View Full Version : death throws of uk military
micky1up
08-28-07, 12:20 PM
a serving para in the combat zone gets crippled by a land mine(37 seperate injuries) and get 150k for his loyalty and effort
a desk jockey gets RSI in her thumb and gets 500k
and they wonder why personel are leaving in their droves and nobody wants to sign up
wake up generals admirals and MOD before theres nobody left :damn:
Tchocky
08-28-07, 12:24 PM
Nobody wants to sign up, possibly related to Iraq/Afghanistan.
And it's "death throes".
And if they did sign up, would they actually get anything for them to use against the enemy? :hmm:
SUBMAN1
08-28-07, 01:41 PM
We seem to be meeting our recruitment goals over here. Strange that you wouldn't over there. The wars actually have increased recruitment since action seems to attract the young, and boredom seems to drive them away.
Skybird
08-28-07, 04:07 PM
It's often reprted that the US has great difficulties to meet it's recruitment goals, and is able to fulfill them only by having lowered the hurdles which recruits have to pass to be accepted as service-ready.
In other words: you do not get the quality of men and characters as before.
Morals and command structures will reflect that decrease in quality sooner or later. If it hasn't already started.
Tchocky
08-28-07, 04:52 PM
We seem to be meeting our recruitment goals over here. Strange that you wouldn't over there. The wars actually have increased recruitment since action seems to attract the young, and boredom seems to drive them away.Been reading this guy's blog for a while now. A piece on re-enlistment
http://armyofdude.blogspot.com/2007/07/happy-dependence-day.html
(not the same thing, I know :))
bookworm_020
08-28-07, 06:47 PM
Australia managed to excced the quota of new enlistments this year. Better pay was one of the reasons. I wonder if any military people from the U.K. would be interested in a transfer down under? More sun, higher standard of living, more dangerous wildlife than you can poke a stick at.... Ooops! Forget the last point!
The difference is, the desk Jockey got RSI as a result of poor H&S standards at her work. i.e. it was her employers fault so they pay.
The para, however, was injured by enemy action. i.e. it was not his employer's fault so they do not pay.
If the para could prove that his employer (the army) knew about the land mine's location, but still told him to stand on it*; then assuming he won the case in court, he would receive far more than the desk jockey with RSI.
*or any other form of irrisponsibility like this.
The difference is, the desk Jockey got RSI as a result of poor H&S standards at her work. i.e. it was her employers fault so they pay.
The para, however, was injured by enemy action. i.e. it was not his employer's fault so they do not pay.
If the para could prove that his employer (the army) knew about the land mine's location, but still told him to stand on it*; then assuming he won the case in court, he would receive far more than the desk jockey with RSI.
*or any other form of irrisponsibility like this.
The sad thing is Letum is right, I hear on the radio many are not signing up for another tour and just leaving the army and this is one of the reasons.
It's about time the law was changed to insure these people get a proper pay out and the care they need. They were set out there by our government Tony Blair who never payed his respects to those who came home in a body bags and Gordon Brown is doing the same thing.
It's about time the law was changed to insure these people get a proper pay out and the care they need. They were set out there by our government Tony Blair who never payed his respects to those who came home in a body bags and Gordon Brown is doing the same thing.
Well, we can't pay out as if it where a compensation claim. That would mean paying out several times the UK's entire treasury!
They already get all the care they need on the NHS, a injury payment and a pension for the rest of their lives in addition to the usual state pension after the pension age. They are certainly not left neglected.
I don't think that trying to cover the injury and death that results from war with cash settlements is the ultimate solution. I don't think we can pay off our debt to our servicemen in anyway!
Whilst we are on the topic, here is an unjustice! Apperantly VC winners have "no strong ties" to the UK:
Visa Officers at the British Embassy in Kathmandu, Nepal, have rejected requests from British Army Gurkhas to come and settle in the United Kingdom. Those rejected have included Tul Bahadur Pun VC (a Gurkha who won the Victoria Cross in World War II) and Lance Corporal Gyanendra Rai (a Gurkha seriously wounded by Argentine artillery at Bluff Cove, in the Falkland Islands in 1982). British Visa Officers say that these brave Gurkhas do not have "strong ties" to the United Kingdom, despite years of service in the British Army. (And a bloody VC FFS!)
If you would like to support the Gurkha Army Ex-Servicemen's Organisation (GAESO) and Howe & Co Solicitors' campaign to repay the debt this country owes to the brave men of the Brigade of Gurkhas, by allowing all our Gurkha heroes a right to come and settle in the UK (we should welcome them not abandon them) then please sign the petition on the 10 Downing Street website, here: PETITION (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/gurkhas-rights/).
http://vchero.co.uk/
If you would like to support the Gurkha Army Ex-Servicemen's Organisation (GAESO) and Howe & Co Solicitors' campaign to repay the debt this country owes to the brave men of the Brigade of Gurkhas, by allowing all our Gurkha heroes a right to come and settle in the UK (we should welcome them not abandon them) then please sign the petition on the 10 Downing Street website, here: PETITION (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/gurkhas-rights/).
http://vchero.co.uk/
We got some of them home let's get them all home.
This reminds me of what happened to Filipino-American servicemembers after World War II. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_American#World_War_II_veteran_benefits)
sign the petition on the 10 Downing Street website, here: PETITION (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/gurkhas-rights/).
Just signed that, and I'd encourage everyone else who is a UK resident to do so too.
:D Chock
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