Isn't two engines enough?

[vodkamike]

This just happened, I was caught off guard by an aerial attack which gave me a real pounding. Two out of my four diesel engines were destroyed beyond repair. This left me drifting dead in the water, unable to return to base.

The only thing I could do was to dive and use the electric engines until the batteries ran out of juice.

Now to my question:

Should not two engines be enough to either charge the batteries or to propell the boat?

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/vodkamike73/Engine-damage.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

In theory and practice, yes. In this game, apparently not from what you experienced here. Such a shame if this is the case. In all reality one diesel is enough. Question, did the electric motors get destroyed as well? These are what actually drives the props.

[vodkamike]

Question, did the electric motors get destroyed as well? These are what actually drives the props.
No.

Well, they were damaged but the guys on damage control managed to repair them. It's funny they could not do anything about the diesels though. Maybe they didn't have the right training. :)

It's a good thing I save often, when things like this happen.

[Torpex752]

This is the case in SH4...aparently the 4 images are simply eyecandy but in reality they are linked so if you lose one stbd engine you lose all stbd engines. :eek:

You are correct in thinking that you should be able to RTB on 1 or 2 of 4 engines. Sadly the game wont let you because it was not modeled in a historically accurate manner. :(

[Prientje]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???

[mookiemookie]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???

Why do you insist on spamming darn near the exact same boilerplate message in nearly every thread? You're not really adding anything to the discussion.

[vodkamike]

This is the case in SH4...aparently the 4 images are simply eyecandy but in reality they are linked so if you lose one stbd engine you lose all stbd engines. :eek:

You are correct in thinking that you should be able to RTB on 1 or 2 of 4 engines. Sadly the game wont let you because it was not modeled in a historically accurate manner. :(
And is there a workaround, like MODwise, to make this work historically correct?

[Prientje]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???

Why do you insist on spamming darn near the exact same boilerplate message in nearly every thread? You're not really adding anything to the discussion.


What shall i add to discussion about such a engine damage bug....??

its absolutly clear... me and many others confirm this bug...

is it not enough...?

Its one from many big bugs to patch, thats all...!

Thererfore Patch 1.4...

[vodkamike]

at least that's my opinion.

It's all up to the modders now, who are doing a damned good job, I think.....


:yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???

Three times a charm........I have been over this with you on other threads with basically verbatim posts by you. Please bring you issues to UBI and the UBI customer service folks. Please read your PM.

[pythos]

Based on a suggestion from other skippers here I tried to circumvent the one engine damaged all engines dead syndrom of this sim. I increased the hitpoint for the diesles to 4 times the currentl amount, and likewise for the electric motors. I did twice the amount increase for the propellers and shafts.

I was in a sugar boat and got deph charged quite badly and took damage to my electrics, when I heard the report that the motors were damaged I was ready to see the speed drop to zero, and the hum of the motors to stop. Well the hum of the motors did stop, and my speed began to drop from 5kts, to 3kts, but stopped dropping after that. When I got a chance I checked the damage screen and saw that one motor was shown as destroyed, but the other had no damage. My boat was not knocked out, and actually made it back to base after evading the destroyer.

It would seem the number of engines taken out is based on a cumilative formula. Perhaps this is how it works for the electrics of a S boat.

Health points of electrics = 4000
damage inflicted = 100hp = both motors operational, one not so well.
damage inflicted = 2000hp = one motor destroyed, the other perking along
Damage inflicted = 3000hp = one destroyed, the other not at all well.
damage inflicted = 4000hp = both motors FUBAR, boat dead in the water.

I think this is how my change has effected the game, thus giving you pseudo multiengine.

Can others confirm this?

[AVGWarhawk]

Based on a suggestion from other skippers here I tried to circumvent the one engine damaged all engines dead syndrom of this sim. I increased the hitpoint for the diesles to 4 times the currentl amount, and likewise for the electric motors. I did twice the amount increase for the propellers and shafts.

I was in a sugar boat and got deph charged quite badly and took damage to my electrics, when I heard the report that the motors were damaged I was ready to see the speed drop to zero, and the hum of the motors to stop. Well the hum of the motors did stop, and my speed began to drop from 5kts, to 3kts, but stopped dropping after that. When I got a chance I checked the damage screen and saw that one motor was shown as destroyed, but the other had no damage. My boat was not knocked out, and actually made it back to base after evading the destroyer.

It would seem the number of engines taken out is based on a cumilative formula. Perhaps this is how it works for the electrics of a S boat.

Health points of electrics = 4000
damage inflicted = 100hp = both motors operational, one not so well.
damage inflicted = 2000hp = one motor destroyed, the other perking along
Damage inflicted = 3000hp = one destroyed, the other not at all well.
damage inflicted = 4000hp = both motors FUBAR, boat dead in the water.

I think this is how my change has effected the game, thus giving you pseudo multiengine.

Can others confirm this?

This is interesting. How much testing have you done? Might want to start a TEC thread over in the mods forum:hmm: :yep: This could be interesting and possibly a work around!

[Prientje]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???

Three times a charm........I have been over this with you on other threads with basically verbatim posts by you. Please bring you issues to UBI and the UBI customer service folks. Please read your PM.

i have no pm from you...
maybe i delete the pm with the spamfilter...


btw: you told me here is no Censorship ...

but what you are doing is Censorship...

have you a problem with uncomfortable Opinions....???

[LukeFF]

btw: you told me here is no Censorship ...

but what you are doing is Censorship...

have you a problem with uncomfortable Opinions....???

He's tired of you beating the same pessimistic drum over and over and over again...

[AVGWarhawk]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???

Three times a charm........I have been over this with you on other threads with basically verbatim posts by you. Please bring you issues to UBI and the UBI customer service folks. Please read your PM.

i have no pm from you...
maybe i delete the pm with the spamfilter...


btw: you told me here is no Censorship ...

but what you are doing is Censorship...

have you a problem with uncomfortable Opinions....???



There is no censorship. No post of yours deleted or altered. Repeated rants in every post become annoying. The OP asked a simple question. For some reason you feel hiding behind the censorship plea will save your bacon and ranting on UBI is just fine. Unfortunate you have raised some concerns from other community members within this thread. Everyone on this forum is bright and they do digest what is posted. The repeated same offering by you has been digested enough. Therefore, it is time to act. This is not your personal stomping grounds to irrate other members and simply turn off your computer with some sort of self gratification. Now we have yet another thread that has gone off on a tangent and another hiding behind the big 'C' word. There are rules and regulations we all abide by here. State your case and be done with it. Your posts are like a billboard I pass everyday going to work. It is the same over and over. It gets tiresome. If you feel there is too much censorship here or perceived censorship, there is a plethora of other forums you can join. I encourage you to do so.

[Gh3ngis]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???
Three times a charm........I have been over this with you on other threads with basically verbatim posts by you. Please bring you issues to UBI and the UBI customer service folks. Please read your PM.
i have no pm from you...
maybe i delete the pm with the spamfilter...


btw: you told me here is no Censorship ...

but what you are doing is Censorship...

have you a problem with uncomfortable Opinions....???


There is no censorship. No post of yours deleted or altered. Repeated rants in every post become annoying. The OP asked a simple question. For some reason you feel hiding behind the censorship plea will save your bacon and ranting on UBI is just fine. Unfortunate you have raised some concerns from other community members within this thread. Everyone on this forum is bright and they do digest what is posted. The repeated same offering by you has been digested enough. Therefore, it is time to act. This is not your personal stomping grounds to irrate other members and simply turn off your computer with some sort of self gratification. Now we have yet another thread that has gone off on a tangent and another hiding behind the big 'C' word. There are rules and regulations we all abide by here. State your case and be done with it. Your posts are like a billboard I pass everyday going to work. It is the same over and over. It gets tiresome. If you feel there is too much censorship here or perceived censorship, there is a plethora of other forums you can join. I encourage you to do so.


:up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up: My sentiments exactly.

[SteamWake]

Would the nay sayers and there alter egos kindly refrain from their pissing contest and let the others try to make progress to address the 'problem'.

It is absurd that if one or more engines were operable you could not make headway.

I hope your research eventually leads to a work around.

[Rockin Robbins]

confirming this bug....and many others...


sure, 2 engines are enough...

one engine would be enough too...


This, and much more big bugs let me cry for Patch 1.4...!!

And NO !

you will not hear and i will not wrote "Thank YOU BLA BLA BLA for Patch 1.3" from me...

FIX the big bugs and you can ask me for a Thank you !

Patch 1.3 was not enough to fix the big bugs...


Therefore...

Where is Patch 1.4 ???
Why do you insist on spamming darn near the exact same boilerplate message in nearly every thread? You're not really adding anything to the discussion.

What shall i add to discussion about such a engine damage bug....??

its absolutly clear... me and many others confirm this bug...

is it not enough...?

Its one from many big bugs to patch, thats all...!

Thererfore Patch 1.4...

Instead of wasting electrons and photons, just use "SOS" for every message from now on. Think of the wear and tear on your keyboard! By the way, each of us has many bugs, unfixed from time of birth. Should we wait to start living until we are perfect? Think about it.

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

have you a problem with uncomfortable Opinions....???

Naw pal, just bawbags.