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pythos
08-19-07, 10:40 PM
Or... I can't see you, but you can somehow see me!!

So I get a call from my crew that there is a ship spotted. When I look in the direction stated I can see nothing. My boat is moving at 2/3 speed, so is not really putting out much of a wake. Then from the direction called out by the crew, I see a flash, and seconds later a shell wizzes by. Following this one is one that hits my boat.

WTF? How can he get a bead on my small speck of a ship, when I can't even see him?

What is the visual range of the AI in Trigger Maru 1.5? Cause it seems they have superman's eyes. Due to my irritance with how the ai seem to see miles and miles, I just reloaded, and dived imediately. This was to no avail, when I heard the pings from the ship several minutes after diving and running silent.

I think the AI may have waaaaaaaaaay too sensitive sensors. I really think it makes convoy attack nigh on impossible, or risky at best. You can't shadow the convoys, cause if you can barely see them, they see you as if your boat is a gigantic lantern on the water.

Due to the non implementation of "smoke on the horizon" we really cannot do as the real life skippers did, so we need to be able to see the hulls. But if we see the hulls, we get jumped on as if we were firing off skyrockets, saying "hey!!! over here!!!"

Anyone else have a similar problem?

theluckyone17
08-19-07, 10:49 PM
Actually, I've had the reverse, for the most part... Visual checks seem to be ok. When I do get spotted, considering the circumstances (weather, type of ship spotting me, etc.), it makes sense.

When I'm submerged... well... early war (haven't gotten to a mid/late career yet), sneaking off while submerged seems to be pretty easy, with one notable exception in my career. Most of the time, I can dive below the thermal layer, keep it at 100 RPM or lower, orientate myself so I'm not presenting abeam, and I'm fine.

I did have a destroyer and subchaser once that I just couldn't shake... but I probably gave up early due to frustration, and not keeping my speed up.

*helpless shrug*

Rockin Robbins
08-20-07, 06:54 AM
That's not too unusual. The Japanese (unlike the Americans, who avoided every chance for night and low visibility training), were masters of night and low visibility combat. A night battle between US and Japanese ships was absolute slaughter in Japanese favor regardless of the relative sizes of the forces.

With their excellent infared equipment and intensive low-visibility training, what you're seeing is entirely plausible. Those Japanese aren't exactly the near-sighted shrimpboats wearing the cheap glasses from your comic strip, are they? If you want to live, respect your enemy.

seaniam81
08-20-07, 03:42 PM
one other solution to your problem? what year was it because Jap's had radar too. didn't they?

SteamWake
08-20-07, 03:49 PM
one other solution to your problem? what year was it because Jap's had radar too. didn't they?

I was going to ask the same thing.

Radar's only limit is line of sight (curviture of the earth) fog is irrelevant. Rain is another matter.

Now that Ive said this. I do belive the AI is a little too good at it.