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The Avon Lady
09-05-07, 08:55 AM
Oh! There you are! (http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/09/report-air-forc.html)

sunvalleyslim
09-05-07, 09:06 AM
Kind of a false lead into the story. Since the bombs were still on the plane. However some heads will roll from ground crew to air crew over this mistake.....

SUBMAN1
09-05-07, 09:14 AM
Kind of a false lead into the story. Since the bombs were still on the plane. However some heads will roll from ground crew to air crew over this mistake.....

Seems the were decertified.

Bill Nichols
09-05-07, 10:07 AM
Unbelievable but true:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6980204.stm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090500762.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500762.html)

:eek:

geetrue
09-05-07, 12:30 PM
I wonder when and if they will ever find the other missing nuclear war heads that have already been accidently dropped. I remember one in Georgia off the coast or near an inlet ... a nuclear depth charge I do believe.

Accidents do happen ... glad this wasn't one of them.

Jimbuna
09-05-07, 01:15 PM
One helluva mistake whichever way you look at it :yep:

Bill Nichols
09-05-07, 01:33 PM
I wonder when and if they will ever find the other missing nuclear war heads that have already been accidently dropped. I remember one in Georgia off the coast or near an inlet ... a nuclear depth charge I do believe.

Accidents do happen ... glad this wasn't one of them.


Details here:

http://www.cdi.org/Issues/NukeAccidents/accidents.htm

Iceman
09-05-07, 04:00 PM
I wonder when and if they will ever find the other missing nuclear war heads that have already been accidently dropped. I remember one in Georgia off the coast or near an inlet ... a nuclear depth charge I do believe.

Accidents do happen ... glad this wasn't one of them.


Details here:

http://www.cdi.org/Issues/NukeAccidents/accidents.htm

Amazing...read thru some of the accounts to about the 60's...amazing no actual huge nuclear detonations...will finish tonite...thank you for the link Bill.:up:

Don't tell me there's no God after reading some of those accts. :)

TLAM Strike
09-05-07, 04:26 PM
...should have been removed from the plane. Instead, they were mounted on the bomber’s wings...
...CNN says the crew didn't know the weapons were on the bomber...

Ok I know the B-52 is big but for god's sake get up off your lazy @$$ and walk around the plane before taking off!! They do that on the little pointy nose planes. Its not like they were hidden in the bomb bay or anything they were hanging off the wings in plain view. :roll:

geetrue
09-05-07, 07:23 PM
...should have been removed from the plane. Instead, they were mounted on the bomber’s wings...
...CNN says the crew didn't know the weapons were on the bomber...

Ok I know the B-52 is big but for god's sake get up off your lazy @$$ and walk around the plane before taking off!! They do that on the little pointy nose planes. Its not like they were hidden in the bomb bay or anything they were hanging off the wings in plain view. :roll:

Perhaps it was the new B-52 stealth bomber and they just didn't see them ... :lol:

Deep6
09-05-07, 07:37 PM
Perhaps it was the new B-52 stealth bomber and they just didn't see them ... :lol:
Flight of the Old Dog :up:

Skybird
09-05-07, 07:54 PM
"So einen Superschlitten will ich für mich und meine Süße auch!" :D

bookworm_020
09-05-07, 08:45 PM
Did they issue the crew with cowboy hats and tell then Russia awaits??? I'm sure plenty of heads will roll.:88)

Will Greenpeace now picket the Airfoce base , due to nuclear weapons beening brought in?:hmm:

JALU3
09-06-07, 01:27 AM
This story even got the top placement on Drudge Report before Thompson announced . . . and I love how even though DoD Policy is neither to confirm or deny the presence of Nuclear Weapons, anywhere, even on SSBNs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile_submarine), there are several "unnamed officers" who confirm their presence. The ground crew who let this happen, the aircrew who flew this aircraft without checking their aircraft properly, and the leakers should all be flogged infront of a formation of all the servicemembers of the base which they are assigned at. But why is it that we just don't assume that all capable ships and aircraft already carry atleast one nuclear capable ordanance. I mean, isn't that the reason for the DoD policy . . . to increase the nuclear detterent potential of the capable weapon platforms?

Heibges
09-06-07, 12:23 PM
...should have been removed from the plane. Instead, they were mounted on the bomber’s wings...
...CNN says the crew didn't know the weapons were on the bomber...

Ok I know the B-52 is big but for god's sake get up off your lazy @$$ and walk around the plane before taking off!! They do that on the little pointy nose planes. Its not like they were hidden in the bomb bay or anything they were hanging off the wings in plain view. :roll:

Perhaps it was the new B-52 stealth bomber and they just didn't see them ... :lol:

I'm sure the missles were supposed to be on the plane, just not with real warheads. The Air Force can't be that silly.

Oberon
09-06-07, 02:48 PM
I'm sure the missles were supposed to be on the plane, just not with real warheads. The Air Force can't be that silly.

:hmm:

Anyway, aren't there still quite a few ICBMs at the bottom in sunken Boomers? K-219 for example, or even 19. I don't think any other country (with the possible exception of Chinas suspected second Xia) has lost a Boomer other than the old USSR.

Ishmael
09-06-07, 09:14 PM
I don't know how the Air Farce runs their NUCWEPS programs, but this would never happen in the Navy. I won't go into the loading and storage procedures here but, suffice to say, any "Special" weapons would immediately be apparent. What is mystifying to me is that a weapons loadout check should be part of a preflight checklist and would show the type of weapons loaded and number in the weapons control console. That and any cursory examination of the weapons themselves that should have presumably been done as part of a visual inspection pre-flight should have raised a red flag as well. War shot ordnance is distinctly different from exercise weapons and are clearly marked with weapons type on the outside of the missle.

On another note, I remember reading in WMR a while back about the loss of two of the warheads from the Kazakh portion of the Soviet arsenal that were lost of the Somali coast in the early '90s. Those two were recovered by smugglers and allegedly sold to North Korea.

Heibges
09-06-07, 10:53 PM
The same thing in the Army. Training ammo is always blue.

Ishmael
09-06-07, 11:22 PM
A possible reason here from former CIA agent Larry Johnson:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/05/staging-nukes-for-iran/

Interesting story if Barksdale is the staging point for Mideast Operations.

Fish
09-07-07, 07:13 AM
Staging Nukes for Iran?

By Larry Johnson on Sep 5, 2007 in Current Affairs

Why the hubbub over a B-52 taking off from a B-52 base in Minot, North Dakota and subsequently landing at a B-52 base in Barksdale, Louisiana? That’s like getting excited if you see a postal worker in uniform walking out of a post office. And how does someone watching a B-52 land identify the cruise missiles as nukes? It just does not make sense.

So I called a old friend and retired B-52 pilot and asked him. What he told me offers one compelling case of circumstantial evidence. My buddy, let’s call him Jack D. Ripper, reminded me that the only times you put weapons on a plane is when they are on alert or if you are tasked to move the weapons to a specific site.

Then he told me something I had not heard before.

Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping off point for Middle East operations. Gee, why would we want cruise missile nukes at Barksdale Air Force Base. Can’t imagine we would need to use them in Iraq. Why would we want to preposition nuclear weapons at a base conducting Middle East operations?

His final point was to observe that someone on the inside obviously leaked the info that the planes were carrying nukes. A B-52 landing at Barksdale is a non-event. A B-52 landing with nukes. That is something else.

Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/05/staging-nukes-for-iran

Kapitan
09-07-07, 07:14 AM
Not being funny here but the report says the missles were mounted on the wings of the plane so how in gods name do you miss a missile on your plane, your going to spot it on your walk around atleast, or some one in the tower on the ground or the other airport it landed at must have seen them you cant miss them!

So did the pilot not make his walk around if so why not ? another wierd and wonderful cokup

Tchocky
09-07-07, 07:15 AM
My buddy, let’s call him Jack D. Ripper

Oh that's classic

http://www.skewedvisions.org/projects/2006/assets/SVripper3.jpg

Oberon
09-07-07, 07:24 AM
Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.

Either that or the information was deliberately leaked so that it would reach Tehran alongside the information that Barksdale is used for Middle Eastern Ops. A subtle way of warning Iran perhaps...not that the current admin does subtle very well. :hmm:

Fish
09-07-07, 07:48 AM
double post

Fish
09-07-07, 07:52 AM
Staging Nukes for Iran?

By Larry Johnson on Sep 5, 2007 in Current Affairs

Why the hubbub over a B-52 taking off from a B-52 base in Minot, North Dakota and subsequently landing at a B-52 base in Barksdale, Louisiana? That’s like getting excited if you see a postal worker in uniform walking out of a post office. And how does someone watching a B-52 land identify the cruise missiles as nukes? It just does not make sense.

So I called a old friend and retired B-52 pilot and asked him. What he told me offers one compelling case of circumstantial evidence. My buddy, let’s call him Jack D. Ripper, reminded me that the only times you put weapons on a plane is when they are on alert or if you are tasked to move the weapons to a specific site.

Then he told me something I had not heard before.

Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping off point for Middle East operations. Gee, why would we want cruise missile nukes at Barksdale Air Force Base. Can’t imagine we would need to use them in Iraq. Why would we want to preposition nuclear weapons at a base conducting Middle East operations?

His final point was to observe that someone on the inside obviously leaked the info that the planes were carrying nukes. A B-52 landing at Barksdale is a non-event. A B-52 landing with nukes. That is something else.

Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/05/staging-nukes-for-iran
You never transport nukes on a B52. You transport them on a cargo plane. Though?

TLAM Strike
09-07-07, 12:12 PM
...should have been removed from the plane. Instead, they were mounted on the bomber’s wings...
...CNN says the crew didn't know the weapons were on the bomber...

Ok I know the B-52 is big but for god's sake get up off your lazy @$$ and walk around the plane before taking off!! They do that on the little pointy nose planes. Its not like they were hidden in the bomb bay or anything they were hanging off the wings in plain view. :roll:

Perhaps it was the new B-52 stealth bomber and they just didn't see them ... :lol:

I'm sure the missles were supposed to be on the plane, just not with real warheads. The Air Force can't be that silly.

I'm sure weapons armed with nuclear warheads are painted with a easly reconized color so everyone on the base knows what they are and not to drop them/sit on them/spill coffee on them/etc. In the Russian Navy nuclear torpedoes were painted purple I belive. I would be shocked if the USAF didn't paint the nose cones of their nuclear cruise missiles a color diffrent from other missiles of the same type.

VonHammer
09-07-07, 01:39 PM
Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.

Either that or the information was deliberately leaked so that it would reach Tehran alongside the information that Barksdale is used for Middle Eastern Ops. A subtle way of warning Iran perhaps...not that the current admin does subtle very well. :hmm:

i think thats a good point there. those crazys over there might not be so willing to go to war with us. on the other hand a few weeks ago i saw somewhere that when we did our arms deal woth the saudis, Russia sold a billion $ worth of jets to Iran

The Avon Lady
09-09-07, 12:43 AM
Let's fess up. What's worse? The B52 nuke mishap or liars like these (http://news.monstersandcritics.com/africa/news/article_1351606.php/German_engineer_pleads_guilty_in_South_Africa_to_n uclear_smuggling)?

Three years at home with a monitor anklet. Pfft. :down:

Jimbuna
09-09-07, 05:56 AM
Now that's what I call doing 'hard time' :nope:

VonHammer
09-11-07, 07:54 AM
ill ave to admit that house arrest does seem pretty lame for someting as serius as nuclear sumggling. its about as lame when paris hiltion went to jail.

HunterICX
09-11-07, 10:41 AM
I see a new movie comming,

first Snakes on a Plane

now! NUKES on a plane

somewhere in the middle of the movie

Passenger : I see the clock ticking!
Samuel L Jackson : I'm tired of these motherf------ Nukes on this motherf------plane!

Dowly
09-11-07, 10:44 AM
:rotfl::rotfl:

Fish
09-27-07, 03:04 PM
B-52 Nukes Headed for Iran, Not For Decommissioning: Airforce Refused
Air Force refused to fly weapons to Middle East theater
By Wayne Madsen
Sept. 24, 2007
Author's website (http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/)
WMR has learned from U.S. and foreign intelligence sources that the B-52 transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles, each armed with a W-80-1 nuclear warhead, on August 30, were destined for the Middle East via Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.
However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S. intelligence agency personnel, successfully revealed the ultimate destination of the nuclear weapons and the mission was aborted due to internal opposition within the Air Force and U.S. Intelligence Community.
Yesterday, the Washington Post attempted to explain away the fact that America's nuclear command and control system broke down in an unprecedented manner by reporting that it was the result of "security failures at multiple levels." It is now apparent that the command and control breakdown, reported as a BENT SPEAR incident to the Secretary of Defense and White House, was not the result of a command and control chain-of-command "failures" but the result of a revolt and push back by various echelons within the Air Force and intelligence agencies against a planned U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional weapons.
The Washington Post story on BENT SPEAR may have actually been an effort in damage control by the Bush administration. WMR has been informed by a knowledgeable source that one of the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles was, and may still be, unaccounted for. In that case, the nuclear reporting incident would have gone far beyond BENT SPEAR to a National Command Authority alert known as EMPTY QUIVER, with the special classification of PINNACLE.
Just as this report was being prepared, Newsweek reported that Vice President Dick Cheney's recently-departed Middle East adviser, David Wurmser, told a small group of advisers some months ago that Cheney had considered asking Israel to launch a missile attack on the Iranian nuclear site at Natanz. Cheney reasoned that after an Iranian retaliatory strike, the United States would have ample reasons to launch its own massive attack on Iran. However, plans for Israel to attack Iran directly were altered to an Israeli attack on a supposed Syrian-Iranian-North Korean nuclear installation in northern Syria.
WMR has learned that a U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional weapons was scheduled to coincide with Israel's September 6 air attack on a reputed Syrian nuclear facility in Dayr az-Zwar, near the village of Tal Abyad, in northern Syria, near the Turkish border. Israel's attack, code named OPERATION ORCHARD, was to provide a reason for the U.S. to strike Iran. The neo-conservative propaganda onslaught was to cite the cooperation of the George Bush's three remaining "Axis of Evil" states -- Syria, Iran, and North Korea -- to justify a sustained Israeli attack on Syria and a massive U.S. military attack on Iran.
WMR has learned from military sources on both sides of the Atlantic that there was a definite connection between Israel's OPERATION ORCHARD and BENT SPEAR involving the B-52 that flew the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale. There is also a connection between these two events as the Pentagon's highly-classified PROJECT CHECKMATE, a compartmented U.S. Air Force program that has been working on an attack plan for Iran since June 2007, around the same time that Cheney was working on the joint Israeli-U.S. attack scenario on Iran.
PROJECT CHECKMATE was leaked in an article by military analyst Eric Margolis in the Rupert Murdoch-owned newspaper, the /Times of London/, is a program that involves over two dozen Air Force officers and is headed by Brig. Gen. Lawrence Stutzriem and his chief civilian adviser, Dr. Lani Kass, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who, astoundingly, is now involved in planning a joint U.S.-Israeli massive military attack on Iran that involves a "decapitating" blow on Iran by hitting between three to four thousand targets in the country. Stutzriem and Kass report directly to the Air Force Chief of Staff, General Michael Moseley, who has also been charged with preparing a report on the B-52/nuclear weapons incident.
Kass' area of speciality is cyber-warfare, which includes ensuring "information blockades," such as that imposed by the Israeli government on the Israeli media regarding the Syrian air attack on the alleged Syrian "nuclear installation." British intelligence sources have reported that the Israeli attack on Syria was a "true flag" attack originally designed to foreshadow a U.S. attack on Iran. After the U.S. Air Force push back against transporting the six cruise nuclear-armed AGM-129s to the Middle East, Israel went ahead with its attack on Syria in order to help ratchet up tensions between Washington on one side and Damascus, Tehran, and Pyongyang on the other.
The other part of CHECKMATE's brief is to ensure that a media "perception management" is waged against Syria, Iran, and North Korea. This involves articles such as that which appeared with Joby Warrick's and Walter Pincus' bylines in yesterdays /Washington Post/. The article, titled "The Saga of a Bent Spear," quotes a number of seasoned Air Force nuclear weapons experts as saying that such an incident is unprecedented in the history of the Air Force. For example, Retired Air Force General Eugene Habiger, the former chief of the U.S. Strategic Command, said he has been in the "nuclear business" since 1966 and has never been aware of an incident "more disturbing."
Command and control breakdowns involving U.S. nuclear weapons are unprecedented, except for that fact that the U.S. military is now waging an internal war against neo-cons who are embedded in the U.S. government and military chain of command who are intent on using nuclear weapons in a pre-emptive war with Iran.
CHECKMATE and OPERATION ORCHARD would have provided the cover for a pre-emptive U.S. and Israeli attack on Iran had it not been for BENT SPEAR involving the B-52. In on the plan to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iran involving nuclear weapons were, according to our sources, Cheney, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley; members of the CHECKMATE team at the Pentagon, who have close connections to Israeli intelligence and pro-Israeli think tanks in Washington, including the Hudson Institute; British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, a political adviser to Tony Blair prior to becoming a Member of Parliament; Israeli political leaders like Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Likud leader Binyamin Netanyahu; and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, who did his part last week to ratchet up tensions with Iran by suggesting that war with Iran was a probability. Kouchner retracted his statement after the U.S. plans for Iran were delayed.
Although the Air Force tried to keep the B-52 nuclear incident from the media, anonymous Air Force personnel leaked the story to /Military Times/ on September 5, the day before the Israelis attacked the alleged nuclear installation in Syria and the day planned for the simultaneous U.S. attack on Iran. The leaking of classified information on U.S. nuclear weapons disposition or movement to the media, is, itself, unprecedented. Air Force regulations require the sending of classified BEELINE reports to higher Air Force authorities on the disclosure of classified Air Force information to the media.
In another highly unusual move, Defense Secretary Robert Gates has asked an outside inquiry board to look into BENT SPEAR, even before the Air Force has completed its own investigation, a virtual vote of no confidence in the official investigation being conducted by Major General Douglas Raaberg, chief of air and space operations at the Air Combat Command.
Gates asked former Air Force Chief of Staff, retired General Larry Welch, to lead a Defense Science Board task force that will also look into the BENT SPEAR incident. The official Air Force investigation has reportedly been delayed for unknown reasons. Welch is President and CEO of the Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA), a federally-funded research contractor that operates three research centers, including one for Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President and another for the National Security Agency. One of the board members of IDA is Dr. Suzanne H. Woolsey of the Paladin Capital Group and wife of former CIA director and arch-neocon James Woolsey.
WMR has learned that neither the upper echelons of the State Department nor the British Foreign Office were privy to OPERATION ORCHARD, although Hadley briefed President Bush on Israeli spy satellite intelligence that showed the Syrian installation was a joint nuclear facility built with North Korean and Iranian assistance. However, it is puzzling why Hadley would rely on Israeli imagery intelligence (IMINT) from its OFEK (Horizon) 7 satellite when considering that U.S. IMINT satellites have greater capabilities.
The Air Force's "information warfare" campaign against media reports on CHECKMATE and OPERATION ORCHARD also affected international reporting of the recent International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) resolution asking Israel to place its nuclear weapons program under IAEA controls, similar to those that the United States wants imposed on Iran and North Korea. The resolution also called for a nuclear-free zone throughout the Middle East. The IAEA's resolution, titled "Application of IAEA Safeguards in the Middle East," was passed by the 144-member IAEA General Meeting on September 20 by a vote of 53 to 2, with 47 abstentions. The only two countries to vote against were Israel and the United States. However, the story carried from the IAEA meeting in Vienna by Reuters, the Associated Press, and Agence France Press, was that it was Arab and Islamic nations that voted for the resolution.
This was yet more perception management carried out by CHECKMATE, the White House, and their allies in Europe and Israel with the connivance of the media. In fact, among the 53 nations that voted for the resolution were China, Russia, India, Ireland, and Japan. The 47 abstentions were described as votes "against" the resolution even though an abstention is neither a vote for nor against a measure. America's close allies, including Britain, France, Australia, Canada, and Georgia, all abstained.
Suspiciously, the IAEA carried only a brief item on the resolution concerning Israel's nuclear program and a roll call vote was not available either at the IAEA's web site -- www.iaea.org (http://www.iaea.org/) -- or in the media.
The perception management campaign by the neocon operational cells in the Bush administration, Israel and Europe was designed to keep a focus on Iran's nuclear program, not on Israel's. Any international examination of Israel's nuclear weapons program would likely bring up Israeli nuclear scientist Mordechai Vanunu, a covert from Judaism to Christianity, who was kidnapped in Rome by a Mossad "honey trap" named Cheryl Bentov (aka, Cindy) and a Mossad team in 1986 and held against his will in Israel ever since.
Vanunu's knowledge of the Israeli nuclear weapons program would focus on the country's own role in nuclear proliferation, including its program to share nuclear weapons technology with apartheid South Africa and Taiwan in the late 1970s and 1980s. The role of Ronald Reagan's Director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Ken Adelman in Israeli's nuclear proliferation during the time frame 1983-1987 would also come under scrutiny. Adelman, a member of the Reagan-Bush transition State Department team from November 1980 to January 1981, voiced his understanding for the nuclear weapons programs of Israel, South Africa, and Taiwan in a June 28, 1981 /New York Times/ article titled, "3 Nations Widening Nuclear Contacts." The journalist who wrote the article was Judith Miller. Adelman felt that the three countries wanted nuclear weapons because of their ostracism from the West, the third world, and the hostility from the Communist countries. Of course, today, the same argument can be used by Iran, North Korea, and other "Axis of Evil" nations so designated by the neocons in the Bush administration and other governments.
There are also news reports that suggest an intelligence relationship between Israel and North Korea. On July 21, 2004, New Zealand's /Dominion Post/ reported that three Mossad agents were involved in espionage in New Zealand. Two of the Mossad agents, Uriel Kelman and Elisha Cara (aka Kra), were arrested and imprisoned by New Zealand police (an Israeli diplomat in Canberra, Amir Lati, was expelled by Australia and New Zealand intelligence identified a fourth Mossad agent involved in the New Zealand espionage operation in Singapore). The third Mossad agent in New Zealand, Zev William Barkan (aka Lev Bruckenstein), fled New Zealand -- for North Korea.
New Zealand Foreign Minister Phil Goff revealed that Barkan, a former Israeli Navy diver, had previously worked at the Israeli embassy in Vienna, which is also the headquarters of the IAEA. He was cited by the /Sydney Morning Herald/ as trafficking in passports stolen from foreign tourists in Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia. New Zealand's One News reported that Barkan was in North Korea to help the nation build a wall to keep its citizens from leaving.
The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control systems have every major capital around the world wondering about the Bush administration's true intentions.
NOTE: WMR understands the risks to informed individuals in reporting the events of August 29/30, to the present time, that concern the discord within the U.S. Air Force, U.S. intelligence agencies, and other military services. Any source with relevant information and who wishes to contact us anonymously may drop off sealed correspondence at or send mail via the Postal Service to: Wayne Madsen, c/o The Front Desk, National Press Club, 13th Floor, 529 14th St., NW, Washington, DC, 20045.


Wayne Madsen is a frequent contributor to Global Research.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6909

elite_hunter_sh3
09-27-07, 03:55 PM
the nukey is in israel... AL even you should know that...:roll:

"American supporters of Israel were delighted to learn that an Israeli company, Magal Security Systems-owned in part by the government of Israel-is in charge of security for the most sensitive nuclear power and weapons storage facilities in the United States."

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2007/09/26/8910.shtml

The Israelis probably have a nuclear cruise missile on their wish list.

In 1960's they commandeered French patrol boats in France. The Mossad has a long history of robbing friendly nations of weapons.

That B-52 with six cruise missile nukes was probably an Israeli Mossad operation because Israel has never been sold an airborne launched cruise nuke platform.

" Mossad has also worked to circumvent arms embargoes placed on Israel.

Another example of Israeli covert operations being used to circumvent an arms embargo was in 1968, when Mossad stole five gunboats which were being built for the Israeli's at Cherbourg, the French had refused to deliver them so Mossad stole them and sailed them to Haifa."

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/concepts_israeli_covert.html

Kapitan_Phillips
09-27-07, 04:40 PM
ill ave to admit that house arrest does seem pretty lame for someting as serius as nuclear sumggling. its about as lame when paris hiltion went to jail.


Agreed.

bookworm_020
09-27-07, 05:41 PM
ill ave to admit that house arrest does seem pretty lame for someting as serius as nuclear sumggling. its about as lame when paris hiltion went to jail.

Agreed.

Second the motion!

The Avon Lady
10-20-07, 02:17 PM
Now that so many conspiracy sites and writers of ill and dubious repute have had weeks to churn their tales of the original story's background ("There's a sucker born every minute"), some elementary facts come out:

Sloppiness, not following procedures, and plain foolishness are to blame (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/nuclear_mistake_has_air_force.html). No Iran. No Israel. No Syria. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. A whole lotta heads are rolling, as they should be.

At ease, Skybird. That is all.

Fish
10-20-07, 03:25 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500762.html

The Avon Lady
10-20-07, 03:32 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500762.html
Yes, that is the original early September news story this thread is discussing.

MadMike
10-26-07, 07:08 AM
They never bothered to perform safety checks as required by the tech data (RTFM). Anyone who was a GMT, WT, 55 Golf, ADM tech, or 463 knows what I'm talking about.

Yours, Mike

geetrue
10-26-07, 01:15 PM
Now we can enjoy a safer country from our own stored nukes, uh?

So we can have more time to worry about where their nukes are ... :yep: