Allah Akbar

[SUBMAN1]

FYI - Just a warning for those that asked for one - Before you view this link, it is of a motor exploding. There are no blood in guts, but some may find it offensive anyway.

http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=146543&ESRC=dod.nl

-S

[The Avon Lady]

Abra Kadabra (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=95f_1187534347).

[SUBMAN1]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Russia can supply them weapons any day of the week in my opinion!

-S

[Swede]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it...

[SUBMAN1]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it...
Hmm...Let me see...These guys are firing on our troops. Killing our boys. Sending them home in body bags. Yes, we have a 90 to 100 to 1 kill ratio, but still on occasion a bomb or motor gets our guys. Sorry, I don't feel your concern, and take pride in their failings. :D :p :D :up: :yep:

-S

PS. Any religion that advocates violence and killing of innocence - even their own, children, women, (Even using their own women as human bombs) so you could say indescriminant killing - serial killing, whatever you want to call it in the name of god deserves no concern from me to whatever happens to it.

[The Avon Lady]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it...
This coming from a guy with a Hotmail ID of "masterrace1'. :yep:

If you switch the word "Islam" with your use of the the word "Muslim", your statement will be more accurate. It's also old news.

People here also have an immense disdain for little Nazis - like you, for example. :yep:

[Tchocky]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=585820&postcount=1

[Letum]

1) This (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=634410&postcount=7)

2) Can we have some sort of restriction on links that show violent death or mortal
injury etc. or at least clear warnings in the post.

[SUBMAN1]

2) Can we have some sort of restriction on links that show violent death or mortal
injury etc. or at least clear warnings in the post.

If you mean blood and guts - I agree. None are here though. Just a flash.

-S

[Swede]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it...
Hmm...Let me see...These guys are firing on our troops. Killing our boys. Sending them home in body bags. Yes, we have a 90 to 100 to 1 kill ratio, but still on occasion a bomb or motor gets our guys. Sorry, I don't feel your concern, and take pride in their failings. :D :p :D :up: :yep:

-S

PS. Any religion that advocates violence and killing of innocence - even their own, children, women, (Even using their own women as human bombs) so you could say indescriminant killing - serial killing, whatever you want to call it in the name of god deserves no concern from me to whatever happens to it.

They are firing on your troops, killing your boys, BECAUSE YOU INVADED THEIR COUNTRY WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION

and mrs heebrew, why dont you just cut it out and gimmie a break ey

oh btw "People here also have an immense disdain for little Nazis - like you, for example".... so you say that this forum doesnt hate muslims but hate islam. But you hate nazis instead of national socialism?

[Skybird]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...20&postcount=1

Love him or hate him, but he has very valid points:

The trouble with Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

Islam in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM

Am I a racist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ZLXbKeL2U

The myth of Islamophobia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9LVf_KMO0

And in case you do not know him: he is as unforgiving about fundamental Christians, and the Churches in general, too. Sometimes I disagree in some details only, but all in all I wonder if maybe he has a direct uplink to the inside of my head.

The complete collection so far:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=patcondell&p=r

[Skybird]

and mrs heebrew, why dont you just cut it out and gimmie a break ey

Something tells me that you are not going to stay for much longer anymore.

[SUBMAN1]

They are firing on your troops, killing your boys, BECAUSE YOU INVADED THEIR COUNTRY WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION

and mrs heebrew, why dont you just cut it out and gimmie a break ey

oh btw "People here also have an immense disdain for little Nazis - like you, for example".... so you say that this forum doesnt hate muslims but hate islam. But you hate nazis instead of national socialism?

Uhhh - How do you say that when 99% are outsiders from other countries? Seems you missed that point completely.

Also, since you base things on the JUSTIFICATION portion, then you are wrong a second time in the same post that is based simply your wrong opinion. A ceasefire was all that was in place and the terms of that ceasefire were broken 100%, so how is that not having justification? Even if they never find nukes, you can't dispute that.

We could go back to Saddam if you want, but he likes to kill 30K people in one fell swoop with his chemical gas. His own people, and his neighbors. Hmm. Such a concept Mr. Master Race. By the way, that sounds very Nazi to me. Why do you call yourself the master race?

-S

[Swede]

When Saddam was in power, people were safe, people had jobs. He probably treated the sunnies or the ****s bad but i doubt he poured acid into childrens eyes and all the other stories that people seem to buy into.

How is mrs heebrew offensive? its like somone calling me Mr Scandinavian

Whats wrong with that email adress... funny thing is, no one here ever thought about the possibility of me being a black supremacist. ( because such a thing doesn exsist does it:up: )

[Tchocky]

Uhhh - How do you say that when 99% are outsiders from other countries? Seems you missed that point completely.
I really don't mean to get in the way here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_insurgency#Foreign_participants

While it is not known how many of those resisting the U.S. occupation in Iraq are from outside the country, it is generally agreed that foreign fighters make up a very small percentage of the insurgency. Major General (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_General) Joseph Taluto (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Taluto&action=edit), head of the 42nd Infantry Division (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Infantry_Division_%28United_States%29), said that "99.9 per cent" of captured Insurgents are Iraqi. in one analysis of over 1000 insurgents captured in Fallujah, only 15 were non-Iraqi There are allegations that the U.S. government has attempted to inflate the number of foreign fighters in order to advance the theory that the Resistance is not a local movement.

[SUBMAN1]

I really don't mean to get in the way here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_insurgency#Foreign_participants


Wikipedia is a terrible source for this type of information by the way. Go to college for example and it is not able to be used as a valid source of information.

That's besides the point though. You have 3 factions in Iraq - The Shiite, the Sunni, and foreign born outsiders Al-Qeida. The only ones in the group that will be shouting Allah Akbar don't need be mentioned. The Sunni's and Shiites are mostly made up of ex military, but also people with a grudge.

Anyway the good news is that I've seen reports lately where the Sunni's and Shiites are fighting Al-Qeida instead of US troops! THis is because Al-Qeida is primarily responsible for the sectarian violence in the first place and the Sunni and Shiites are trying to kick them out of the country. That is the first step to ending this bloody war.

-S

[Tchocky]

Yeah, a classmate of mine tried to cite it, no dice.

However, if you can provide any backing to you 99% claim I'd love to see it. Everything I've seen says the *exact* opposite. I only used wiki because it's close to hand.

[fatty]

Can someone please put some sort of content warning in the OP? Thanks...

[SUBMAN1]

When Saddam was in power, people were safe, people had jobs. He probably treated the sunnies or the ****s bad but i doubt he poured acid into childrens eyes and all the other stories that people seem to buy into.
Oh my gosh you are funny! :D :rotfl:Does this fall along the lines of Irans claim that the holocaust didn't happen? :p :D


How is mrs heebrew offensive? its like somone calling me Mr Scandinavian Ever heard of the word or words anti-sentimism?

Whats wrong with that email adress... funny thing is, no one here ever thought about the possibility of me being a black supremacist. ( because such a thing doesn exsist does it:up: ) Yes it does - very much so. It is a movement that is unlike any other that I have seen, espcially in the US. It is just more suttle and uses PC as a base to push agenda. I don't like Wikipedia, but this sums it up as a subject - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy - So we can get into more in-depth articles if you want, but that is completely off-topic and maybe best for another thread?

By the fact you have the Master Race as an email, brought up the subject as it not existing, I'd have to guess you are one too through deductive reasoning.

Black supremacy is a racist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy#_note-0) ideology which holds that black people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people) are superior to other people and is most often thought of in connection with anti-white racism, anti-Semitism and bigotry towards non-black people.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy#_note-1)

Strange that you put us on all of these subjects - Nice.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Yeah, a classmate of mine tried to cite it, no dice.

However, if you can provide any backing to you 99% claim I'd love to see it. Everything I've seen says the *exact* opposite. I only used wiki because it's close to hand.

Got it - I'll find the article /articles.

[SUBMAN1]

Here is where the Sunni's turned against Al Qaeda (25,000 of them) - http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-08-05-tribes_N.htm

Hmm - I didn't know they had a website for this:
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13380&Itemid=128

Wow! I didn't know Iraqis are standing up now!:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/06/gns_diyalatriballeaders_070607/
This year 12,000 Iraqis volunteered for Iraqi security forces in Anbar, up from 1,000 in 2006, Odierno said.
And this should put to rest the number of foreign fighters - half of which as Saudi - http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/latimesA98.html

Scratch that - that doesn't tell us anything. Let me dig more.

I see this lists the majority in Al Qaieda in Iraq is Iraqi born, but that means up to 40%+ are not to me, but the word majority can be almost anything:
Al Qaeda in Iraq and its affiliate groups number anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 individuals, the senior U.S. military officer said. Iraqis make up the majority of members, facilitating attacks, indoctrinating, fighting, but generally not blowing themselves up. Iraqis account for roughly 10% of suicide bombers, according to the U.S. military.


So the bombers are the foreigners.

-S

[RedMenace]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it... This coming from a guy with a Hotmail ID of "masterrace1'. :yep:

If you switch the word "Islam" with your use of the the word "Muslim", your statement will be more accurate. It's also old news.

People here also have an immense disdain for little Nazis - like you, for example. :yep:

Hey, Avon Lady, cut that crap out. Sure, we've all noticed his weird slipups before, but now it's getting annoying, don't bring up his faults every turn you get. He has a valid point, you, and all the other right wingnuts (and SkyBird) have this weird ISLAM IS EVIL sentiment going on, and it's horrible. It's about as bad as having masterace1 as your email adress. I'm not even muslim and I'm offended with your, and everyone else's, stupid phobia against Islam.

[Tchocky]

So the bombers are the foreigners. That certainly seems to be the case, most foreigners going into Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and behind the worst bombings.

However, it still looks like barely 10% of the total number of insurgents in the country are foreign. It puts a different spin on "we've got to fight them ther or they'll come here". Who, the 90% Iraqis?

etc etc

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1947246,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602519.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1576666,00.html

All from late 2005. the latest i could find was According to Department of State (2006), "Foreign fighters are believed to number about four to ten percent of the estimated 200,000 insurgents in Iraq"
From here (http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:eCbfCz7Iqv8J:www.aeaweb.org/annual_mtg_papers/2007/0105_1430_1601.pdf+percentage+of+foreign+fighters+ in+iraq&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9)

EDIT - found one from October 2006, still 1 in 10
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1003/p03s03-woiq.html

[Oberon]

http://www.exlap.com/images/allah_ackbar.jpg

:hmm:

[Tchocky]

It's a trap!

(careful with these kind of posts....:))

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/excessive_quotation.png

[Skybird]

I'm not even muslim and I'm offended with your, and everyone else's, stupid phobia against Islam.

Bah. I am not Islamophobic - I am stupidophobic. Inhumanophobic. Barbarophobic. Aggressophobic. Shariaphobic (as well as I am Inquisiphobic). If Islam would stay for itself and care noone else'e business, I would not care a second about it, like I also do not care if other people equip their appartement with the most terrible looking furniture I can imagine. But that is not what Islam is about. islam found me, in my home, in my country, in my culture. I did not ask for it, I did tell it to stay away, but it says it does not care. And now it tries to make me and others changing our ways of lives according to it's demands, turning our own laws and values against us in an effort to overcome 1.) our resistance, and then 2.) these laws and values themselves, giving us Islam instead. To hell with it.

You make the whole meaning of the word "phobic" meaningless. However, being called islamophobic today is more a compliment than an offense. This attribute seem to separate those who are aware of the attempt to kick our society back into the medieval, from those who beg for permission to keep their eyes closed and dream that it all does not happen for real. But it does.

You are offended, you say? Okay, be offended. You are free to feel offended, and you have the right to feel offended. But you have no right to demand that anyone must care for you feeling offended. So may you feel as little or as much offended as you prefer! Because that is not the criterion by which I decide either action or opinion.

Maybe you are realophobic?

[Swede]

Western modern culture is truly disgusting. I have no problem seeing what the muslims talk about.

Fat people driving humongos cars, earning and spending sick amounts of money. Sitting at home watching tv documentaries about how these arabs who do terror attacks because they "hate and envy their freedom". BS

Youve taken a **** on the wrong people this time, and they wont back down.

[Skybird]

Islam, Nazism, Scientology - all the same sick spirit's offsprings. There is known collaboration between Muslims organisations, and Neonazi organisations in europe and germany, since both are after the destruction of Western constitutional order, and the destruction of humanistic history and liberal values. Hitler expressed to admire Muhammedanism for it's unscrupulousness and lacking hesitation to enforce it's will with force.

If somebody, indicating his extreme rightleaning basic attitude and antisemite racism in several postings and internet activities, expresses sympathy for Islam at the same time, and disgust for western cultural background, then I am not surprised and would say this is only consistent.

And revealing.

[Tchocky]

There is known collaboration between Muslims organisations, and Neonazi organisations in europe and germany, since both are after the destruction of Western constitutional order, and the destruction of humanistic history and liberal values
Interesting. Link?

[joea]

When Saddam was in power, people were safe, people had jobs. He probably treated the sunnies or the ****s bad but i doubt he poured acid into childrens eyes and all the other stories that people seem to buy into.



Haha, I'll bet you'd ne the first to defend the attacks on Poland or the USSR (Stalin also made sure everyone had jobs) in a historical debate. Well bye bye to you soon I think.

P.S. I also was against the Iraq war, and in general this "War on Terror" I just am more coherent than you.

[Skybird]

There is known collaboration between Muslims organisations, and Neonazi organisations in europe and germany, since both are after the destruction of Western constitutional order, and the destruction of humanistic history and liberal values
Interesting. Link?
Years of news reports, TV documentation, covering in magazines and newspapers, police reports. You could also ask the BVS (Bundesverfassungsschutz), and some other according offices (who sometimes are shaky in their assessement and repeatedly have chnaged them by 180° over the years, currently it is en vogue to talk Islam acceptable again by saying the former links between Muslim and Nazi organizations are no longer valid). Probably it is to be found on the web, too. Mind if I do not take the time to find out?

But I have these.

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub47986C2FBFBD461B8A2C1EC681AD639D/Doc~E5749296FAA3A4237B50B560008399715~ATpl~Ecommon ~Scontent.html

http://www.ksta.de/html/artikel/1187344814141.shtml

Both articles stress that such alliances are rare, but time and again take place. We had seen it during the football WM ("the Iranians at least are a team of nationalistic players"), and it is indicated in the way Neonazi forums applaud the Iraqi resistance against the "cornflakes-soldiers" of the US. We have had meetings in Germany between representatives of organizations of both camps. we have seen local pacts and ceasefirings between violant groups and street crime parties.

Both Neonazism and islam are united in their hate on Israel, their hate on the Us and the values it stands for, and the attempt to destroy and opvercome the Western constitutional orders. Also both are unified in that they are icompatible with the values and laws the West stands for by it's historical origin and developement. And that is to have overcome the Inquisition, while Islam still insists on depending on Sharia, and Nazisms' obvious violent and hostile and racist face must not be commented, I think.

This does not mean that Nazis suddenly love subhumans and foreigners, and Muslims shake hand with atheist infidels. It's just another qact in the eternal play "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". At least locally, and sometimes.

I'm pissed by both.

[Oberon]

While we're on the subject of Islam:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6972093.stm

Cue massive protests.

[Swede]

Oh the link is alive and well, I have friends who went to iraq. Dont you worry little one

[Skybird]

While we're on the subject of Islam:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6972093.stm

Cue massive protests.

Quatsch, I saw that cartoon some days ago, it was meaningless, and even not clever, or good painted:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5307/svensksommuhrondellhundmz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5818/demonstrationshundenlitfn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(subtitle: "Has a dog Buddha-nature? Mu!")


I even could not smile at it, that boring it was. Everyone becoming hysteric about that and burning flags and yelling "Death to this and that" (in the name of the religion of peace, of course) is a psychotic dumba$$ who needs some more centuries to make it through puberty.

Meanwhile, here are some better things:

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200708/INT20070828a.html

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188197179708&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014986.php

And finally, the great enlightenment:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6889/islamholocaustel4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now - where is the public outcry? the muslim ambassadors being called in? The frantic street events featuring fireworks, hate chorusses and collective display of psychotic behavior? Where are the terror plots being planned against Mosques in retaliation, and the collective uproar for demanding defending against the aggression?

[Oberon]

While we're on the subject of Islam:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6972093.stm

Cue massive protests.

Quatsch, I saw that cartoon some days ago, it was meaningless, and even not clever, or good painted


Looking at the cartoon now I agree, I can draw better than that! But even if it was a six year olds drawing the outcome will most likely be the same, you know how much the Middle East likes to over-react on such things, a little scribble brings cries of jihad and beheadings. Yet we turn the other cheek at the various "UK will burn with wrath of Allah" signs they love to wave around at their gatherings. I do ponder why, perhaps we don't want to stoop to their level? But more likely the fact that if one single anti-Islamic banner is waved, the police force will come down like a ton of bricks, because Islamaphobia is not allowed.... :hmm: :damn:

[clayp]

This forum has a real anti muslim mood to it...

So what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........:x

[Skybird]

I do ponder why, perhaps we don't want to stoop to their level?
Maybe because we must not accept the hysteric temperament of a people with it's heads still sticking in the age of the inquisition as the criterion by which we decide what we do and what we do not do in our home, in our land, in our country, and in our culture. I mean, no Swedish man has asked a pakistani newspaper to print those cartoons. On the other hand, death-promising, highly racist and totally offending "cartoons" are published daily in the Muslim world that makes mockery of and ecourages intolerance against the West, Christianity, and especially Jews, and Israel, and even is broadcasted in daily special children programs on TV.

Do you have an idea how often I - as a German - was greeted and complimented in Muslims countries as a Nazi, a devout follower of Hitler (who is very much admired), and how often I was admired for the holocaust having happened (yep, the same holocaust the Iranians are denying), and that I should be proud of my ancestors for having killed so many jews? when doing my job, I had to bite my tongue and only turned icy, but when being private, I made clear in sharp words what i think of their unacceptable "compliments". Needless to say that I did not really win myself friends that way.

But for reasons of fairness i mujst say that althiugh such greetings were not rare, they also were not the rule. If needing to make a guess of how often it happened, I would say in 3 or 4 out of 10 contacts, also depending on where I was, of course.

Okay, enough islam-commenting by me for the time being. I'm bailing out here. Let's start again in 10 or 14 days :lol:

[waste gate]

Let's start again in 10 or 14 days

That seems to be about the right time frame for this discussion.

[nikimcbee]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Russia can supply them weapons any day of the week in my opinion!

-S

:up: now why are we worrying about the bulava missle?
Someday, the Russians will figure out the quality vs quantity idea...Someday:dead:

But in the defence of the Russians, good training and maintenance can help a lot.

[Happy Times]

Oh the link is alive and well, I have friends who went to iraq. Dont you worry little one

Im considering of sending a tip to the SIS, Säpo and FBI.:p

[Swede]

oooohhhh some kid on a forum figured something out that the goverments secrect police hadnt....:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_Wasa

[HMCS]

"Hey, Ahmed! did you check the timing on those fuses? I have a feeling they sent us some bad ammo last time. You better check them."

[Happy Times]

oooohhhh some kid on a forum figured something out that the goverments secrect police hadnt....:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_Wasa

Well can you give the names of those friends? :p If we would be talking live instead of internet you wouldnt call me kid.;)

[sunvalleyslim]

"Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King
Los Angeles, Calif. 1992

[Swede]

"Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King
Los Angeles, Calif. 1992

Hahahaha and look what happend to him!

[AntEater]

mortars can be tricky, you never know which end goes in first.

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1660295
(German army 120mm mortar practice)

The fire team leader yelling "turn that thing around!" is simply hillarious

[kiwi_2005]

When Saddam was in power, people were safe, people had jobs. He probably treated the sunnies or the ****s bad but i doubt he poured acid into childrens eyes and all the other stories that people seem to buy into.


Should watch this:

The Murderous Reign of Saddam Hussein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyhTI7ZpnlE

[Happy Times]

mortars can be tricky, you never know which end goes in first.

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1660295
(German army 120mm mortar practice)

The fire team leader yelling "turn that thing around!" is simply hillarious

WTF, two different guys are loading the mortar and its the first one that is going the wrong way in.:huh:

Here is another one, they go oops when the team leader tells them its going wrong way in.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PZq37vVaf7w

Here happens a double-load in the positon next to them. They say fack when they hear the call for a medic in the comms. One killed and others severely injured.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w49IVQUxek0

[elite_hunter_sh3]

edit : off topic moving to new thread

[Swede]

edit : off topic moving to new thread


?

You pretending your a moderator?

Ok so their avatars are cool but come on man

[elite_hunter_sh3]

no... i jus thought for a min or 2 after a wrote some things that i shudnt have written.. so i edited it out...:shifty: no more questions.. moving on..

[nikimcbee]

http://www.exlap.com/images/allah_ackbar.jpg

:hmm:

How did I miss this?:p :oops:
Now that is funny!:rock: I new there was a reason I always played the "Empire".:arrgh!:

[SUBMAN1]

Oh the link is alive and well, I have friends who went to iraq. Dont you worry little one

Oh yeah? Whom? I detect the BS meter is quickly rising! :p :D :p :D

-S

[August]

"Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King
Los Angeles, Calif. 1992
Hahahaha and look what happend to him!

Yeah he won 3.8 million dollars from the city of Los Angeles...