUBMAN1]

An interesting read. Sounds like what is happening in Europe all right! :-?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10341241

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465349/posts

-S

[The Avon Lady]

Nothing new.

Good luck, Britain (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018102.php). Within no help from this dhimmi (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018107.php). :nope:

[antikristuseke]

Some parts of thaose texts are scarily similar to the "reasoning" behing the holocaust.

[The Avon Lady]

Some parts of thaose texts are scarily similar to the "reasoning" behing the holocaust.
Please explain.

[Letum]

Some parts of thaose texts are scarily similar to the "reasoning" behing the holocaust.

You think they are close?!

Wait until Skybird finds this topic!

[HMCS]

It's scary, I have to admit. Here in Canada, we have an insane immigration policy, and I witness some of the effects first hand- I work in the health care system (Psychiatry), and I can't believe what this country is ready to "take in".

Take that, as well as the almost pathological Canadian obsession with accomodating and pandering to every whining "special" group, and you have a recipe for what is happening in the U.K. There was a big push by Muslims in Ontario to force Shariah law in Ontario, and in a town in Quebec the press was taking a harsh view of a group of Quebecers who wanted to legislate assimilation, in opposition to Muslim demands for "accomodation".

[SUBMAN1]

It's scary, I have to admit. Here in Canada, we have an insane immigration policy, and I witness some of the effects first hand- I work in the health care system (Psychiatry), and I can't believe what this country is ready to "take in".

Take that, as well as the almost pathological Canadian obsession with accomodating and pandering to every whining "special" group, and you have a recipe for what is happening in the U.K. There was a big push by Muslims in Ontario to force Shariah law in Ontario, and in a town in Quebec the press was taking a harsh view of a group of Quebecers who wanted to legislate assimilation, in opposition to Muslim demands for "accomodation".

Damn media these days.

-S

[TteFAboB]

Once we are finished converting the elites, the masses will follow through eagerly. Pressed from the top and from the bottom, few will resist.

Do not stop at the 80's. Our project dates back 1400 years. But fair enough, if you want action plans, go back a few more decades to the 1920's and talk to René Guénon, the man who set out to Islamize Europe, and his sucessor, Fritjof Schuon, the followers of whom hunt the cultural elite of Europe, America and world abroad, searching for the most talented individuals to bring to their sect, and after convincing them that all religions but Islam have degenerated gravely, Islam becomes the only option left.

And then the people will read it in the newspaper or in the TV, they'll see it in the movies, and the journalists, editors and directors will drink on the books and on the university, and the writers and the teachers shall be Muslims, or untill then however else favor the cause of Islam.

And so the new Golden Age will be forged by man's very own hands, humanity will be reborn in the next temporal cycle under the banner of Islam. Rise, Muslim Atlantis, over the ashes and the sacrificial blood of the corrupt.

[SUBMAN1]

Once we are finished converting the elites, the masses will follow through eagerly. Pressed from the top and from the bottom, few will resist.

Do not stop at the 80's. Our project dates back 1400 years. But fair enough, if you want action plans, go back a few more decades to the 1920's and talk to René Guénon, the man who set out to Islamize Europe, and his sucessor, Fritjof Schuon, the followers of whom hunt the cultural elite of Europe, America and world abroad, searching for the most talented individuals to bring to their sect, and after convincing them that all religions but Islam have degenerated gravely, Islam becomes the only option left.

And then the people will read it in the newspaper or in the TV, they'll see it in the movies, and the journalists, editors and directors will drink on the books and on the university, and the writers and the teachers shall be Muslims, or untill then however else favor the cause of Islam.

And so the new Golden Age will be forged by man's very own hands, humanity will be reborn in the next temporal cycle under the banner of Islam. Rise, Muslim Atlantis, over the ashes and the sacrificial blood of the corrupt.

Bad plan man - ditch that religion. You are a slave to a fake tyrant god whom is nothing more than an angry baby killer if he were real. Problem is - this plan can't come to fruition - impossible. Too many athiests these days who would rather shoot you instead of join you. It will maybe be easy to take over an un-armed Europe, but America is an armed population that doesn't take kindly to being prodded like cows.

It's a sad day for you.

-S

[micky1up]

oh no no no no no you get it wrong my friend not europe but the world!

[SUBMAN1]

oh no no no no no you get it wrong my friend not europe but the world!
Thats the funniest crap I have read all day! Let me get some popcorn - I want to see you march on the Asians first! Try China and Japan. Should be entertaining.

-S

[Skybird]

If Europeans allow Islam to take them over, they are not worth my respect nor my willingness and effort to stand up for them.

I am not the glorious seven. If I can't make the farmers to fight for themselves and their freedom, and if they even are dumb enolugh to ask me why they should do that, then I am refusing to fight for them in their place, since they do not deserve that noblesse of mine.

If Europeans do not know who they are, where they come from, and how it came that way, they will not mind - since they are not aware - to switch to a foreign, backward oriented identity, and murder the identity of their ancestors instead. They will not be aware of what they are loosing. It's impossible to lavish too much contempt upon such a stupid, ignorrant people knowing no self-respect, and self-insight. He who does not know who he is and where he came from, does not know what treasures he headlessly gives away, and does not know what he will miss once it has been taken from him. What injustice is it then if he rightfully falls into the mud and gets ashamed.

Such a Europe Islam truly deserves: a land of fools and idiots who voluntarily accept to switch off their brains. No brain and no scruples here, meets no brain and no scruples there - sounds like perfect harmony to me.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Screw them. Let em come try that on my street. :stare:

[August]

If Europeans allow Islam to take them over, they are not worth my respect nor my willingness and effort to stand up for them.

I am not the glorious seven. If I can't make the farmers to fight for themselves and their freedom, and if they even are dumb enolugh to ask me why they should do that, then I am refusing to fight for them in their place, since they do not deserve that noblesse of mine.

If Europeans do not know who they are, where they come from, and how it came that way, they will not mind - since they are not aware - to switch to a foreign, backward oriented identity, and murder the identity of their ancestors instead. They will not be aware of what they are loosing. It's impossible to lavish too much contempt upon such a stupid, ignorrant people knowing no self-respect, and self-insight. He who does not know who he is and where he came from, does not know what treasures he headlessly gives away, and does not know what he will miss once it has been taken from him. What injustice is it then if he rightfully falls into the mud and gets ashamed.

Such a Europe Islam truly deserves: a land of fools and idiots who voluntarily accept to switch off their brains. No brain and no scruples here, meets no brain and no scruples there - sounds like perfect harmony to me.

You are a European, yet you talk like Europeans are foreigners to you. Maybe this eagerness to distance yourself from your own people is what lies at the heart of European troubles.

I'm just sayin...

[antikristuseke]

Some parts of thaose texts are scarily similar to the "reasoning" behing the holocaust.
Please explain.

This might be a difficult one to explain. What i ment was that especialy the second text reminds me of how jews were described in nazi germany. As in setling in, forming communities and then trying to gain absolute power. Or something like that, really hard to put what i mean into text right now.

[Letum]

Some parts of thaose texts are scarily similar to the "reasoning" behing the holocaust. Please explain.
This might be a difficult one to explain. What i ment was that especialy the second text reminds me of how jews were described in nazi germany. As in setling in, forming communities and then trying to gain absolute power. Or something like that, really hard to put what i mean into text right now.
Well, this can easily be tested by switching words round......words changed are in italics
*edit* I missed a few italics by accident, but they are fairly obvious anyway.


"Posted on 08/17/1938 1:46:56 PM PDT by

I came across an article the other day which, in the light of the Polish massacres and other acts of Jewish terrorism in Western Europe, gave me cause to reflect afresh on the growing population of Jews here in Germany.
I offer no opinion on what follows; I record it merely for those who have an interest in such matters, and because there seems to be a dearth of this sort of analytical writing down this end of the world.
The article, headed "The Semitism of Europe", was written by Dr *insert appropriate name*, who is director of the Institute for the Study of Judaism and Christianity, the research arm of the Christian aid agency Barnabas Fund based in Berlin.
According to Dr insert appropriate name*, Europe is undergoing a rapid process of change as Jews make their presence felt in politics, economics, law, education and the media.
Europe, he says, is being transformed into a society in which Judaism takes its place not just as an equal with the many other faith communities but often as the dominant player.
It is, says Dr *insert*, not happening by chance but is the result of a careful and deliberate strategy by certain Jewish leaders which was planned in 1914 when the Jewish Council of Europe published a book called Jewish Communities in Non-Jewish States, which clearly explained the Jews agenda in Europe.
The instructions given in the book told Jews to get together and organise themselves into viable Jewish communities based on Jewish principles. This was the duty of every individual Jew living in a non-Jewish country.
They should set up synagogues, community centres and Jewish schools. At all costs they must avoid being assimilated by the majority, and to resist assimilation must group themselves geographically, forming areas of high Jewish concentration within the population as a whole.
Yet they must also interact with non-Jews so as to share the message of Judaism with them.
The ultimate goal was for Jews to become the majority and the entire nation be governed according to Judaism.
Dr ** admits that not all Jews support that action plan and many are happy to become integrated within the majority society."


Now that appears to me to have the same general feeling as the tripe that was pushed around by Hitler, Ford, et all. in the 1930s.

It's a variation on a theme.
The theme is fear of a outside, alien influence that is clandestinely infecting the home society and destroying it from within.

Back in the 1930s Germany people thought the alien influence that threatened society was Judaism.
Now in the 21st century West people think the alien influence that threatens. society is Islam.

History repeats it's self and you can find this pattern again and again on every scale. It is nothing new.

Again and again history shows us where this pattern can lead if it continues.

[The Avon Lady]

Of course don't let the fact that one theme is pulp fiction while the other is now day-to-day reality get in your way.

Such fictitious logic (again from the moral equivalency crowd) only justifies me saying again: Good luck, Europe!

[Letum]

Of course don't let the fact that one theme is pupl fiction while the other is now day-to-day reality get in your way.

You have fact, fiction and reality all mixed up in one sentance.

No doubt you think the same of me.
If only it was the same as me! ;)

[antikristuseke]

Now that appears to me to have the same general feeling as the tripe that was pushed around by Hitler, Ford, et all. in the 1930s.

It's a variation on a theme.
The theme is fear of a outside, alien influence that is clandestinely infecting the home society and destroying it from within.

Back in the 1930s Germany people thought the alien influence that threatened society was Judaism.
Now in the 21st century West people think the alien influence that threatens. society is Islam.

History repeats it's self and you can find this pattern again and again on every scale. It is nothing new.

Again and again history shows us where this pattern can lead if it continues.

Thats exactly what i was going at, just couldnt find the words at the time, thanks.

[The Avon Lady]

Well, you try typing with so much challah dough stuck to your fingers that you have webbed hands. :doh:

[The Avon Lady]

Bye Bye, Belgium (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/bye-bye-belgium.html)

Heads up, America (1) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/islam-911.html)

Heads up, America (2) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/the-islamists-d.html)

San Francisco is lost already (http://www.zombietime.com/9-11_truth_march_power_to_peaceful/) :|\\

[Letum]

Bye Bye, Belgium (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/bye-bye-belgium.html)

Heads up, America (1) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/islam-911.html)

Heads up, America (2) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/the-islamists-d.html)

San Francisco is lost already (http://www.zombietime.com/9-11_truth_march_power_to_peaceful/) :|\\

Always with the links Avon!

Telling us your point of view would be much more interesting!

Unless of course you point of view just consists links to other peoples points of view. :shifty:

[The Avon Lady]

Bye Bye, Belgium (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/bye-bye-belgium.html)

Heads up, America (1) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/islam-911.html)

Heads up, America (2) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/the-islamists-d.html)

San Francisco is lost already (http://www.zombietime.com/9-11_truth_march_power_to_peaceful/) :|\\

Always with the links Avon!

Telling us your point of view would be much more interesting!

Unless of course you point of view just consists links to other peoples points of view. :shifty:
Belgium: free speech is brutally stifled due to fear.

US 1: Muslims' intent by those who practice according to Islamic law, is printed out in black and white.

US 2: More of the same. The picture essay's photos of many of the placards displayed by Muslims fits perfectly in place with what they preach, as is often reported by the mass media, even if printed in section B, page 22.

San Francisco: in all honesty, I don't know if words exist in the English language to describe the depicted empty headed anarchy. Oh! There they are! :p

Finally, I like links, though I confess they are an imperfect addiction. :yep:

[Letum]

Bye Bye, Belgium (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/bye-bye-belgium.html)

Heads up, America (1) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/islam-911.html)

Heads up, America (2) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/the-islamists-d.html)

San Francisco is lost already (http://www.zombietime.com/9-11_truth_march_power_to_peaceful/) :|\\
Always with the links Avon!

Telling us your point of view would be much more interesting!

Unless of course you point of view just consists links to other peoples points of view. :shifty: Belgium: free speech is brutally stifled due to fear.

US 1: Muslims' intent by those who practice according to Islamic law, is printed out in black and white.

US 2: More of the same. The picture essay's photos of many of the placards displayed by Muslims fits perfectly in place with what they preach, as is often reported by the mass media, even if printed in section B, page 22.

San Francisco: in all honesty, I don't know if words exist in the English language to describe the depicted empty headed anarchy. Oh! There they are! :p

Finally, I like links, though I confess they are an imperfect addiction. :yep:

Ok.....so you looked at the articles and drew those conclusions about them.

Althow it doesn't look like a lot happend between looking and concludeing. You seam to have taken them very much at face value. :dead:

The best way to find the truth is usualy to draw questions from your sources, not conclusions.

[The Avon Lady]

Bye Bye, Belgium (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/bye-bye-belgium.html)

Heads up, America (1) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/islam-911.html)

Heads up, America (2) (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/09/the-islamists-d.html)

San Francisco is lost already (http://www.zombietime.com/9-11_truth_march_power_to_peaceful/) :|\\
Always with the links Avon!

Telling us your point of view would be much more interesting!

Unless of course you point of view just consists links to other peoples points of view. :shifty: Belgium: free speech is brutally stifled due to fear.

US 1: Muslims' intent by those who practice according to Islamic law, is printed out in black and white.

US 2: More of the same. The picture essay's photos of many of the placards displayed by Muslims fits perfectly in place with what they preach, as is often reported by the mass media, even if printed in section B, page 22.

San Francisco: in all honesty, I don't know if words exist in the English language to describe the depicted empty headed anarchy. Oh! There they are! :p

Finally, I like links, though I confess they are an imperfect addiction. :yep:

Ok.....so you looked at the articles and drew those conclusions about them.

Althow it doesn't look like a lot happend between looking and concludeing. You seam to have taken them very much at face value. :dead:

The best way to find the truth is usualy to draw questions from your sources, not conclusions.
Thanks for your great incite.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

or hastened by means of political dominance or even by violence
do i noice belgium ? :hmm:

edit:
Belgium: free speech is brutally stifled due to fear.
SOOOOOOOOO true

[Tchocky]

Thanks for your great incite.

Nice pun.

[Skybird]

You are a European, yet you talk like Europeans are foreigners to you. Maybe this eagerness to distance yourself from your own people is what lies at the heart of European troubles.

I'm just sayin...

My own people, as you say it, is a bitter dissapointment for me. So, yes, I distance myself from them more and more. And they see me as a trouble maker and cause of disturbance in return. Much of my thoughts, though no all, is basing on the fundament of european culture which is not imaginable without the fundament of Greek philosophers. And I am aware of the path that had led europe to both the crisis and climaxes it has seen, and link my idnetity to these develoepments. That is something many do not do, and actively reject, and are ignorrant of. I call it identity, and their lack of having identity, as is best illustrated in the body of the EU.

I live as a stranger in a strange land, it often seems to me. and before you ask if if I have actively done soemthing to chnage things: yes, I did, and not rarely, and unpayed, and often. And always with serious doubts afterwards that the minor chnages, if any, that I achieved were worth it.

Not to see me as distant from the majority of people here - is close to an insult for me. And if my stand and distance appears as arrogant to some - I do not care a bit.

edit: just one illustration:
http://www.welt.de/berlin/article1177330/Mehrere_Verletzte_bei_Media-Markt-Eroeffnung.html

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

You are a European, yet you talk like Europeans are foreigners to you. Maybe this eagerness to distance yourself from your own people is what lies at the heart of European troubles.

I'm just sayin...
My own people, as you say it, is a bitter dissapointment for me. So, yes, I distance myself from them more and more. And they see me as a trouble maker and cause of disturbance in return. Much of my thoughts, though no all, is basing on the fundament of european culture which is not imaginable without the fundament of Greek philosophers. And I am aware of the path that had led europe to both the crisis and climaxes it has seen, and link my idnetity to these develoepments. That is something many do not do, and actively reject, and are ignorrant of.

I live as a stranger in a strange land, it often seems to me.

i live isolated of a moronic country flushed by albanians, muslims, turkish's, frenchie's, americans, asian (wich i dont mind and actualy want more :p)
in short words. Belgium isnt belgian anymore :shifty:, so i stay indoors and only go out to go shoping or visit family.
i dont work couse i hate meeting ppl in RL.
meeting ppl on the net is ok. but in RL... NO WAY!

[joea]

i live isolated of a moronic country flushed by albanians, muslims, turkish's, frenchie's, americans, asian (wich i dont mind and actualy want more :p)
in short words. Belgium isnt belgian anymore :shifty:, so i stay indoors and only go out to go shoping or visit family.
i dont work couse i hate meeting ppl in RL.
meeting ppl on the net is ok. but in RL... NO WAY!

Explains a lot about you. :roll:

[The Avon Lady]

i live isolated of a moronic country flushed by albanians, muslims, turkish's, frenchie's, americans, asian (wich i dont mind and actualy want more :p)
in short words. Belgium isnt belgian anymore :shifty:, so i stay indoors and only go out to go shoping or visit family.
i dont work couse i hate meeting ppl in RL.
meeting ppl on the net is ok. but in RL... NO WAY!
Explains a lot about you. :roll:
How would you know? You've never met him!

:p

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i live isolated of a moronic country flushed by albanians, muslims, turkish's, frenchie's, americans, asian (wich i dont mind and actualy want more :p)
in short words. Belgium isnt belgian anymore :shifty:, so i stay indoors and only go out to go shoping or visit family.
i dont work couse i hate meeting ppl in RL.
meeting ppl on the net is ok. but in RL... NO WAY! Explains a lot about you. :roll: How would you know? You've never met him!

:p
if he's ever been in belgium i MIGHT have seen him :hmm:
but take that chance on 1 of 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[joea]

How would you know? You've never met him!

:p

True therefore:

It explains a lot about his posts and the character that comes through in them. :p

Never been to Belgium btw, though I do enjoy their fine beer. In moderation though that stuff can be strong, especially the monk brewed stuff like Chimay.

[SUBMAN1]

Well, it was easy to understand the Jewish plight at the time - they had no where to go, no state of their own, so obviously they wanted to carve out their little nitch in the world - and at the end of WWII, America simply fixed that little problem.

Islam is a whole different bag - They don't want a state, they don't want a small place to exercise their own laws........they want the whole damn world!

Maybe it is time to repeat history to put people back into their proper places.

-S

[antikristuseke]

And how do you suppose to do that?

[SUBMAN1]

And how do you suppose to do that?

I have no clue, but I'm sure people much smarter than me can figure it out.

-S

[VipertheSniper]

I would say give those Islamofacists some of their own medicine, but I think we'd have a hard time getting some suicide bombers.

[SUBMAN1]

I would say give those Islamofacists some of their own medicine, but I think we'd have a hard time getting some suicide bombers.
Last time I checked, we don't need suicide bombers - we got robots to do that for us. And the only thing the Islamic terrorists got on the robot is less soul.

-S

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Then again, we could solve our prison overcrowding problems :hmm:

[antikristuseke]

I would say give those Islamofacists some of their own medicine, but I think we'd have a hard time getting some suicide bombers.

What the hell would blowing up their civilian population acieve? Wouldnt that jsut give them more justification to continue?

A saying comes to mind describing that situation (I'm not calling you an idiot, just to avoid any confusion or bad blood) "Dont argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and bead you with experience."

[SUBMAN1]

I would say give those Islamofacists some of their own medicine, but I think we'd have a hard time getting some suicide bombers.
What the hell would blowing up their civilian population acieve? Wouldnt that jsut give them more justification to continue?

Nope - not if you break their will. Everyone breaks at some point. We have been simply slapping their wrists so far and that is giving them justification since it only hurts, but doesn't sting!

-S

[Tchocky]

I would say give those Islamofacists some of their own medicine, but I think we'd have a hard time getting some suicide bombers.
Yeah, murder of innocents. That'll show them.

:dead:

[antikristuseke]

I would say give those Islamofacists some of their own medicine, but I think we'd have a hard time getting some suicide bombers.
What the hell would blowing up their civilian population acieve? Wouldnt that jsut give them more justification to continue?

Nope - not if you break their will. Everyone breaks at some point. We have been simply slapping their wrists so far and that is giving them justification since it only hurts, but doesn't sting!

-S

Hmm again i see paralels with Germany after WW1 when the penalties imposed were suposed to break their will, we all know how that ended.

[VipertheSniper]

It wasn't really meant serious, I know full well, that this isn't a solution by any means. I'm glad I didn't post what I first had in mind given the reactions.

I've got no answer on antikristuseke's question either

[SUBMAN1]

It wasn't really meant serious, I know full well, that this isn't a solution by any means. I'm glad I didn't post what I first had in mind given the reactions.

I've got no answer on antikristuseke's question either

Agreed! I wondered what kind of reaction this would get, but I should have predicted it.

-S

[STEED]

Islam Vs The Second Roman Empire :hmm:

Coming soon or later.

And thats a rap. :stare:

PS: Both are not welcomed.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i have looked at the "bye bye belgium" linky. thise ppl who get arrested are from the extreem right (or more facist-ish) party "Vlaams Belang". they want the muslims, africans, turkish, frensh, etc out of belgium so belgium is belgian again.
and every year more and more ppl vote for them (so do i :cool:)

9/10th of the crime is commited by "not belgians"
hell. there were even murders for mp3 players :doh: (2 muslims on 1 belgian)

id say: reopen auschwitz :smug:

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/photo/2-Auschwitz.jpg

[Skybird]

It is silly to rule out from the beginning any resistance that harms innocent and civilians. I never would do that - eventually i only rule out to intentionally harm innocent and civilians (this is what separates me from islamic terrorists).

but once i have identified a valid target (=enemy) and for whatever my reasons are consider it a must to defeat this enemy, I would not accept anything or anyryone to come between him and me, and if it would be god himself trying to stop me - i would kill him, and then my enemy. That is fighting spirit, and determination. Everything less is a laugh in an empty room, and nobody hears you ecxept yourself.

Why do Palestinian and Islamic terrorists, and other thugs and pigs intentionally hide behind civilian people, offices, buildings? why do they intentionally seek the crowd to launch their mortars, why do they store their ammo and weapons in schools and hospitals? Because they know that this protects them from most Western defense against their murderous deeds.

according to the logic of those saying we shall not defend ourselves if it means to harm those they are hiding behind, we would be left totally defenseless, and have no right to resist at all. They even do not think about the fact that they cannot offer an alternative themselves, a realistic, practical alternative that is. so in the end, these people already have given up from the very beginning. they are no partners in negotiation that way - they are only prey. Just tell them you are willing to use force, and they will immediately surrender, for using force by themselves they have ruled out.

Can't get more silly than this.

One could even push it further and refer to a Samurai's spirit. He would not even hesitate to go for his enemy if the risk that he will be killed himself is significant.

Either you fight, or you don't. Everything else is dead brain and baby poo-poo.

If that is to brutal a truth for an enemy, he better don't start to engage a man thinking like this. Nobody forces him to look for trouble.

I must admit that over the past years I got extremely tired and disgusted by this kind of people who are willing to destroy all of Wetsern culture and civilization if only that means not having to fight a "conflict". They shoulder a major share of the responsibility that islam is allowed to commence it's biggest offense since the 10th century. Back then Islam was stopped not before having reached the heart of France, and Austria, and almost all Southern europe being conquered. This time they will take it all - thanks to the endlessly wellmeaning, unlimited tolerant aesthetes in our middle who cannot even spell the word "conflict" without starting to stutter.

A civilization that cannot defend itself or does not wish to defend itself, is a civilization doomed to die.

I civilised attitude is useless in the face of an opponent having no civilised attitude, only the determination to be as brutal as necessary to push his cause. So you eithe rbrake him - or you get broken.

But that is too harsh a truth for some to consider.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

those bastards already took over Kosovo and are now trying to tear it apart from serbia.. they started wars in my country and tore my country apart. they can rot in hell (my opinion from the effects the war had on me and my family) :shifty::shifty::down::down::down:

god help europe.. immigration is tearing every country apart, civilization is not ready for multiculturasim

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Bring 'em on. :lol:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1623/islamyousayut9.jpg

[fatty]

Bring 'em on. :lol:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1623/islamyousayut9.jpg


Nice nazi poster. The evidence in this thread is really building :nope:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

lol, can't you take a joke? :p

I'm no Nazi, tsch.

[Tchocky]

http://www.charchaa.com/files/locker62/meinkempy.jpg

[Happy Times]

id say: reopen auschwitz :smug:

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/photo/2-Auschwitz.jpg


You are a retarded little fack.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

id say: reopen auschwitz :smug:

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/photo/2-Auschwitz.jpg

You are a retarded little fack.

:hmm: somtimes. but most of the time i am right :smug:

[antikristuseke]

It is silly to rule out from the beginning any resistance that harms innocent and civilians. I never would do that - eventually i only rule out to intentionally harm innocent and civilians (this is what separates me from islamic terrorists).

but once i have identified a valid target (=enemy) and for whatever my reasons are consider it a must to defeat this enemy, I would not accept anything or anyryone to come between him and me, and if it would be god himself trying to stop me - i would kill him, and then my enemy. That is fighting spirit, and determination. Everything less is a laugh in an empty room, and nobody hears you ecxept yourself.

Why do Palestinian and Islamic terrorists, and other thugs and pigs intentionally hide behind civilian people, offices, buildings? why do they intentionally seek the crowd to launch their mortars, why do they store their ammo and weapons in schools and hospitals? Because they know that this protects them from most Western defense against their murderous deeds.

according to the logic of those saying we shall not defend ourselves if it means to harm those they are hiding behind, we would be left totally defenseless, and have no right to resist at all. They even do not think about the fact that they cannot offer an alternative themselves, a realistic, practical alternative that is. so in the end, these people already have given up from the very beginning. they are no partners in negotiation that way - they are only prey. Just tell them you are willing to use force, and they will immediately surrender, for using force by themselves they have ruled out.

Can't get more silly than this.

One could even push it further and refer to a Samurai's spirit. He would not even hesitate to go for his enemy if the risk that he will be killed himself is significant.

Either you fight, or you don't. Everything else is dead brain and baby poo-poo.

If that is to brutal a truth for an enemy, he better don't start to engage a man thinking like this. Nobody forces him to look for trouble.

I must admit that over the past years I got extremely tired and disgusted by this kind of people who are willing to destroy all of Wetsern culture and civilization if only that means not having to fight a "conflict". They shoulder a major share of the responsibility that islam is allowed to commence it's biggest offense since the 10th century. Back then Islam was stopped not before having reached the heart of France, and Austria, and almost all Southern europe being conquered. This time they will take it all - thanks to the endlessly wellmeaning, unlimited tolerant aesthetes in our middle who cannot even spell the word "conflict" without starting to stutter.

A civilization that cannot defend itself or does not wish to defend itself, is a civilization doomed to die.

I civilised attitude is useless in the face of an opponent having no civilised attitude, only the determination to be as brutal as necessary to push his cause. So you eithe rbrake him - or you get broken.

But that is too harsh a truth for some to consider.

I pretty much agree with what you say.


god help europe.. immigration is tearing every country apart, civilization is not ready for multiculturasim

Imigration is not the problem, multiple cultures are not the problem. The problem is that ****wits want to change our culture to accomodate theirs but what the imigrants should be doing is changing their culture so it fits into ours.


[B]Bring 'em on. :lol:


Nice nazi poster. The evidence in this thread is really building :nope:

I wouldnt call any image to do with the german side from the second world war a nazi image. This (http://www.zone.ee/antikristuseke/Pics/DSCN0767_(1).JPG?2) is one of my tshirts, do you think im a nazi for wearing it?

:hmm: somtimes. but most of the time i am right :smug:
While genocide is indeed a viable solution to any problem, it is not a solution to be used, ever. Im appaled that something like thsi was even brought up.

[joea]

id say: reopen auschwitz :smug:

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/maps/photo/2-Auschwitz.jpg

You are a retarded little fack.
:hmm: somtimes. but most of the time i am right :smug:

I sincerely hope you get banned for that you little nazi lover.