Being top Boss in China can be hazardous to your health!

[SUBMAN1]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/tragic-ending-for-man-behind-toy-recall-drama/2007/08/13/1186857427643.html

This guy probably would have been executed anyway like the food recall boss. Amazing how America is supporting this kind of behavior.

-S

[The Avon Lady]

Amazing how America is supporting this kind of behavior.
What exactly is America supporting? :hmm: Did Uncle Same tell him to go ahead and hang himself? :nope:

[SUBMAN1]

Amazing how America is supporting this kind of behavior. What exactly is America supporting? :hmm: Did Uncle Same tell him to go ahead and hang himself? :nope:

No - This guy would have been executed had he not done it for the state. That is the problem. Or have you forgotten about Chinese executions? Anything that makes the state look bad is met with death over there.

-S

[Jimbuna]

Bloody glad I'm not a boss over there!! :o

[STEED]

Bloody glad I'm not a boss over there!! :o

Good news jim, your promotion has come though with a 100% pay rise. Pack your bags your off to China. :lol:

[bradclark1]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/tragic-ending-for-man-behind-toy-recall-drama/2007/08/13/1186857427643.html

This guy probably would have been executed anyway like the food recall boss. Amazing how America is supporting this kind of behavior.

-S
The corporate dollar has no conscience.

[Jimbuna]

Bloody glad I'm not a boss over there!! :o

Good news jim, your promotion has come though with a 100% pay rise. Pack your bags your off to China. :lol:

I prefer to work in the Atlantic ;)

[SUBMAN1]

I prefer to work in the Atlantic ;)

Me too - you're damned if you do and damned if you don't over there. You're under pressure from the state to cut costs and maximize profits as an order. Then when something screws up, the state executes you for doing what they told you to do.

-S

[peterloo]

I knew that he commited suicide today, and I found that, neither he nor his friend are responsible for the tragedy, despite the fact that his friend supplied toxic paint to him. The one responsible, uh, those cross country coperations


Me too - you're damned if you do and damned if you don't over there. You're under pressure from the state to cut costs and maximize profits as an order. Then when something screws up, the state executes you for doing what they told you to do.

-S

The China State forces the manufactures to cut costs? No. Definitely not. China is going to follow the road of free economy, which means that, the supply and demand rocks and counts in the market. The higher you set the price, the lower the quantity transacted is, and vise versa. (Knowing the PRC government fames itself for following the communism / socialism, I feel that, following this road is quite sarcastic)

The one responsible are the CEO of cross-country coperations. They offer low prices to the factory owners, so that they can earn every single penny possible and gain the lion share! No sooner did a problem arise then they put the blame on those innocent workers.
Imagine you buy a barbie doll for $10, but a major part, like $9.5 goes to the retailers' pockets. Only $0.5 goes to the factory. In this way, notwithstanding the low input by capital, the factory can't ensure the quality of the good provided that, can they? Before you blame anyone, please look at the full part of the story. Is it justice to blame someone just because you've read part of the story?

Furthermore, as what I've said, poisoning the customer is the perfect way to wand them off. That we won't do it if the input via those coperations, is a fact.

Selfish as she is, American government won't tell you this part of story. But I think you should have the right to know this important, yet omitted part.

[The Avon Lady]

So, folks, this isn't only about America. This is about England, France, Russia, Spain, and practically every country across the globe. They all do business with China.

Are you all suggesting a tight international business boycott against China? Personally I don't mind but it would have to be an all or none action. Do you think this is realistic?

:nope:

[The Avon Lady]

Next (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070814/ap_on_bi_ge/toy_recall;_ylt=AuVD7MgpsciKzFzjJkT0xwus0NUE)!!! :dead:

[Jimbuna]

......and as we all know....as dangerous as it might be....kids, if not properly supervised have an inherent tendency to put toys into their mouths :yep:

[SUBMAN1]

I knew that he commited suicide today, and I found that, neither he nor his friend are responsible for the tragedy, despite the fact that his friend supplied toxic paint to him. The one responsible, uh, those cross country coperations

The China State forces the manufactures to cut costs? No. Definitely not. China is going to follow the road of free economy, which means that, the supply and demand rocks and counts in the market. The higher you set the price, the lower the quantity transacted is, and vise versa. (Knowing the PRC government fames itself for following the communism / socialism, I feel that, following this road is quite sarcastic) I dont' believe all of this. The government has their hands in everything over there. The degree of control is what is in question. I'm sure a ton of pressure is put on these guys to perform, which results in questionable product like this. Yes, the CEO has most control (has to for somewhat of a free market to operate), but he obviously has his hands tied to some degree. I think I have a video on this subject that I can cut out and upload if you want to watch.

The one responsible are the CEO of cross-country coperations. They offer low prices to the factory owners, so that they can earn every single penny possible and gain the lion share! No sooner did a problem arise then they put the blame on those innocent workers.No doubt since killing a lot of workers looks bad when you can execute one CEO. This is an act of self preservation. The government won't kill all the workers, but for the CEO, that is a different story.

Imagine you buy a barbie doll for $10, but a major part, like $9.5 goes to the retailers' pockets. Only $0.5 goes to the factory. In this way, notwithstanding the low input by capital, the factory can't ensure the quality of the good provided that, can they? Before you blame anyone, please look at the full part of the story. Is it justice to blame someone just because you've read part of the story?
Actually it is the factory that is at fault, so your answer is completely wrong. If you understand anything about business, they took the bid to build the product at a certain price, and if they cannot build it at the price the bid, then they cannot build it for the price they said they could. What you have here is the factory cutting dangerous corners to meet the price they bid when they couldn't normally meet it. This is 100% - not one percent less - This is 100% the factory's fault! 'No' one else is at fault.

Furthermore, as what I've said, poisoning the customer is the perfect way to wand them off. That we won't do it if the input via those coperations, is a fact.Not if you get away with it. This is what a lot of China is doing - getting away with it, since only a few are caught.

Selfish as she is, American government won't tell you this part of story. But I think you should have the right to know this important, yet omitted part.
Selfish has nothing to do with it. It is the Chinese CEO's, factories, and government that are the ones being selfish to endanger children for the sake of $$$.

-S

PS. This is like me saying that - "I had to sicken and kill this child because I needed to make more profit". Sorry - I don't buy that.

[tycho102]

Selfish has nothing to do with it. It is the Chinese CEO's, factories, and government that are the ones being selfish to endanger children for the sake of $$$.
This is the same accusation against the "robber barons", but if you talk to an investment banker, they believe it's a misnomer.

Subman, China is in the eqivalent of our 1890's. It is a direct correlation to the issues they are now facing, coupled with specific technological issues of the 21st century. I seem to remember coal strikes and machine-guns used to break the unions. Nikola Tesla consigned to obscurity, Manifest Destiny, and social isolationism. It's libel to take a war and they're headed for one.

edit-- Also, short skirts. Lots and lots of short skirts. Hot Hunan province girls in short skirts.

[SUBMAN1]

This is the same accusation against the "robber barons", but if you talk to an investment banker, they believe it's a misnomer.

Subman, China is in the eqivalent of our 1890's. It is a direct correlation to the issues they are now facing, coupled with specific technological issues of the 21st century. I seem to remember coal strikes and machine-guns used to break the unions. Nikola Tesla consigned to obscurity, Manifest Destiny, and social isolationism. It's libel to take a war and they're headed for one.

edit-- Also, short skirts. Lots and lots of short skirts. Hot Hunan province girls in short skirts.
I don't find it the same at all. Much different scenario - this is a job being taken with the intent to use low grade sub parts in order to beat the competition, knowing full well the possible harms these parts can have. This is also intent, knowing full well the consequences. Hence the suicide - this guy commited suicide because he knew the extent that this would go to. Mattel with their latest recall shows he knew this went much deeper. The government would have done the deed for this man if he didn't take his own life.

The Robber Barons are guilty of working their workers to the bone. Only that similarity exists here. What I am talking about is the end product. This is where the similarity ends.

Also, your strikes were broken by the US Gov. Not by the Barons.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Canadians take on Chinese made products - attitudes seem to be changing!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070816.wltoys19/BNStory/lifeMain/home

-S