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Ducimus
08-10-07, 05:18 PM
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**** it, so much for trying to foster community spirit.
Nice job in .mis files.:huh:
Ducimus
08-10-07, 06:11 PM
Old pictures. I coudlnt think of a better way to kick off an Dinsdale thread though. :lol:
Is this a similar case as the Cort Marshal pending thread?
Was he drunk also?
...the boys found the medicinal alcohol located in the Skippers bunk for, well, medicinal needs for the injured....
If thats the case, give the guy some slack, and Capt. find another place to stash the "medicinal alcohol" I think the the crew know where to find it by now.
Torpex752
08-11-07, 07:56 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl: With the way the crew looks so scary when it's rigged for red we could start a whole thread on "Dinsdales Demons" LOL
I will let Sailor Steve say something about this when he gets back from the bar. :roll:
Rockin Robbins
08-11-07, 10:04 AM
This is why the USN quit recruiting surfers after October 12, 1942. Afterwards, Dinsdale blamed the skeg on the "surfbord" for being too small and not allowing him to cut right off the wave before he reached shore. Ensign Dinsdale was the first and last submarine surfer. After the war he professed to have served as a consultant for Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys, claiming partial credit for "Surfin' Safari," only his working title was "Surfin' Tsunami." If true, thank God saner heads prevailed.
Sailor Steve
08-11-07, 10:53 AM
I will let Sailor Steve say something about this when he gets back from the bar. :roll:
You dang betcha! And Steed should know: Dinsdale is British. There is no "Ensign Dinsdale" in the U.S. Navy.
Ducimus
08-11-07, 12:22 PM
Bah, America's a melting pot. There's brits, and every other nationality, everywhere. Theres a Dinsdale in there somewhere! Really the whole point of this thread was to try and interject some life into the SH4 version of "Bernard". Oh and just FYI, you'll meet Ensign Dinsdale in Tm1.5 :lol:
Greentimbers
08-11-07, 02:17 PM
Yes you will, I met him in his rustbucket with a meatball, sank him and then avoided him to complete my new construction trials :cool:
His reply to this was :You Ba*****":up:
Thanks Ducimus and everyone else who contributed to TM 1.5, it makes SHIV fantastic.:rock:
Sailor Steve
08-11-07, 04:22 PM
Bah, America's a melting pot. There's brits, and every other nationality, everywhere. Theres a Dinsdale in there somewhere! Really the whole point of this thread was to try and interject some life into the SH4 version of "Bernard". Oh and just FYI, you'll meet Ensign Dinsdale in Tm1.5 :lol:
A large number of us expressed a preference for Ensign Parker (borrowed from McHale's Navy) some time ago. At least he acted like a true screw-up.
And if your last sentence is true, I won't be buying TM...
oh, wait...
Ducimus
08-11-07, 04:24 PM
Meh, at this point, i give up. Primarly because the whole comic character, seems like it will never take off in this forum, regardless of what name is used. so.. screw it, forget i said anything.
and seriously, arguing nationality of a name in the US? PLEEAAASEEEE.
Rockin Robbins
08-11-07, 04:58 PM
Yes, take a nice British name and pretend that no Brits EVER came to the US. We're going to have to rewrite a lot of history to cover that assumption, but if the Russkies can use footage from the American Titanic movie of 1997 to claim the Arctic regions, I guess we can get to eliminating any British influence on the United States. Might have to hire Dinsdale to get the job done though. :lol:
Sorry Duci, I thought you did something really good in this thread. I was having fun. Anyway I proved Dinsdale was a Californian surfer so the jig is up for the Brits.
Sailor Steve
08-11-07, 05:22 PM
I joke about nationalities, but my real objection is the concept that Dinsdale was never a screw-up in any country. Steed has shown his true origins several times, and it just doesn't work for me. So :p
Well damn!
Sorry I missed this earlier. :cry:
Back during the war the army use to show video of Pvt Snafu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Snafu
Ducimus
08-11-07, 08:39 PM
I joke about nationalities, but my real objection is the concept that Dinsdale was never a screw-up in any country. Steed has shown his true origins several times, and it just doesn't work for me. So :p
My wonder is now .. why does it have to work for YOU? Why does your opinion hold so much weight, that others are expected to follow suite? What makes your opinion better then others? I think Dinsdale should be used, just out of spite.
SteamWake
08-11-07, 08:55 PM
Meh, at this point, i give up. Primarly because the whole comic character, seems like it will never take off in this forum, regardless of what name is used. so.. screw it, forget i said anything.
and seriously, arguing nationality of a name in the US? PLEEAAASEEEE.
Shaking head :shifty:
weeping :oops:
sad indeed...
Rockin Robbins
08-11-07, 09:06 PM
Now that Sailor Steve has so unconditionally endorsed it, OF COURSE his name must be Ensign Dinsdale and he must be such a screwup that he makes Ensign Parker look like Admiral Nimitz. Onward through the fog! All ahead emergency!
Note: genetic tests confirmed today that Ensign Dinsdale is Icelandic. He has no British blood in him whatever.
Rockin Robbins
08-11-07, 09:17 PM
I joke about nationalities, but my real objection is the concept that Dinsdale was never a screw-up in any country. Steed has shown his true origins several times, and it just doesn't work for me. So :p
Obviously your Dinsdale and Duci's Dinsdale are not related in any way. You can prove whatever you want about YOUR Dinsdale and Duci remains utterly unaffected. Your Dinsdale may be a brain surgeon but Duci's landed a sub in the middle of the base at Pearl. Face it, he's a bit of a screw-up!:lol:
Duci's Dinsdale may be in a spot of trouble, but YOUR Dinsdale has never been a screw-up in any country. Your Dinsdale, however will be forgotten next week and Duci's will continue to delight thousands who use his mod. Sometimes being a screw-up is a wonderful thing. Lighten up and get a life.
Torpex752
08-12-07, 08:04 AM
Firstly, I never heard of the guy, and secondly, who cares what his name is! FFS...it was a thread started for fun and I thought it was a great idea. :up: This is what I hate about the internet....there is a time where there's too much information, and too much information can take all the fun out of life. Just my 2 cents worth.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-07, 08:12 AM
Good Lord, there is a semi warm discussion about this? Why not just call him what you like? Gilligan comes to mind.
Mates,the point is someone,somewhere,is having a bad hair day,or their head up there ass. /drunk episode. So if you can't say something positive,it will in hind site bite youself in the ass later. NO one wants to hear it,& I'am guilty also,but not from intent normaly.SNAFU
Sailor Steve
08-12-07, 02:13 PM
I joke about nationalities, but my real objection is the concept that Dinsdale was never a screw-up in any country. Steed has shown his true origins several times, and it just doesn't work for me. So :p
My wonder is now .. why does it have to work for YOU? Why does your opinion hold so much weight, that others are expected to follow suite? What makes your opinion better then others? I think Dinsdale should be used, just out of spite.
Who said my opinion should hold any weight? It's just my opinion. On the other hand, would you prefer I didn't express it?
TheSatyr
08-12-07, 09:38 PM
Let it slide Steve...it's just European payback for SH4 being a Pacific Sub game. Americans aren't allowed to name our own screwup apparently.
Fearless
08-12-07, 09:51 PM
Do I have to salute this Dinsdale guy :lol:
Torpex752
08-12-07, 10:03 PM
Do I have to salute this Dinsdale guy :lol:
Naw, just pull his hat down over his head. :lol: I do believe he is completely responsible for my Damage control party never getting anything fixed as it should. ;) Heck he probably is my Damage Party. :doh:
Ducimus
08-12-07, 10:43 PM
Let it slide Steve...it's just European payback for SH4 being a Pacific Sub game. Americans aren't allowed to name our own screwup apparently.
Oh, so now im a European?
Nah, ill say why Steve has just done royally pissed me off.
1.) The name itself, Big F'ing deal! How many "ensign Dinsdale" referencs have you seen as compared to "ensign parker"? Maybe one, compartivly, if your lucky. The name "Dinsdale " was in use long before someone decided they wanted "Parker"
2.) Oh so Dinsdale isnt an AMERICAN name huh? You know ive spent 7 years TIS and ive seen all sorts of names. Ive seen "McCleoud" in no relation to "Conner", I've even seen a guy named "Slick". No joke. So tell me exactly what an American name should sound like? Huh? You know what my last name is? Lee, in no relation to Bruce, or Robert E. Go ahead, tell me my name is unamerican, i dare you.
3.) In a way, you Steve, pissed on my work. You know how long it took to script 3 freaking missions? Way too long. If you don't like a name thats used, script your own damn missions, oh wait, i forgot, Steve isn't acutally playing SH4, last i heard.
4.) The orginal intent behind the Use of "Ensign Dinsdale" in the mod, and starting a thread about same fictious character, was to give the SH4 community a mascot... or rather, to try and reviatalize it. A simple mascot, is the stuff that is catalyist to a healthy community. A healthy community, with some decent mods, attracts players. So i thought, maybe we some good strong mod packs, and a community that is thriving, we could attract more players or get some folks to come back and check out Sh4. You have underminded that effort with your lack of being able to go along with a simple gag, coupled with your own, dare i say ignorant, opinion.
Pfft your all wrong.
Dinsdale is an Aussie name, I know coz I went to school with him.
:p
Now for something completely differant.
http://images.hunsa.com/funny/MOJO%20Pic%20funny/bush-sandwich.jpg
Now for something completely different.
http://images.hunsa.com/funny/MOJO%20Pic%20funny/bush-sandwich.jpgLooks like he got his foreskin caught in his zipper:rotfl: .
AVGWarhawk
08-13-07, 09:01 AM
All right men, it really is not worth all of this. Pick a name a be happy. Bernard was a great equilizer for mistakes. Find your Bernard for the US submarines.
AVGWarhawk
08-13-07, 09:06 AM
Here is a nice link and variations on Dinsdale.
http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/dinsdale-family-crest.htm
Personally, I like the variation of Dinsdale located here. It is spelled Dimsdale. Being that the word 'dim' is usually associated with someone who is not very bright....you can take it from here. Ensign Dimsdale. Now that sounds like someone who makes blunders.
I will let Sailor Steve say something about this when he gets back from the bar. :roll:
You dang betcha! And Steed should know: Dinsdale is British. There is no "Ensign Dinsdale" in the U.S. Navy.
Steve has spoken be warned. :stare:
Have a cold beer on me Steve. :up:
Right you lot here is the Dinsdale Stetch from Monty Pythons Flying Circus
Introduction sort of music with Caption 'ETHEL THE FROG' Cut to Presenter sitting behind desk)
Presenter: Good evening. On 'Ethel the Frog' tonight we look at violence The violence of British Gangland. Last Tuesday a reign of terror was ended when the notorious Piranha brothers, Doug and Dinsdale, after one of the most extraordinary trials in British legal history, were sentenced to 400 years imprisonment for crimes of violence. We examined the rise to power of the Piranhas, the methods they used to subjugate rival gangs and their subsequent tracking down and capture by the brilliant Superintendent Harry 'Snapper' Organs of Q Division. Doug and Dinsdale Piranha were born, on probation, in a small house in Kipling Road, Southwark, the eldest sons in a family of sixteen. Their father Arthur Piranha, a scrap metal dealer and TV quizmaster, was well known to the police, and a devout Catholic. In 1928 he had married Kitty Malone, an up-and-coming East End boxer. Doug was born in February 1929 and Dinsdale two weeks later; and again a week after that. Someone who remembers them well was their next door neighbour, Mrs April Simnel.
Mrs Simmel: Oh yes Kipling Road was a typical East End Street, people were in and out of each other's houses with each other's property all day. They were a cheery lot.
Interviewer: Was it a terribly violent area
Mrs Simmel: Oh no......yes. Cheerful and violent. I remember Doug was keen on boxing, but when he learned to walk he took up putting the boot in the groin. He was very interested in that. His mother had a terrible job getting him to come in for tea. Putting his little boot in he'd be, bless him. All the kids were like that then, they didn't have their heads stuffed with all this Cartesian dualism.
Presenter: At the age of fifteen Doug and Dinsdale started attending the Ernest Pythagoras Primary School in Clerkenwell. When the Piranhas left school they were called up but were found by an Army Board to be too unstable even for National Service. Denied the opportunity to use their talents in the service of their country, they began to operate what they called 'The Operation'... They would select a victim and then threaten to beat him up if he paid the so-called protection money. Four months later they started another operation which the called 'The Other Operation'. In this racket they selected another victim and threatened not to beat him up if he didn't pay them. One month later they hit upon 'The Other Other Operation'. In this the victim was threatened that if he didn't pay them, they would beat him up. This for the Piranha brothers was the turning point.
(Cut to Superintendent Organs - Subtitle: Harry "Snapper" Organs)
Organs: Doug and Dinsdale Piranha now formed a gang, which the called 'The Gang' and used terror to take over night clubs, billiard halls, gaming casinos and race tracks. When they tried to take over the MCC they were for the only time in their lives, slit up a treat. As their empire spread however, Q Division were keeping tabs on their every move by reading the colour supplements.
Presenter: One small-time operator who fell foul of Dinsdale Piranha was Vince Snetterton-Lewis.
Vince: "Well one day I was at home threatening the kids when I looks out through the hole in the wall and sees this tank pull up and out gets one of Dinsdale's boys, so he comes in nice and friendly and says Dinsdale wants to have a word with me, so he chains me to the back of the tank and takes me for a scrape round to Dinsdale's place and Dinsdale's there in the conversation pit with Doug and Charles Paisley, the baby crusher, and two film producers and a man they called 'Kierkegaard', who just sat there biting the heads of whippets and Dinsdale says 'I hear you've been a naughty boy Clement' and he splits me nostrils open and saws me leg off and pulls me liver out and I tell him my name's not Clement and then... he loses his temper and nails me head to the floor."
Interviewer: He nailed your head to the floor?
Vince: At first yeah
Presenter: Another man who had his head nailed to the floor was Stig O' Tracy.
Interviewer: I've been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your head to the floor.
Stig: No. Never. He was a smashing bloke. He used to buy his mother flowers and that. He was like a brother to me.
Interviewer: But the police have film of Dinsdale actually nailing your head to the floor.
Stig: (pause) Oh yeah, he did that.
Interviewer: Why?
Stig: Well he had to, didn't he? I mean there was nothing else he could do, be fair. I had transgressed the unwritten law.
Interviewer: What had you done?
Stig: Er... well he didn't tell me that, but he gave me his word that it was the case, and that's good enough for me with old Dinsy. I mean, he didn't *want* to nail my head to the floor. I had to insist. He wanted to let me off. He'd do anything for you, Dinsdale would.
Interviewer: And you don't bear him a grudge?
Stig: A grudge! Old Dinsy. He was a real darling.
Interviewer: I understand he also nailed your wife's head to a coffee table. Isn't that true Mrs O' Tracy?
Mrs O' Tracy: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Stig: Well he did do that, yeah. He was a hard man. Vicious but fair
(Cut back to vince)
Interviewer: Vince, after he nailed your head to the floor, did you ever see him again
Vince: Yeah.....after that I used to go round his flat every Sunday lunchtime to apologise and we'd shake hands and then he'd nail my head to the floor
Interviewer: Every Sunday?
Vince: Yeah but he was very reasonable. Once, one Sunday I told him my parents were coming round to tea and would he mind very much not nailing my head that week and he agreed and just screwed my pelvis to a cake stand.
Presenter:Clearly Dinsdale inspired tremendous fear among his business associates. But what was he really like?
Gloria:I walked out with Dinsdale on many occasions and found him a charming and erudite companion. He was wont to introduce one to eminent celebrities, celebrated American singers, members of the aristocracy and other gang leaders,
Interviewer (off screen): How had he met them?
Gloria:Through his work for charities. He took a warm interest in Boys' Clubs, Sailors' Homes, Choristers' Associations and the Grenadier Guards.
Interviewer:Was there anything unusual about him?
Gloria:t him. I should say not. Except, that Dinsdale was convinced that he was being watched by a giant hedgehog whom he referred to as 'Spiny Norman'.
Interviewer: How big was Norman supposed to be?
Gloria:Normally Spiny Norman was wont to be about twelve feet from snout to tail, but when Dinsdale was depressed Norman could be anything up to eight hundred yards long. When Norman was about Dinsdale would go very quiet and start wobbling and his nose would swell up and his teeth would move about and he'd get very violent and claim that he'd laid Stanley Baldwin."
Interviewer: "Did it worry you that he, for example, stitched people's legs together?"
Gloria: "Well it's better than bottling it up isn't it. He was a gentleman, Dinsdale, and what's more he knew how to treat a female impersonator."
Presenter:But what do the criminologists think? We asked The Amazing Kargol and Janet:
Ciminologist:It is easy for us to judge Dinsdale Piranha too harshly. After all he only did what many of us simply dream of doing... I'm sorry. After all we should remember that a murderer is only an extroverted suicide. Dinsdale was a looney, but he was a happy looney. Lucky bugger."
Presenter:Most of the strange tales concern Dinsdale, but what about Doug? One man who met him was Luigi Vercotti.
Vercotti: I had been running a successful escort agency -- high class, no really, high class girls -- we didn't have any of *that* -- that was right out. And I decided (phone rings) Excuse me (he answers phone) Hello......no, not now......shtoom...shtoom....right......yes, we'll have the watch ready for you at midnight.......the watch.....the Chinese watch....yes, right-oh, bye-bye.....mother (he hangs up phone) Anyway I decided to open a high class night club for the gentry at Biggleswade withInternational cuisine and cooking and top line acts, and not a cheap clip joint for picking up tarts -- that was right out, I deny that completely --, and one evening in walks Dinsdale with a couple of big lads, one of whom was carrying a tactical nuclear missile. They said I had bought one of their fruit machines and would I pay for it
2nd Interviewer: How much did they want?
Vercotti: They wanted three quarters of a million pounds.
2nd Interviewer: Why didn't you call the police?
Vercotti: Well I had noticed that the lad with the thermonuclear device was the chief constable for the area. So a week later they called again and told me the cheque had bounced and said... I had to see... Doug.
2nd Interviewer: Doug?
Vercotti: Doug (takes a drink) Well, I was terrified. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I've seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.
2nd Interviewer: What did he do?
Vercotti: He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious.
Presenter:By a combination of violence and sarcasm, the Piranha brothers by February 1966 controlled London and the Southeast of England. It was in February, though, that Dinsdale made a big mistake.
Gloria:Latterly Dinsdale had become increasingly worried about Spiny Norman. He had come to the conclusion that Norman slept in an aeroplane hangar at Luton Airport.
Presenter:And so on Feb 22nd 1966, Dinsdale blew up Luton. (shot of a H-Bomb exploding) Even the police began to sit up and take notice.
(Cut back to 'Harry Snapper' Organs)
Organs: The Piranhas realised they had gone too far and that the hunt was on. They went into hiding. I decided on a subtle approach, viz. some form of disguise, as the old helmet and boots are a bit of a giveaway. Luckily my years with Bristol Rep. stood me in good stead, as I assumed a bewildering variety of disguises. I tracked them to Cardiff, posing as the Reverend Smiler Egret. Hearing they'd gone back to London, I assumed the identity of a pork butcher, Brian Stoats. On my arrival in London, I discovered they had returned to Cardiff, I followed as Gloucester from _King Lear_. Acting on a hunch I spent several months in Buenos Aires as Blind Pew, returning through the Panama Canal as Ratty, in _Toad of Toad Hall_. Back in Cardiff, I relived my triumph as Sancho Panza in _Man of la Mancha_ which the "Bristol Evening Post" described as 'a glittering performance of rare perception', although the "Bath Chronicle" was less than enthusiastic. In fact it gave me a right panning. I quote
Voice Over: As for the performance of Superintendent Harry "Snapper" Organs as Sancho Panza, the audience were bemused by his high-pitched Welsh accent and intimidated by his abusive ad-libs.
Organs (off screen):The "Western Daily News" said......
Voice over (John Cleese): 'Sancho Panza (Mr Organs) spoilt an otherwise impeccably choreographed rape scene by his unscheduled appearance and persistent cries of "What's all this then?"'
***************** TV Series version continues as follows *******************
(Cut to back stage dressing room where Harry 'Snapper' Organs and a Policeman are doing their makeup in front of mirrors)
Policeman: Never mind Snapper love you can't win 'em all
Organs: True constable. Could I have my eye-liner please?
2nd Policeman: Telegram for you love
Organs: Good-oh Bet it's from Binkie
2nd Policeman: Those flowers are for Sergant Lauderdale - from the gentleman waiting outside
Organs: Oh good
(There is a knock at the door. A man pokes his head in)
Man: Thirty second superintendent
Organs: Oh blimey, I'm on. Is me hat on straight constable
Policeman: Oh it's fine
Organs: Right here we gone then Hawkins
Policeman : Oh, merde superintendent
Organs:Good luck then
(Cut to exterior of Police Station. 'Sanpper' and Polieman walk down stairs and then along pavement. Mr Teabag - Minister of Silly Walks - walks by. Cut to a Newspaper seller)
Nwespaper Seller: Read all about it Pirhana brothers escape
(Cut to suburban street, with people clearing the streets very fast. Cut to a picture of an empty street. A very large hedgehog peers over the houses looking for Dinsdale)
Hedgehog: Dinsdale? Dinsdale? Dinsdale?
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/163/clipimage002ax0.jpg
AVGWarhawk
08-13-07, 09:50 AM
Just a suggestion and believe this was done before the game hit the market, select 4-5 names and create a poll thread.
Should this be an American name:Alexander Vraciu?
This: Cornelius N. Nooy?
How about this name: Frederick E. Bakutis?
Stanley W. Vejtasa?
All F6F aces of the USN.
tater
Rockin Robbins
08-13-07, 10:26 AM
The author of a work retains all rights to name his characters. As such it does not matter that I like the name Dinsdale, or that ignorant people have found a reason not to like it. Monty Python be damned (as good as they are), their Dinsdale has nothing to do with any real Dinsdale or any other fictional Dinsdale whether they existed from the beginning of time to the end of the Earth.
Authorship is not a democracy. Anyone who thinks they can make a better supermod than Ducimus, knock yourself out. You have complete right to name your characters as you wish. But as for Dinsdale, there is one person in the universe with the right to name his character: Ducimus. With all due respect, any votes or name beauty contests (unless it were Ducimus' original idea. Even consent couldn't be deemed voluntary at this point) would be an insult to Ducimus' work. I cannot believe nobody seems to be able to understand this point. Of course I realize that Steed and company are merely trolling, itself an affront to decency which should be against the rules of this or any other forum.
If you object to the name, you have the right not to use the best mod package in SH4. I understand Ducimus' paycheck won't suffer a bit.
Winners do. Losers complain. Easy to separate the two here, isn't it?:rock:
Sailor Steve
08-13-07, 11:12 AM
Nah, ill say why Steve has just done royally pissed me off.
1.) The name itself, Big F'ing deal! How many "ensign Dinsdale" referencs have you seen as compared to "ensign parker"? Maybe one, compartivly, if your lucky. The name "Dinsdale " was in use long before someone decided they wanted "Parker"
I don't think that's true; there were discussions on what people wanted long ago, and both were mentioned, along with others.
2.) Oh so Dinsdale isnt an AMERICAN name huh? You know ive spent 7 years TIS and ive seen all sorts of names. Ive seen "McCleoud" in no relation to "Conner", I've even seen a guy named "Slick". No joke. So tell me exactly what an American name should sound like? Huh? You know what my last name is? Lee, in no relation to Bruce, or Robert E. Go ahead, tell me my name is unamerican, i dare you.
You're right about actual names, but the reference is to a specific character, who definitely is British. Not that it matters; you're right about that too.
3.) In a way, you Steve, pissed on my work. You know how long it took to script 3 freaking missions? Way too long. If you don't like a name thats used, script your own damn missions, oh wait, i forgot, Steve isn't acutally playing SH4, last i heard.
I'm sorry, I didn't even realize that this was about missions; I just thought it was about names. You're right again: I still can't play SH4. I guess you're right one more time: I'm not allowed to have an opinion...and that's all it is.
You have underminded that effort with your lack of being able to go along with a simple gag, coupled with your own, dare i say ignorant, opinion.
Okay, so now my *opinion* has destroyed the community and ruined the game for everybody.
I apologize for speaking, thinking and breathing. The end.
Of course I realize that Steed and company are merely trolling, itself an affront to decency which should be against the rules of this or any other forum.
Hey I posted the Dinsdale sketch to show you all.
1. Dinsdale is British
2. Dinsdale is a gangster
Stop stealing from us Brits and get yourselves an American one. :p
So he has to pick a name never used as a character name by anyone who wasn't american?
;)
Rockin Robbins
08-13-07, 02:50 PM
So he has to pick a name never used as a character name by anyone who wasn't american?
;)
No, congress should take away his copyright for TM and give it to someone more British. ;)
And there already must be a law permitting only one Dinsdale. I'm sure Monty Python made up the name and that there are no real Dinsdales anywhere, or any fictional ones either predating or antedating the Monty Python creation. Why, Monty Python was so freakin' ingenious that they exclusively used original words, never before written or spoken, refusing to use common language for their skits. Steed's argument is utterly specious and irrelevent to the matter at hand, or any matter whatever. See my previous post on the rights of authorship. That is the only relevent point in this discussion. Everything else is "sound and fury, signifying nothing." Wow! That's British, isn't it?
Steed's argument is utterly specious and irrelevent to the matter at hand
Really, what about your over the top case? :p :rotfl:
Rockin Robbins
08-14-07, 10:41 AM
Steed's argument is utterly specious and irrelevent to the matter at hand
Really, what about your over the top case? :p :rotfl:
If post #36, a succinct, precise shot to the middle of the forehead with an irrefutable and true argument is over the top, so be it. You cannot refute the truth, so you play with your fallacious ploy because you are wrong. End of discussion, as you have nothing to contribute but trolls.
AVGWarhawk
08-14-07, 10:45 AM
Hmmmm....do I see a large lock coming?:hmm:
Rockin Robbins
08-14-07, 10:53 AM
Stop stealing from us Brits and get yourselves an American one. :p
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl::rotfl:
What a great straight line! I can't resist. (sorry) We stole the whole damn country from you Brits. We'll do as we please!;)
http://www.downbelow.net/sh4/barney.jpg
I've got one bullet and I'm not afraid to use it!
AkbarGulag
08-14-07, 11:18 AM
You know, I really have nfi idea what the point of this thread was... and I realise it is probably a little wrong, but I find the argument hillarious. Considering I never saw the first post, you can imagine how funny this all looks. Anyway, heres what I found on the net.
Dinsdale,
Variations: Dimsdale, Dimsdales, Dinsdales, Dinsdayle, Dimsdayle, Dinsdaile.
First found in Durham where the were seated from very ancient times, some say before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066.
One of the first members of this family to settle in the U.S were Thomas Dinsdale who settled in Virginia 1638, Robert Dinsdale who settled in Pennsylvania in 1682 and william Dimsdale who settled in New England 1663.
It is common for people of english ancestry to have a family name from a certain area.. it was the area that determined their name. For example, members of my family left poverty and disease west of london in around 1550 and settled in Canada, they were from an area called Cos-something... there being a cosford, cogrove and other cos-somethings in the area they lived. So they took the name 'Cosford'.
To be honest, I would be surprised if the Dinsdales were called that in 1066, if it didn't come from church records, it was more than likely a family tall tale.
Rockin Robbins
08-14-07, 05:39 PM
... and I realise it is probably a little wrong, but I find the argument hillarious. Considering I never saw the first post, you can imagine how funny this all looks. Anyway, heres what I found on the net.
Dinsdale,
Variations: Dimsdale, Dimsdales, Dinsdales, Dinsdayle, Dimsdayle, Dinsdaile.
First found in Durham where the were seated from very ancient times, some say before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066.
One of the first members of this family to settle in the U.S were Thomas Dinsdale who settled in Virginia 1638, Robert Dinsdale who settled in Pennsylvania in 1682 and william Dimsdale who settled in New England 1663.
Thank you! First, it was initially meant to be funny by Ducimus, who named his character, a wacky incompetent sub jockey named Dinsdale, who somehow put his sub aground in the middle of Pearl Harbor base camp. Ducimus had two amazing pictures rendered with SH4 graphics engine of the whole sub high and dry in the middle of the base. There was a second picture of the event from the sub's bridge with dialog between Dinsdale and a crew member. Quite brilliant, I'd say.
Steed and company initially were trying to be funny in their peculiar way, but quickly transitioned into a personal attack on Ducimus' right to name his character as he pleased. Apparently there is an ancient Subsim thread where some speculated on an official wacky, incompetent Subsim mascot, sort of like a Gilligan or Deputy Barney Fife. Somehow this ancient lore is important enough to Steed and company to justify trashing Ducimus. Steed and company's entire logic is centered around Monty Python's sacred rights to the name Dinsdale. No other Dinsdale is allowed to exist because of their Godlike stature I guess. Archeologists are currently researching that one.
You have conclusively proved that the name Dinsdale predates Monty Python. You have conclusively proved the existence of American Dinsdales. I'd say this is a done deal.
Apologies will be accepted by me. I fight to win but bear no grudges. Ducimus will decide for himself if he wishes to accept any offered apologies.
Sailor Steve was a big enough man to apologize in post #37. I dont see how this benefits the community. Let it go already.
AkbarGulag
08-14-07, 11:05 PM
I dont see how this benefits the community. Let it go already.
My bad, I just wanted to know what it was all about. I thought it was all in jest but then wasn't so sure. Naturally I wanted to know more about this Dinsdale and how he came up... I dare say the legend is born, Ducimus has spawned a monster ^^ (pity I missed the pictures, I already feel like a cult groupy)
Steed and company to justify trashing Ducimus. Steed and company's entire logic is centered around Monty Python's sacred rights to the name Dinsdale.
I was pointing out the meaning of the Monty Python Dinsdale sketch only, I was also having a joke. :p
How dare you say I was trashing Ducimus.
I have nothing against Ducimus or any forum member.
I agree with AVGWarhawk, put a load of names in a poll and which ever name wins is the American version of Bernard, and if Dinsdale wins so be. :p
And if I upset anyone I or so apologize.
So much for a spot of fun, excuse me for living.
THE END
Mostinius
08-15-07, 04:38 AM
You know, I really have nfi idea what the point of this thread was... and I realise it is probably a little wrong, but I find the argument hillarious.I'm definitely with AkbarGulag on the first part here. This entire thread is completely incomprehensible. I think I understand roughly what's gone on, courtesy of Rockin Robbins' explanation just above, but even with that in mind I have no idea how so many people can get so wound up about a single character's name.
We're simmers. We all think attention to detail is important. But come on, lads and lasses: there are limits to rationality and, if you'll pardon my frankness, this argument has gone way past them.
Torpex752
08-15-07, 06:34 AM
You know, I really have nfi idea what the point of this thread was... and I realise it is probably a little wrong, but I find the argument hillarious.I'm definitely with AkbarGulag on the first part here. This entire thread is completely incomprehensible. I think I understand roughly what's gone on, courtesy of Rockin Robbins' explanation just above, but even with that in mind I have no idea how so many people can get so wound up about a single character's name.
We're simmers. We all think attention to detail is important. But come on, lads and lasses: there are limits to rationality and, if you'll pardon my frankness, this argument has gone way past them.
Ditto! :up:
AVGWarhawk
08-15-07, 08:01 AM
This is really getting interesting!
Ahhhh....thank you Rockin Robbin :)
I was wondering what this was all about.
Steve and Ducimus...please settle the rest of this is PMs :ping:
Rockin Robbins
08-15-07, 09:05 AM
We're simmers. We all think attention to detail is important. But come on, lads and lasses: there are limits to rationality and, if you'll pardon my frankness, this argument has gone way past them.
Yes, we're all simmers in need of redemption. Let's bury the hatchets and go kill something! I have dibs on that nice juicy tanker, Steve, take out the troop transport. Duci, is that your damned Bungo Pete coming in at 30 knots? Take him out. Steed, you have a bead on him too? Quick, everybody fire torpedoes and go deep! It's showtime!
SteamWake
08-15-07, 10:33 AM
This is really getting interesting!
Nah... Amusing at best.
Coolhand01
08-15-07, 03:56 PM
DISCLAIMER:The Characters in the following statement are a work of fiction. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead is purely coincidental and unintentional.
Adm. Nimitz: I'll be damned if Ens. Dinsdale hasn't screwed up another thread. If he doesn't snap to I'll personally tie him to a torpedoe on a straight course to Tokyo. He would be the worst thing we could do to the Jap navy.
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