B-52 - For sale?

[VonHammer]

just saw this article on yahoo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070824/od_nm/russia_usa_bomber_dc

quite surprising if you ask me.

[Sailor Steve]

A lot of different warplanes are available on the public market, some of them fairly new. The B-52 is now 55 years old and has quite a bit of history behind it. I'm not surprised somebody tried.

What gets me is the cost; back in 1952 they ran about $8 million each.

[VonHammer]

thats true. but u just dont see a indivdual going up and asking to buy a $550 million dollar plane out of the blue. and i belive your right about there being many differnt warplanes available for purchase, i belive that the most produced jet aircraft was either the MiG-27 or MiG-17 one of those two.

[panzer 49th]

"It would cost 500 million if sold on the spot" "thats no problem":rotfl:LOL:rotfl:

[stew278]

and i belive your right about there being many differnt warplanes available for purchase, i belive that the most produced jet aircraft was either the MiG-27 or MiG-17 one of those two. According to a documentary on the History channel, the Mig 21 is the worlds most produced combat jet; something around >10,000 built.

At the USAF museum in Dayton, there is a Mig 23 on display. The story behind it is that it was purchased by a US civilian, but was confiscated by BATF because they imported it without proper permits.

[FooFighters]

Now this is a cool article..

For that money he can built one himself :rotfl:

[VonHammer]

and if u did buy it, what would you do with it? i mean its not like a private get which you can land at any decent airport. and imagaine the what the cost to fill it up would be! and im pretty sure the fuel economy isnt that like that of a toyota.

[pythos]

Problem I have is, this is an incontinental bomber. It was my understanding that no US IC bomber could be released to the public in flyable condition due to the threat it posed. This was at least the story with the few B-36s available. Not one can fly nor can they currently ever fly again. Dallas Fort worth historical society tried to restore their example to a flyable condition, until the airforce stated they needed to demilitarize it, what does that mean? Well I thought it meant they removed any and all weapons systems fromt the aircraft. In actuallity it was this along with the dispicable act of pulling the engines off with an f'ing tractor. They litterally ripped the engines and mounts off the wing mounts, thus imparting so much damage to the airframe it will take a whole lot of work to get it to fly again.

So how in the world can a private person be able to purchase a flyable example of a B-52?

[VonHammer]

novelty item i guess? it would defintly impress your freinds.

[simonb1612]

and dont you think that it would scare the cr*p out of any russian monitoring stations when he tried to fly it home! Especially now the russian airforce has resumed unannounced flights into nato airspace.:ping:

[VonHammer]

yea i guess they probaly havnt seen a B-52 on their radar scopes in a while. i think that within the next few years we might see the rise of a new Russia-it could be back to Cold War era again....

[bookworm_020]

Maybe he wanted to live out a Dr Stangelove role play?

Now where is my hat! YEEEEHAAA!:arrgh!:

[VonHammer]

yea and since it seems like theryre allies with Iran- who knows what could happen!

[Oberon]

Could you imagine the faces of a Tu-95's crew seeing that going the other way on one of their trips out? :lol:

[swifty]

thats true. but u just dont see a indivdual going up and asking to buy a $550 million dollar plane out of the blue. and i belive your right about there being many differnt warplanes available for purchase, i belive that the most produced jet aircraft was either the MiG-27 or MiG-17 one of those two.

Go to the Miami boat show. Every time I go I see or hear about foreign nationals asking how much it will cost for them to be driving a multi million yacht that night. For a lot of these people money is not an object. They will blow millions on the spot.

[SUBMAN1]

...What gets me is the cost; back in 1952 they ran about $8 million each.
My calculations put $8 million in 1952 at about $480 Million in todays dollars, so that sounds about right. Add in another $20 million for improved avionics, and I think his $500 million is about right on the mark as a pretty accurate estimate on what it would cost to build a replacement today, on assembly line dollars - assuming no new research needed to be done.

-S

[VonHammer]

and theres bound to be even more improvements the B-52. that plane will last probaly another 50 years.

[AntEater]

Strange with the B-36.
Pretty much everybody could buy a Boeing 747 and would a much more capable intercontinental bomber than a B-36 with just a few modifications.

What do you think, it should be possible to construct a GPS-guided glider bomb similar to LongShot and drop it from a high flying airliner that filed a regular flight plan and does not deviate from it.
Commercial GPS, components of homebuild aircraft and a conventional freefall air bomb (thousands of which must be lying around in Afghanistan or Iraq) would suffice.
The airliner would be an inconspicious freighter of some charter airline, the bomb(s) being simply rolled out of the sideways cargo door with no or minor modifications to the aircraft itself.
From 20,000 feet even an unpowered glide bomb would have a huge radius and given that even a freighter 737 could carry more than one, it would be a devastating terrorist attack without any suiciders.
How's that for a Tom Clancy novel idea??
:D

[VonHammer]

pretty good if you ask me. ive read almost all of his books including all of the Jack Ryan sereis. something similar he did in Executive Orders- where some crazy Jap airline piolts crash a airliner into the capitol building killing a majority of the govrnment. oh how somedays i wish that would realy happen...

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://www.tankride.com/Contract_Sales.html


lets seee with the right amount of money i can legalize a tank !!!:hmm: as long it has rubber tracks and DOT lights and side markers, and it passes emissions (that is doable, i can reweld a new custom exhaust which features catalyctic converters to clean the exhaust gasses), and tada! although i wonder about insurance :shifty: (not that i need it since 3.5 inches of reinforced steel to protect me from "up to 120mm rounds, small arms fire, rocket propelled grenades (rpg), some land mines, armor peircing rounds
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

...although i wonder about insurance :shifty: (not that i need it since 3.5 inches of reinforced steel to protect me from "up to 120mm rounds, small arms fire, rocket propelled grenades (rpg), some land mines, armor peircing rounds
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
Well, I'd personally forego any comp and collision, since you can invest in a bucket of paint to cover any accidental damage to your tank (unless you run into another tank, but that is probably highly improbable). I would however up the liability since running over your neighbors car or through garage accidently could get rather costly! :D

-S

[d@rk51d3]

Problem I have is, this is an incontinental bomber.


You mean it leaks uncontrollably? :D

[SUBMAN1]

Problem I have is, this is an incontinental bomber....

....So how in the world can a private person be able to purchase a flyable example of a B-52?
You can restore anything. So what if a civilian owns a B-52 too. He can fly it, that's fine, but is a single bomber really a threat? Maybe to an under-equipped country, but outsode of that, no! A B-52 is a monster target for a jet jockey to play with. See my video on how quickly a badger bites the dust - I just noticed a tiny blip too when I wasn't even looking for it - 30 seconds later, it is plumeting to the ground!

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1029789T9qcshHS

The point is, I think the US is over-reacting on tearing up its old aircraft.

-S

[Tchocky]

Sell him the bomber, but keep bombs under lock and key :)

[VonHammer]

http://www.tankride.com/Contract_Sales.html


lets seee with the right amount of money i can legalize a tank !!!:hmm: as long it has rubber tracks and DOT lights and side markers, and it passes emissions (that is doable, i can reweld a new custom exhaust which features catalyctic converters to clean the exhaust gasses), and tada! although i wonder about insurance :shifty: (not that i need it since 3.5 inches of reinforced steel to protect me from "up to 120mm rounds, small arms fire, rocket propelled grenades (rpg), some land mines, armor peircing rounds
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

what about gas? i would hate to see the mpg sticker on one. and probaly the next time your speeding, the cops might think twice about giving you a ticket. for that matter even turning on there lights

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://www.tankride.com/Contract_Sales.html


lets seee with the right amount of money i can legalize a tank !!!:hmm: as long it has rubber tracks and DOT lights and side markers, and it passes emissions (that is doable, i can reweld a new custom exhaust which features catalyctic converters to clean the exhaust gasses), and tada! although i wonder about insurance :shifty: (not that i need it since 3.5 inches of reinforced steel to protect me from "up to 120mm rounds, small arms fire, rocket propelled grenades (rpg), some land mines, armor peircing rounds
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
what about gas? i would hate to see the mpg sticker on one. and probaly the next time your speeding, the cops might think twice about giving you a ticket. for that matter even turning on there lights
gas is no problem i wont be driving a 60 ton main battle tank through congested city streets:shifty:, and i cant get a speeding ticket cuz there is no friggin way a t-72 can even get to 100/kmh :arrgh!:,(max is 60kmh) might be a good commute to school whichi is around 2km away. so i go 4km every day total:hmm::hmm: (740hp diesiel engine) the max range on crusing speed is 500km / 900km (with axuliary external mounted fuel tanks), and it can run diesel, gasoline or kerosene :arrgh!: o and it has 500mm worth of armor on the front and sides i believe, it can withstand a M1A1/2 abrams MBT tank round up to 2km away

EDIT: i can also get the following military hardware:
t72 price ranges from (55,000$-125,000$)
comes with rubber tracks so it can be drivin on city streets
1.BMP1/2 (35,000-90,000$)
2. FLYING condition MIG-21 (85,000$)
3. T55 MBT (33,000$ -55,000$)

here is there inventory of tanks
http://www.tankride.com/images/T-72%20For%20Sale%20a2.JPG

[VonHammer]

EDIT: i can also get the following military hardware:
t72 price ranges from (55,000$-125,000$)
comes with rubber tracks so it can be drivin on city streets
1.BMP1/2 (35,000-90,000$)
2. FLYING condition MIG-21 (85,000$)
3. T55 MBT (33,000$ -55,000$)




so for bout the price of a brand new Cadiliac XLR (btw i have both ridien and driven one, my grandpa has one) you could get a T-72. hmm which one to chose?
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1608/180pxt72wij4.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3774/250pxcadillacxlr2006jp3.jpg

[elite_hunter_sh3]

t72 any day!!! ridiculously good off road driving and imagine during the winter!!!:arrgh!:

and fyi now you can find rubber tracks for road use, which means there is a chance you can modify to make that tank stret legal and registered....:arrgh!:

[VonHammer]

well then i guess if oyour driving a T-72 to school, they might have to think twice about towing you. no problems finding a parking spot. :arrgh!:

[The Avon Lady]

well then i guess if oyour driving a T-72 to school, they might have to think twice about towing you. no problems finding a parking spot. :arrgh!:
You mean:

Q. Where does a T72 park?
A. Anywhere it wants to.

[Lafferty]

http://www.tankride.com/Contract_Sales.html


lets seee with the right amount of money i can legalize a tank !!!:hmm: as long it has rubber tracks and DOT lights and side markers, and it passes emissions (that is doable, i can reweld a new custom exhaust which features catalyctic converters to clean the exhaust gasses), and tada! although i wonder about insurance :shifty: (not that i need it since 3.5 inches of reinforced steel to protect me from "up to 120mm rounds, small arms fire, rocket propelled grenades (rpg), some land mines, armor peircing rounds
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
what about gas? i would hate to see the mpg sticker on one. and probaly the next time your speeding, the cops might think twice about giving you a ticket. for that matter even turning on there lights
gas is no problem i wont be driving a 60 ton main battle tank through congested city streets:shifty:, and i cant get a speeding ticket cuz there is no friggin way a t-72 can even get to 100/kmh :arrgh!:,(max is 60kmh) might be a good commute to school whichi is around 2km away. so i go 4km every day total:hmm::hmm: (740hp diesiel engine) the max range on crusing speed is 500km / 900km (with axuliary external mounted fuel tanks), and it can run diesel, gasoline or kerosene :arrgh!: o and it has 500mm worth of armor on the front and sides i believe, it can withstand a M1A1/2 abrams MBT tank round up to 2km away

EDIT: i can also get the following military hardware:
t72 price ranges from (55,000$-125,000$)
comes with rubber tracks so it can be drivin on city streets
1.BMP1/2 (35,000-90,000$)
2. FLYING condition MIG-21 (85,000$)
3. T55 MBT (33,000$ -55,000$)

here is there inventory of tanks
http://www.tankride.com/images/T-72%20For%20Sale%20a2.JPG

I'll take the one on the left.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

http://www.tankride.com/images/IMG_5993.JPG

o yea and also they managed to get ahold of a few leopard 1 A5 tanks... like the MODERN Leopard 1 tanks :huh: "contact for price and information"

the t-72s r in excellent condition fyi (probably the expensive ones :88))
http://www.tankride.com/images/T-72%20Live9.JPG
http://www.tankride.com/images/T-72%20Live6.JPG
http://www.tankride.com/images/T-72%20For%20Sale%20a6.JPG

[elite_hunter_sh3]

o and they have the following MIGs in stock

Mig 21
http://user.sezampro.yu/%7Evkeza/images/mig-21.jpg
http://www.airforce.ru/aircraft/mikoyan/mig-21/mig-21smt/MiG-21SMT_2.jpg

and NEW ADDITION!!!! a MIG 25!! :huh::huh: ie the supersonic MIG-25 :arrgh!:

http://www.enemyforces.com/aircraft/mig25.jpg
http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/mig25_1_3v.jpg

[SUBMAN1]

I might be able to afford the gas for the MiG-21, but definitely the gas for the MiG-25 would be out of my league! :-?

-S

[VonHammer]

this is like the black market almost. the wal-mart of military hardware.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ya lol// o ya theres also new stuff. got a email last night,

APCs GALORE!!!

http://www.tankride.com/images/OT643.JPG

M53 praga 30mm armored truck
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/serbia/praga.htm
if i had the money id buy the truck simply cuz im from serbia and its serbian :arrgh!::arrgh!:

[VonHammer]

i think that would be the place to do all your xmas shopping. they got anything on sale?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

lol i dont know if they have any sales, maybe a christmas special?? im not sure

they are looking for japanese guns, tanks, and tank parts.. so someone who wants a t 72 and has some jap stuff can probably trade and get like store credit or something...

[VonHammer]

lol yea or amybe a discount on t 72 repairs, at least with these you dont have to worry about them bieng made in china with lead paint...

[TLAM Strike]

EDIT: i can also get the following military hardware:
t72 price ranges from (55,000$-125,000$)
comes with rubber tracks so it can be drivin on city streets
1.BMP1/2 (35,000-90,000$)
2. FLYING condition MIG-21 (85,000$)
3. T55 MBT (33,000$ -55,000$)

How much for a simple old WWII Jeep. Not the Vietnam era ones with indi suspention (A buddy whos driven those tells me they tend to flip over easly). :hmm:

It would be perfict for getting around assuming road salt dosn't destroy it.

[VonHammer]

back in july i saw one at an auto show for $14000, 1942 i belive.