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The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 08:28 AM
I didn't want this day to pass without seeing someone here at SubSim recalling the events that took place only 6 years ago.

I didn't want to post any of what seem to be hundreds of pics and videos of that day. I cannot bear looking at them.

But I did find this:

In 9/11 remembrance, a turning to good deeds (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070910/ts_csm/adogood;_ylt=AnWwawJEnI2JkmWBxLNHd0Ss0NUE).

That seems right on the spot.

UPDATE: The article does not mention Partners In Kindness (http://www.partnersinkindness.org/aboutus.php), which I've known about for years already. In memory of Shoshana Greenbaum (http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Memorial/2001/Shoshana+Yehudit+Greenbaum.htm).

Tchocky
09-11-07, 08:52 AM
This day last year myself and a friend sat by the 9/11 Memorial Labyrinth for a while, some sort of meditation I guess.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/BCmemoriallabyrinth.jpg

elite_hunter_sh3
09-11-07, 09:28 AM
wut happened was a conspiracy, by many governments and high ranking people... this was just for money, oil and greed..:shifty::shifty::shifty:

The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 09:36 AM
wut happened was a conspiracy, by many governments and high ranking people... this was just for money, oil and greed..:shifty::shifty::shifty:
For the idiots out there (http://www.maniacworld.com/9-11-conspiracy-theories-debunked.html).

:nope:

Foxtrot
09-11-07, 09:46 AM
while remembering 9/11 victims, let's not forget the victims of 9.11.1973 when US installed Augusto Pinochet in Chile

How can we forget William Rodriguez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rodriguez) and his lecture (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4380137365762802294) ?

And of course:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x7xyd_IRgGs

elite_hunter_sh3
09-11-07, 09:51 AM
not that controlled demolition crap, think about it if it wasnt for 9/11 there wudnt have been a iraq war and bush wudnt be in power, those defence companies in which rumsfeld had alot of shares in made a ****load of money... it was oly for profit, money and oil.. the whole thing..:shifty:

and besides who cares it happened.. its in the past.. get over it :roll:

and if they did want to find bin laden they wud ave done so years ago.. they aint even trying anymore

The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 10:01 AM
while remembering 9/11 victims, let's not forget the victims of 9.11.1973 when US installed Augusto Pinochet in Chile
Amazing what a wee bit of historical perspective (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=DD0B5148-08BC-4F8F-ABAD-5A6ED2FB9B8E) can do.

Oh, and what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

How can we forget William Rodriguez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rodriguez) and his lecture (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4380137365762802294) ?
Yep, take it from a single Tidy Bowl Man.

And of course:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x7xyd_IRgGs
Appropriately named debunking site Screw-Loose Change (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/).

The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 10:06 AM
not that controlled demolition crap, think about it if it wasnt for 9/11 there wudnt have been a iraq war and bush wudnt be in power, those defence companies in which rumsfeld had alot of shares in made a ****load of money... it was oly for profit, money and oil.. the whole thing..:shifty:
Try playing devil's advocate to your own post and you'll see how childish and off the wall it is.
and besides who cares it happened.. its in the past.. get over it :roll:
If you don't care, then bugger off.
and if they did want to find bin laden they wud ave done so years ago..
So in other words, according to you, the US is beyond military and intelligence failures and blunders. Think again.
they aint even trying anymore
A little birdy told you? :hmm:

The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 10:08 AM
To get a word in edgewise, between the crackpots. A good summary with links:

Six Years Later (http://lawhawk.blogspot.com/2007/09/six-years-later.html).

ReallyDedPoet
09-11-07, 10:21 AM
and besides who cares it happened.. its in the past.. get over it :roll:


Tell that to the families of those who died\or affected that day. Show a bit of class here.

I rarely venture to the GT thread, this type of posting reinforces
why that is the case :yep:


RDP

Penelope_Grey
09-11-07, 11:05 AM
Most importantly I would like to express my sympathies to the families and the friends of them who lost loved ones in this horrendous tradgedy.

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Do you know Avon Lady, on the one hand I admire you for starting this thread to give people a chance to post their comments and for the other... well, you are regularly a condescending individual. I cannot get over this: Your video titles "for the idiots out there" Broadly sweeping statements of "for the crackpots"

And you are a fine one to criticise anybody for being childish, have you ever proof read anything you post? For somebody accusing others of being childish, you don't half do a fair amount of sweeping name calling yourself, not just contained to this thread but there are other examples and other individuals who have been rubbed up the wrong way by you.... and yes, I am rubbed up the wrong way since you told me you'd like to cut off peoples hands who take ridiculous things seriously... so why not practice what you preached to me... Why are you taking ridiculous things seriously?

I understand full well you don't take to loonatics lightly and that is fine... but you have turned a good thread idea into a circus with your attitude, why not do the sensible thing from the get-go and speak to Neal Stevens, to get the idiocy in your thread removed or warnings at least....? You want to know whats on my mind... I think you enjoy the chance to get involved in a pushing contest.

Oberon
09-11-07, 11:07 AM
Yeah, enough of the conspiracy theories already, whatever the cause it doesn't change the outcome, nearly 3000 people died that day.

The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 11:08 AM
Most importantly I would like to express my sympathies to the families and the friends of them who lost loved ones in this horrendous tradgedy.

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Do you know Avon Lady, on the one hand I admire you for starting this thread to give people a chance to post their comments and for the other... well, you are regularly a condescending individual. I cannot get over this: Your video titles "for the idiots out there" Broadly sweeping statements of "for the crackpots"

And you are a fine one to criticise anybody for being childish, have you ever proof read anything you post? For somebody accusing others of being childish, you don't half do a fair amount of sweeping name calling yourself, not just contained to this thread but there are other examples and other individuals who have been rubbed up the wrong way by you.... and yes, I am rubbed up the wrong way since you told me you'd like to cut off peoples hands who take ridiculous things seriously... so why not practice what you preached to me... Why are you taking ridiculous things seriously?

I understand full well you don't take to loonatics lightly and that is fine... but you have turned a good thread idea into a circus with your attitude, why not do the sensible thing from the get-go and speak to Neal Stevens, to get the idiocy in your thread removed or warnings at least....? You want to know whats on my mind... I think you enjoy the chance to get involved in a pushing contest.
Actually, I was hoping the thread would remain on topic.

There's a difference between taking ridiculous things claimed as truth seriously, versus misunderstanding when someone is joking in the first place.

Anyway, I'll keep calling a spade a spade, even when it rubs some people the wrong way.

Dowly
09-11-07, 11:38 AM
@elite_hunter_sh3

There are threads here in GT about conspiracies around 9/11. Your post belongs there.

@AvonLady

You are a veteran member of this forum and multiple others (I remember you from OFP forums). So, you should know that feeding the trolls only makes it worse.

So.. I think what I'm really trying to say here is... Why can't we be friends? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dYpnd_9TFs)

The Avon Lady
09-11-07, 12:04 PM
So.. I think what I'm really trying to say here is... Why can't we be friends? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dYpnd_9TFs)
Alternate version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljx8Wj5Jro).

mookiemookie
09-11-07, 01:58 PM
I cannot take credit for this, as it came from another forum, but I believe it hits the nail on the head in regards to all of the ridiculous 9/11 conspiracy theories:

"If Osama bin Laden and his Merry Muslim Misfits are responsible, then our government is incompetent. If the government saw it coming and allowed it to happen, or even better, made it happen themselves, then they're evil, but in control. Hell, they're in control to an extent that a non-believer can't even concieve.

It's the same choice we make when bad things happen to good people. You can say God did it for a reason, or you can admit that there's no one in charge and sometimes bad (things) will happen. Weak, fearful people will seek order at any cost, but people of character can accept a little chaos."

That being said, I think a simple "we're thinking of you" going out to the victims and families of the tragedy is the best thing to post.

joea
09-11-07, 02:00 PM
elite_hunter_sh3 that was uncalled for mate. I know how difficult it is to ignore trolls :oops: but still Penny had some good points.

Foxtrot
09-11-07, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=The Avon Lady]
Yep, take it from a single Tidy Bowl Man.
[quote]

He saved 40+ lives, just for you to know. Of course, how can you know since your head is buried deep in your ass.:hmm: Try to take it out, and place it on its proper place :roll:

Kapitan_Phillips
09-11-07, 03:24 PM
May seem a little silly but I hosted a memorial flyover New York online in FSX. Stunt planes with smoke and things.

lesrae
09-11-07, 03:29 PM
May seem a little silly but I hosted a memorial flyover New York online in FSX. Stunt planes with smoke and things.

It's not silly at all, everyone does their own thing.

Kapitan_Phillips
09-11-07, 03:34 PM
Did a high altitude flyby in a KLM Boeing 777, then low with all the bells and whistles like those weird speed spoilers

Chock
09-11-07, 03:38 PM
It's all very well remembering it, and I do too since I am now a godparent following the death of one of my friends on that day. But it's also worth remembering that the US policy towards foreign nations did much to bring it about in the first place.

Step on toes and throw your weight about, and this is what happens when people say they aint gonna take it no more. I hope people remember that too.

:D Chock

geetrue
09-11-07, 03:58 PM
It's all very well remembering it, and I do too since I am now a godparent following the death of one of my friends on that day. But it's also worth remembering that the US policy towards foreign nations did much to bring it about in the first place.

Step on toes and throw your weight about, and this is what happens when people say they aint gonna take it no more. I hope people remember that too.

:D Chock

This is a lie being retold ... this is no where near the truth.

US policy towards foreign nations did not cause the men that Bin Laden recruited to plan and execute the destruction of the twin towers in New York or the damage to the pentagon building or the plane that crashed in Penn or the other two planes that never made it to their intended targets.

This was a Muslim terroist operation designed to warn us to leave the countries of Iraq and Iran alone ... the true intentions of these terroist headed by Bin Laden is to get America to forego the defense of Israel.

They will strike again, they will use the same tactic's of murdering innocent peoples to set in motion the biggest weapon they have ... fear.

I personally was right here on GT on subsim.com waiting for Destroyer Command to be released during the same week. The members at that time were sure that America would find the men responcible for this act of war and remove them from the face of the earth.

I still think this will happen before President Bush leaves office ... one of the reasons America has been left alone for these last six years is due to the agressive stance of our President in the enemies back yard.

Why blow up anything over here and make us have unity to stay over there ...?

Skybird
09-11-07, 03:59 PM
Life - brief moment in time, like colourful firework in the sky, unique, ever-changing, never coming back. Light and shadow: the one is nothing without the other, would remain invisible. Darkness - then one sudden glimpse of bright light, and then its over. Beauty - so fragile the only power we have over it is to destroy it.

Grab it - and you loose it, search it - and you don't see it, don't mind - and it does not change anything. It simply is. So free yourself from everything, let go all your blinded thoughts and dark concepts. It is, like it always has been, and always will be. Since you never departed, you must not arrive. Since you lost nothing, you cannot gain anything. Don't think sad for the dead, for what has changed after they died is your perception only - not the reality of what really is.

Sometimes we become aware of this truth. Then time stands still, if only for seconds, and all things in universe freeze in precious balance, and them and us are one. It is in such moments that spans from one end of the universe to the other, when even the gods in Olymp don't dare a single breath, that we could become aware that nothing ever gets lost, and nothing ever was missing, and that we embrace it all, since always. Careless we waste this treasure again, when starting to attach meanings to all things that we see again. No injustice it is if then we suffer pain and sadness from this, self-made. The world is not in disorder. The world just is what it is. It is us not being in order. And things we see just reflect our confused state of mind.

Nobody must go anywhere. We are all - if only we knew - already there, and we never were anywhere else.

So why crying?

kiwi_2005
09-11-07, 04:14 PM
I was wondering when a thread would be put up, i was saying to my son yesterday hey its the 11th today you know what that means? Ahh payday for you? :roll: No, its 9/11 the day the US got attacked and dont forget it even if we live on the otherside of the world! Hey hes part Jewish what did ya expect! :lol: (joke) He seems to remeber more about the guy he nailed online in a FPShooter than the events of the world.

9/11 the day the sleeping giant woke up

Ducimus
09-11-07, 04:58 PM
Weee, logging in just to respond to this thread since i knew one would appear here.

I've always had mixed thoughts on Sept 11th.

- I prefer to call it septh 11th, instead of 911 - its putting a spin on the event.

- I have no emotion regarding the event at all. Not one iota. But then, i had alot of practice in the military on how to become desensitized, or pull the emotional plug. Its a defense mechaism. Not everyone has that ability.

- I do however remember where i was, and what i was doing when it happened. Sadley, my only thought was, "i was wondering when something like this was going to happen, i guess now i know". I knew i was watching history in the making on TV, and i think its because it was on TV (as opposed to in my face) that made it easier for me to distance myself from it, and i realized this as i watched it unfold.

- All the conspiracy theorists are full of themselves, and full of ****. "911 an inside job"?! what****ingever, gullible people are sad sacks of **** in their own right. It amazes me they get any "air time" at all.These people need to unass their computer chairs, get off the internet (which is a breeding ground for this crap) and go take part in the real world more.

- I dont have any relatives that died in that building, so my feelings are different, but the reality is, on septh 11th, 2740 Americans were murdered in cold blood by a creative group of fanatical towelheads. They didnt die for freedom, or democracy, or anything other lofty ideal. Point blank, average joes going to office like i do every day, and then they were murdered. There is no sense or reason to be made from it.

- Ive always been split on observing this day. On one hand it would be wrong to not remember the day when 2740 Americans were murdered in cold blood, en mass. On the other hand, the fact that we do, means said whackjobs suceeded in their goals. Every cry of mourning puts a feather in these guys cap. I dislike giving them that satisfaction.

- We still have some muslim whackjob murder's that need to be brought to justice. Every last one needs to be made an example of, without making them maryters.

joea
09-11-07, 06:04 PM
Did a high altitude flyby in a KLM Boeing 777, then low with all the bells and whistles like those weird speed spoilers

Nice tributes there Kaptain Phillips. :up:

@ Skybird, and Ducimus: really appreciated your input with very different posts.

samniTe
09-11-07, 06:34 PM
more 9/11's!

Subnuts
09-11-07, 06:37 PM
more 9/11's!

The hell? :doh:

HunterICX
09-11-07, 06:40 PM
more 9/11's!
The hell? :doh:
:nope:just ignore that figure,
if you read his post history you know what you are dealing with.

it seems he has no respect for human lives lost that day.

Camaero
09-12-07, 01:11 AM
I will never forget that day.

Enigma
09-12-07, 01:18 AM
i just think of my pal who isnt here to discuss it with us. I think of his folks too. Just a kid.....:nope:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-12-07, 05:21 AM
http://kris-wilson.deviantart.com/art/Osama-64676409

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-12-07, 05:25 AM
more 9/11's!
The hell? :doh:
:nope:just ignore that figure,
if you read his post history you know what you are dealing with.

it seems he has no respect for human lives lost that day.
for 1 reason he has right.
we humans breed like rabbits. and what do WE do with a overpopulation of rabits ?
we kill till there are few enuf to breed again. and so on and on and on and on.

every war we have gone trough. the human population kinda double'd.

sooooooo. should we treat ourselves like rabbits to then ? :hmm:
kill enuf to keep the earth from overflooding with humans ? :hmm:

i say yes
but then other ppl think im cruel.
wait till a few decade's from now when the human population is to big :yep:

Onkel Neal
09-12-07, 06:03 AM
sooooooo. should we treat ourselves like rabbits to then ? :hmm:
kill enuf to keep the earth from overflooding with humans ? :hmm:

i say yes


Be sure to start with yourself and set an example for the rest of us rabbits :cool:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-12-07, 06:07 AM
sooooooo. should we treat ourselves like rabbits to then ? :hmm:
kill enuf to keep the earth from overflooding with humans ? :hmm:

i say yes

Be sure to start with yourself and set an example for the rest of us rabbits :cool:

planning to :smug:

danlisa
09-12-07, 06:15 AM
Be sure to start with yourself and set an example for the rest of us rabbits :cool:

@ Neal

LMAO. Lost in translation much?:hmm::roll:
:rotfl:

The Avon Lady
09-12-07, 06:18 AM
Um, duck season.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-12-07, 07:39 AM
not that controlled demolition crap, think about it if it wasnt for 9/11 there wudnt have been a iraq war and bush wudnt be in power, those defence companies in which rumsfeld had alot of shares in made a ****load of money... it was oly for profit, money and oil.. the whole thing..:shifty:

and besides who cares it happened.. its in the past.. get over it :roll:

and if they did want to find bin laden they wud ave done so years ago.. they aint even trying anymore
I'm sorry if this crosses forum rules or whatever... but

You are an absolute ****wit.
he's right. so ur the dumbass.
they found sadam, even BEFORE bin laden.
now they claim he's in iran. another oil source ? :hmm:

edit: feels wierd, today i agreed more than any other time in my life

Happy Times
09-12-07, 09:20 AM
more 9/11's!

:nope:

Penelope_Grey
09-12-07, 09:49 AM
Something tells me Mohr will not have the opportunity to breed like a rabbit, his very existence is a good reason in favour of absitnence.:damn:

Jimbuna
09-12-07, 10:12 AM
Learn from your parents mistakes...practice birth control ;)

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-12-07, 01:27 PM
Something tells me Mohr will not have the opportunity to breed like a rabbit, his very existence is a good reason in favour of absitnence.:damn:

who says i want to ? :hmm:

19 years i am alone. now figure out if i want to or not ;)

Iceman
09-12-07, 03:04 PM
I didn't want this day to pass without seeing someone here at SubSim recalling the events that took place only 6 years ago.

I didn't want to post any of what seem to be hundreds of pics and videos of that day. I cannot bear looking at them.

But I did find this:

In 9/11 remembrance, a turning to good deeds (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070910/ts_csm/adogood;_ylt=AnWwawJEnI2JkmWBxLNHd0Ss0NUE).

That seems right on the spot.

UPDATE: The article does not mention Partners In Kindness (http://www.partnersinkindness.org/aboutus.php), which I've known about for years already. In memory of Shoshana Greenbaum (http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Memorial/2001/Shoshana+Yehudit+Greenbaum.htm).

Thanks for the link...right on spot. :up:

Penelope_Grey
09-12-07, 03:53 PM
@ Mohr

Woof/ Woof bark/ Grrrrrrr/ Woof woof woof

Alex
09-12-07, 04:01 PM
I agree with you, Pen'. :88)

:rotfl:

Dowly
09-12-07, 04:05 PM
Hear hear. :up:

Penelope_Grey
09-12-07, 04:06 PM
Yeah Ive took leave of my senses... hadda happen sooner or later.

Onkel Neal
09-12-07, 05:08 PM
sooooooo. should we treat ourselves like rabbits to then ? :hmm:
kill enuf to keep the earth from overflooding with humans ? :hmm:

i say yes

Be sure to start with yourself and set an example for the rest of us rabbits :cool:

planning to :smug:

Ok, I apologize for that, it was rude and I didn't mean it literally. What I'm trying to say is, sure the world may be overpopulated but let's not advocate war and genocide as a solution. Let's try being rabbits who stop at 1 or 2 kids, eh?

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a pile of potatos to peel.

HunterICX
09-12-07, 05:27 PM
:shifty:Neal potato peeling?

Pfaw....you got a broad sword that aint fair!:lol:

Tchocky
09-12-07, 05:33 PM
Neal, I can't match the avatar with the apology :D

geetrue
09-12-07, 09:18 PM
sooooooo. should we treat ourselves like rabbits to then ? :hmm:
kill enuf to keep the earth from overflooding with humans ? :hmm:

i say yes

Be sure to start with yourself and set an example for the rest of us rabbits :cool:

planning to :smug:

Ok, I apologize for that, it was rude and I didn't mean it literally. What I'm trying to say is, sure the world may be overpopulated but let's not advocate war and genocide as a solution. Let's try being rabbits who stop at 1 or 2 kids, eh?

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a pile of potatos to peel.

Frame this apology ... first time I've seen one of these ... takes a real man to
apologize.

I like rabbits myself ... :yep:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-12-07, 10:41 PM
sooooooo. should we treat ourselves like rabbits to then ? :hmm:
kill enuf to keep the earth from overflooding with humans ? :hmm:

i say yes

Be sure to start with yourself and set an example for the rest of us rabbits :cool:
planning to :smug:
Ok, I apologize for that, it was rude and I didn't mean it literally. What I'm trying to say is, sure the world may be overpopulated but let's not advocate war and genocide as a solution. Let's try being rabbits who stop at 1 or 2 kids, eh?

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a pile of potatos to peel.

appologie rejected.
1) i dont want kids
2) i will end my life on my 30th birthday (couse then belgium will be lost)
3) war HAS been a temporary solution
4) most ppl cant stop at 2 kids (not refering to the muslim family's with 8 kids or more :shifty:)

danlisa
09-13-07, 02:35 AM
Very Gracious Neal.:up:

Meh, what can you do? Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, some gargle.;)

kiwi_2005
09-13-07, 02:44 AM
2) i will end my life on my 30th birthday (couse then belgium will be lost)


When u do can i have your sig:arrgh!:

:oops:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-13-07, 03:08 AM
2) i will end my life on my 30th birthday (couse then belgium will be lost)

When u do can i have your sig:arrgh!:

:oops:
sure. if you want you can have it already. if your a member of the 4th division that is

edit: i make you one.
gimme ur sub number, kaleun's name and anything else you want to add

The WosMan
09-13-07, 08:39 PM
Since this is a 9/11 thread I figured this worth mentioning. I sincerely believe that when the US gets hit, this is where it is going to be.

There has been a lot of buzz to homeland security of people reporting to authorities throughout the USA that ''suspicious" looking muslim males have been seen photographing US school buildings.

Counterterrorism officials have issued a bulletin that suspected members of islamic extremist groups have been applying and getting jobs as school bus drivers. The bulletin, sent to local police officials, cited recent suspicious activity by foreigners who either drive school buses or are licensed to drive them, including some with ties to extremist groups.

For instance, last May two Saudi Arabian men boarded a school bus in Tampa. They shouted in Arabic for 30 minutes before being finally removed from officials. No word on what they were talking about or why they took the bus hostage.

Last August, three men described as being Middle Eastern went onto a bus sales company in New York. They tried to buy a bunch of buses. After they were asked to leave, they staked the company out from a parked car for several minutes.

And in June, a Canadian was arrested on terrorism charges. Guess what his day job was? Yes, school bus driver.

So the question is, why are they so interested in this?

sunvalleyslim
09-14-07, 01:01 AM
uber mom,
I know where your heart comes from. You know things that some people will never understand. Some people do not know Evil. You understand Evil. You have either seen Evil or felt Evil. If you have never felt Evil, seen Evil, you will have no clue what Evil really is. Once that you have experienced Evil, seen Evil, tasted Evil, been horrified by Evil, then you can make a statement. Evil no knows rules, plays by no rules, and will destroy you in a heart beat. Evil feeds off of weakness.
When Evil has entered your life, taken from your life, made you scream for revenge, then and only then do you understand Evil. Evil can only be overcome by force. Evil does not ask for forgiveness, THAT IS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS.
Evil has to be destroyed by what ever means necessary to cause it's demise

Smaragdadler
09-14-07, 08:20 AM
One can read it even backwards...

Ducimus
09-14-07, 04:39 PM
@The WosMan

If what your citing is true and credible, then i woudlnt be surpised. Honestly even without "signs" i wouldnt be surpised anyway. From all i was ever taught, terrorists:

-Are very patient meticulous planners, and will take their time about it. Often taking years to put their plan into action.

- prefer to strike soft targets, or targets that their odds of success are substantially high. (IE path of least resistance)

- typically want to make a statement and will search out areas where their "statment" will be most heard.


What better way then to simultaniously attack schools? Seriously, many people have their child as their central focus in life. As odd as this sounds, Kid's are almost a cult fetish object. (how many times have you heard someone express concern of kids, even if they werent their own?) If the terrorist really want to make themselves heard, a well ocastrated and simultanious attack on many schools at once would create an uproar that would be probably louder then 9/11 and Pearl harbor combined.

I have to wonder if this plan (if such a plan were to ever exist), would backfire on them, and what other ramifications might be, both social and political. I hope such a thing never happends, but, i don't doubt that they'd have plan such a thing at all, infact, Id be more surpised if they didn't.

The WosMan
09-14-07, 07:23 PM
One good resource for this is a guy named Brad Thor. He is a member of a think tank created by the US Department of Homeland security that is called the Analytic Red Cell Unit. They were organized to try to stay four or five steps ahead of the terrorists by envisioning what they might do to us next.

As part of this group he has compiled evidence and police reports from all over the US as they try to connect the dots of a future attack. Here is some of the things that they have investigated:

Two Saudi men boarded that school bus and wouldn't get off until they had to be removed by authorities. There was a strong feeling among people involved in that investigation that that was a dry run for an attack. There are reports of school buses being stolen, in once instance 17 school buses were missing in Texas. Thousands of school bus radios were reported missing in the Northwest, the Pacific Northwest.

In Iraq, US troops found a diskette that had downloaded all of the Department of Education security measures. This disk was on an Iraqi who was arrested in a terrorism raid and had known ties to active Islamic terrorism. Also found in an Al Qaeda affiliated safehouse in Iraq was school blueprints, floor plans for schools across the USA. San Diego, California, West Salem, Oregon, Boyertown, Pennsylvania, schools in Texas, Virginia, New Jersey, were among the schools that they had specs on.

Now, after reading all of this; does anyone here remember the Belsen terrorist attacks in Russia? Refresher......it was where a group of armed Chechen separatists and Al Qaeda took more than 1,200 schoolchildren and adults hostage and 334 people were killed including 186 children. Now in his recent videos Bin Laden has said what they did in Russia, they will visit 100 times worse in America.

I have family that works in the schools here, my mother is a teacher. This stuff honestly scares the living crap out of me and there aren't too many out there talking about it because they all want us to go to sleep and forget about all this.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-14-07, 07:50 PM
@ Mohr

Woof/ Woof bark/ Grrrrrrr/ Woof woof woof

do you bite to ? :hmm:
could get interesting. getting ripped appart by a woman :lol:


@ kiwi_2005
hope you like it ;)
changes can be done

Happy Times
09-14-07, 07:54 PM
@ Mohr

Woof/ Woof bark/ Grrrrrrr/ Woof woof woof

do you bite to ? :hmm:
could get interesting. getting ripped appart by a woman :lol:


When you live with a woman the danger is ever present and no, its not something you will want to happen..

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
09-14-07, 07:57 PM
@ Mohr

Woof/ Woof bark/ Grrrrrrr/ Woof woof woof
do you bite to ? :hmm:
could get interesting. getting ripped appart by a woman :lol:

When you live with a woman the danger is ever present and no, its not something you will want to happen..
trust me. i do ;)

Iceman
09-15-07, 12:12 AM
One good resource for this is a guy named Brad Thor. He is a member of a think tank created by the US Department of Homeland security that is called the Analytic Red Cell Unit. They were organized to try to stay four or five steps ahead of the terrorists by envisioning what they might do to us next.

As part of this group he has compiled evidence and police reports from all over the US as they try to connect the dots of a future attack. Here is some of the things that they have investigated:

Two Saudi men boarded that school bus and wouldn't get off until they had to be removed by authorities. There was a strong feeling among people involved in that investigation that that was a dry run for an attack. There are reports of school buses being stolen, in once instance 17 school buses were missing in Texas. Thousands of school bus radios were reported missing in the Northwest, the Pacific Northwest.

In Iraq, US troops found a diskette that had downloaded all of the Department of Education security measures. This disk was on an Iraqi who was arrested in a terrorism raid and had known ties to active Islamic terrorism. Also found in an Al Qaeda affiliated safehouse in Iraq was school blueprints, floor plans for schools across the USA. San Diego, California, West Salem, Oregon, Boyertown, Pennsylvania, schools in Texas, Virginia, New Jersey, were among the schools that they had specs on.

Now, after reading all of this; does anyone here remember the Belsen terrorist attacks in Russia? Refresher......it was where a group of armed Chechen separatists and Al Qaeda took more than 1,200 schoolchildren and adults hostage and 334 people were killed including 186 children. Now in his recent videos Bin Laden has said what they did in Russia, they will visit 100 times worse in America.

I have family that works in the schools here, my mother is a teacher. This stuff honestly scares the living crap out of me and there aren't too many out there talking about it because they all want us to go to sleep and forget about all this.

You are not being ignored..alot of these people on this board have no children, or are children but many are parents and I have had concern about this very thing ever since 9/11..it is an obvious vulnerability..our children..God help us if anything like that ever does happen....people think our response to 9/11 was extreme start killing our children and **** will start hitting the fan again.

JALU3
09-15-07, 08:18 AM
A way for terrorist to magnify their efforts is to make it seem like the incident which they caused can be easily repeated, and more so repeated in everyday situations. In the United States, flying safetly from one end of the nation to another was seen as the rule, rather then the exception. Hijackings were only things that occured on foreign flights originating in foreign airports. And even then, the vast majority would end peacefully for the passangers, even if with much discomfort.
Hitting schools, and other every town locations brings terror into every neighberhood.
They would wish to prove that you are unsafe, unless you give into their demands. Now what are their demands:

Convert to their version of Islam
Obey their teachings as directed by their version of Islam
Depart areas with an Muslim PopulationIf the above is not done, their only response is to continue killing the "infidels".

The WosMan
09-15-07, 09:35 AM
Amazing that a culture can think of the innocent children as infidels.

If you really think about it though, this would be the easiest act to commit. Airplane hijackings and things of that nature are pretty hard to do now because you have more security, air marshals, pilots with guns, and also passengers that will not tolerate a terrorist. Some people have claimed that they will go nuclear on us and use suitcase nukes but that type of technology requires constant maintenance by experts to insure that it works and the parts get replaced as they degrade. These things are most likely strategically difficult to do over a long period of time. Hitting schools would be easy, especially in the heartland, some rural area where the whole county goes to one school and police response is very slow or the police department consists of 2 cars for the town.

geetrue
09-15-07, 10:07 AM
Now in his recent videos Bin Laden has said what they did in Russia, they will visit 100 times worse in America.
:damn: :nope: :o :cry:

The Avon Lady
09-19-07, 01:58 AM
How to advertise in a Dubai newspaper on 9/11:

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/240/56099369wu6.jpg

Spit.

Jimbuna
09-19-07, 07:33 AM
It gets the message across....but I'd suggest 'in very poor taste' :nope:

Kapitan_Phillips
09-19-07, 05:53 PM
To hell with the people who did it. Think of the people who fought to save those caught in the tragedy. Those are the people who people should be focusing on