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Konovalov
08-10-07, 10:40 AM
My first ever fight simulation experience was F19 Stealth Fighter by Microprose way back in 1989 on my Commodore Amiga computer. I came across this site today which brought back some of those old memories from the sim:http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm (http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm)

As it turned out F19 wasn't entirely accurate because little was known of what was the F117 Nighthawk. :oops: :oops: Anyway, I loved this sim and it had a great manual and maps. :yep:

Check out these gorgeous MFD's (http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/mfd.htm). :lol:

So what was your first ever flight sim? Come on, bring those memories flooding back. :D

Dowly
08-10-07, 11:50 AM
First 2 flightsims:
Dogfight (http://amigareviews.classicgaming.gamespy.com/dogfight.htm)
European Air War (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/europeanairwar/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;reviews) (Still one of the best flightsim I've played:rock:)

CCIP
08-10-07, 12:47 PM
I'm pretty sure mine was EF2000, when I was about 12 years old.

I got pretty good at shooting and flying under bridges. Never managed to land though - let's just say I had no idea about flight dynamics and thought flying into a runway at 300kt and a nose-down angle with your gear down was the right way. I was irritated :lol:

The first sim that I really mastered was Total Air War.

Camaero
08-10-07, 01:56 PM
Janes WWII Fighters! :rock:

Kratos
08-10-07, 02:23 PM
First one I tried was First Eagles The great war 1914-1918
http://www.first-eagles.com/

and i quickly moved on to Il2

fatty
08-10-07, 02:26 PM
Microsoft Flight Simulator 1 circa 1982

http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/pictures/Image7.gif

HunterICX
08-10-07, 03:28 PM
Pffff...
I was so young so I cant remember the names

but the first ones I played
one was with a ME262 2Dish where you had to intercept enemy bombers

then there was a WW1 flight sim,
Wings of Glory if I am correct.

and then there was some modern jet fighter game.

then came CFS1&2 which I completly turned inside out
after that I got the very first IL2 game...damn those days...just awesome

and now IL2 1946, and CFS3:up:

Biggles
08-10-07, 04:08 PM
Hm....well the 3 first simulator games for me:

Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance (space simulator, but still....)
Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator
Airfix Dogfighter (aaaah, the memories!:lol: )

Chock
08-10-07, 09:11 PM
As far as I recall, my first 'proper' one was SubLogic's Flight Simulator (i.e. before it was a Microsoft title). The earliest one I still actually have in my possession (with the box and everything) is I think a later incarnation of SubLogic's Flight Simulator, maybe version 3, not sure without digging it out of a cupboard. I do remember that it has a great manual, which is still pretty good in terms of correct procedures even today.

The original versions of flight simulator did have quite a few aeroplanes even then, such as the Sopwith Camel and a Cessna, but it was largely limited to flying around the San Francisco area. I also had an early SubLogic version of Flight Simulator for the Commodore Amiga too.

I do remember spending a lot of time with Ubisoft's Fighter Bomber on the Commodore 64, as you could bomb stuff in the F-111 and the Panavia Tornado, and it was one of the first half-decent fight sims with shaded vector graphics, but the first really decent combat ones with all the systems modeled properly would be the very first Falcon and Digital Integration's F-16 Combat Simulator (on the Commodore 64), DI's F-16 was also on the Amiga too. The WW1 sim Knights of the Sky was a good one on that as well.

The first really good combat flight sims for proper dogfighting with very good frame rates I had were: Hellcats (anyone remember that?) and Chuck Yeager's Combat Flight Simulator. I had both of those for the Apple Mac.

I've pretty much bought every flight sim there is over the years.

:D Chock

JScones
08-10-07, 09:15 PM
subLOGIC FS1 on the Apple ][, very early 1980's.

This was pre-Microsoft FS1, which came out a few years later.

Hehe - found some screenshots courtesy of Wikipedia...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Flight_Simulator_1.0_short_animation.thumb.gif

Aahhh, the memories.

Then on to Microsoft Flight Simulator 1...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/MS_Flight_Simulator_1.0_flying_over_Megan.png

Cutting edge graphics!

I had no joystick back then - played all by keyboard.

Then moved on to c64 games like Dambusters, Spitfire, Gunship, F15 SE, F15 SEII (basically any Microprose flightsim - I loved them all because they had ranks and medals), before getting my first PC titles Heroes of the 357th and B17 Flying Fortress for my top of the range 386DX40.

fatty
08-10-07, 10:06 PM
subLOGIC FS1 on the Apple ][, very early 1980's.

This was pre-Microsoft FS1, which came out a few years later.

Hehe - found some screenshots courtesy of Wikipedia...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Flight_Simulator_1.0_short_animation.thumb.gif

Aahhh, the memories.

Then on to Microsoft Flight Simulator 1...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/MS_Flight_Simulator_1.0_flying_over_Megan.png

Cutting edge graphics!

I had no joystick back then - played all by keyboard.

Then moved on to c64 games like Dambusters, Spitfire, Gunship, F15 SE, F15 SEII (basically any Microprose flightsim - I loved them all because they had ranks and medals), before getting my first PC titles Heroes of the 357th and B17 Flying Fortress for my top of the range 386DX40.

Damn, you win!

Dowly
08-11-07, 12:09 AM
but the first ones I played
one was with a ME262 2Dish where you had to intercept enemy bombers


Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe? Had it on my very first PC (some 486 crap :p).

http://www.goodolddays.net/0_0_0_0_1_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_en_0_233_shots_1__0_0_ _/

CaptainChunk
08-11-07, 12:29 AM
Aces over Europe, Aces of the Pacific and Red Baron. Best ones ever.

goldorak
08-11-07, 12:37 AM
My first ever fight simulation experience was F19 Stealth Fighter by Microprose way back in 1989 on my Commodore Amiga computer. I came across this site today which brought back some of those old memories from the sim:http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm (http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm)

As it turned out F19 wasn't entirely accurate because little was known of what was the F117 Nighthawk. :oops: :oops: Anyway, I loved this sim and it had a great manual and maps. :yep:

Check out these gorgeous MFD's (http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/mfd.htm). :lol:

So what was your first ever flight sim? Come on, bring those memories flooding back. :D

Wow that was my first flight sim also, but for the glorious pc.
I bought it maybe in 1988-1989.
And I played it in a gorgeous cga mode (4 colors :rotfl: ).
I still play it today from time to time, those libian and iranian missions are so much fun. :arrgh!: :|\\

HunterICX
08-11-07, 04:20 AM
but the first ones I played
one was with a ME262 2Dish where you had to intercept enemy bombers


Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe? Had it on my very first PC (some 486 crap :p).

http://www.goodolddays.net/0_0_0_0_1_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_en_0_233_shots_1__0_0_ _/

:hmm: well, from what I remember you could only take that ME262
and gosh I hated that plane...
well I hated the game actually :rotfl: ME262 moving so darn slow
and killing a plane was darn hard...
but it was fully drawn 2D game...no fancy first 3D effects
kinda pixel like a Plane getting bigger and bigger

also no Save feature, so when you got killed you could start over at Mission 1.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!

PeriscopeDepth
08-12-07, 01:14 PM
My first ever fight simulation experience was F19 Stealth Fighter by Microprose way back in 1989 on my Commodore Amiga computer. I came across this site today which brought back some of those old memories from the sim:http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm (http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/F19.htm)

As it turned out F19 wasn't entirely accurate because little was known of what was the F117 Nighthawk. :oops: :oops: Anyway, I loved this sim and it had a great manual and maps. :yep:

Check out these gorgeous MFD's (http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/F19/mfd.htm). :lol:

So what was your first ever flight sim? Come on, bring those memories flooding back. :D

Me too! Got into sims quite by accident. Came installed on a used PC my dad bought and just couldn't stop fiddling around with it until I figured out the keys.

PD

STEED
08-12-07, 04:11 PM
G-Lock and YF-22 on the Sega Mega Drive, my first one on PC goes to Combat Flight Simulator One. :ping:

Oberon
08-12-07, 06:32 PM
http://aaargh.gameplanet.cz/screen/2/126.gif

http://f-19.hp.infoseek.co.jp/retal/splash3.png

Remember playing this on my cousins PC, we spent about half an hour flying before we found our first bogie, we couldn't figure out what it was at first, this strange black dot in the distance moving left to right...then all of a sudden it shoots straight past us and knocks out half our systems with gunfire! Chaos ensued. :up:

My first ever fighter game was probably this on the NES:

http://www.tomheroes.com/images/mig29.JPG

Stealth Hunter
08-16-07, 01:15 PM
Dynamix's RED BARON (1984 version). I've still got the disks and the game. First great simulator for flight IN HISTORY.

Sailor Steve
08-16-07, 04:59 PM
Maybe the first great computer flight sim, but I've been playing this one since 1977:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/StandMap.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Rumplerchain1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/JastaAlbatros.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Frenchtrio.jpg

STEED
08-16-07, 05:09 PM
They don't make them like that any more Steve. :cool: :up:

FIREWALL
08-17-07, 12:56 AM
I bought this on ebay a couple years ago on a lark cause it was only $.99 and $2.50 shipping. I was highest bidder at $1.00.

Micro Prose 1942 The Pacific Air War.

6 floppies still sealed in original thin cellophane package.

2 manuals 84 page pilots manual

95 page game players guide

And large key reference card

All in mint condition Origanal box a little worn on edges.

I have never played it cause I don't want to open the factory cello containing the floppies. I don't think it's ever been played .

Iron Budokan
08-18-07, 08:19 PM
The first flight sim I ever played was Knights of the Sky by Microprose. It was definitely the game that led me to the "hard" stuff, like a gateway recreational drug leads you to harder mainlining stuff. Knights of the Sky led me to Silent Service II which led me to Red Baron and Aces Over Europe and others.

Now I'm a die-hard SH3 junkie with a VIIC monkey on my back playing at 100% realism and 1x TC. I really need help....intervention, anyone?

silentrunner
08-23-07, 01:06 PM
Aces High for me that is still my favoritehttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:U0M_DtQOGTOicM:http://www.downloadfreeware.nl/images/uploads/b17g13.bmp.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.downloadfreeware.nl/images/uploads/b17g13.bmp.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.downloadfreeware.nl/categorie-demogames/Simulatie%2BGames/1.html&h=163&w=320&sz=91&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=U0M_DtQOGTOicM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Daces%2Bhigh%2BII%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum% 3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN)

Safe-Keeper
08-23-07, 02:17 PM
My first sim was the original Microsoft Flight Simulator, on my family's 386 computer. Played it for hours on end. Then I moved on to Thunderhawk, the Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe demo, and TIE Fighter.

I have great memories of Pilotwings for SNES, too. Think I got it before I got TIE Fighter. Played it, too, for hours upon hours, until I got to the very last airport (after that it was just a gunship mission and then I'd have completed the game).

Biggles
08-23-07, 02:45 PM
Now I'm a die-hard SH3 junkie with a VIIC monkey on my back playing at 100% realism and 1x TC. I really need help....intervention, anyone?
Get your hands on IL-2 1946 and fly this, should work as cryptonite against anything that has to do with realism....

http://www.gamershall.de/index.php?option=com_ponygallery&func=watermark&id=323&Itemid=46

silentrunner
08-23-07, 07:54 PM
Maybe the first great computer flight sim, but I've been playing this one since 1977:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/StandMap.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Rumplerchain1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/JastaAlbatros.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Frenchtrio.jpgWhat the heck is that?:-?

HunterICX
08-24-07, 03:31 AM
A flight sim ofcourse, which in case if your young the parents will aprove to play it for hours :lol:

Syxx_Killer
08-27-07, 09:02 AM
I don't remember which was my first one. I do know it was either Velocity's Jet Fighter or Microprose's F-117A Stealth Fighter. Both were quite fun to play back in the day. The thing that kind of bugged me about Jet Fighter was every enemy aircraft was based on the A-4. See a MiG-29? Yep, it looked like an A-4. The missions were fun, though. F-117A took a while to learn. It came on the computer we had back then. There were no instructions. I managed to figure out what each plane was when it asked you every time you start the game. If you got it wrong, I thing you could only fly training missions or something. I also figured out what every control was, too. That took awhile, but once I did the game was awesome. I still have both on disk. I haven't tried to get either to work.

Here's some info on the games.

F-117A Stealth Figher

http://www.migman.com/ref/1990_combat/F117/F117.htm

Jet Fighter

http://www.migman.com/ref/1980_combat/JF1/JF1.htm

NeonSamurai
08-28-07, 10:44 AM
My first ""3d"" sims was Dambusters, the original Falcon game (the 1985 one), and ms flightsim 1, i guess i could also throw in the old atari dogfighting "sims" and Sopwith

larrysellars
08-28-07, 02:26 PM
Heya guys, long time lurker here. :D

The classic Red Baron was my first flight sim. I loved that game, and I still have it and the original instruction manual (now I just need to find a 5 1/4" disc drive). The manual was my first history lesson in WWI.

Picked up Falcon 3.0 the following year and that showed me how crappy I really was. I don't think I successfully completed a single mission, and it gave me a whole new respect for pilots, especially fighter pilots.

ajrimmer42
08-29-07, 02:32 PM
I think my first one was "Air Combat" for my PS1, then when we got a computer I bought CFS and FS98. All still good, classic games that I play on every once in a while. ahhhh! the thrill of blowing up some pixels that looked a bit like a B-52...

ming
09-13-07, 09:51 AM
Lucas Arts BoB and SWOTL packed in a bundle. Funny, I was just looking at some old screens of these games a few days ago!

XabbaRus
09-13-07, 03:19 PM
My first flight sim experience was on the ZX Spectrum playing the flight sim and Tomahawk with the crazy special lens copy protection.. First real one would have been MS Flight Simulator 3 I think..

Sailor Steve
09-18-07, 04:17 PM
What the heck is that?:-?
The overall system is called Mustangs & Messerschmitts. Obviously it was created during the early Dungeons & Dragons days. The WWI version is variously known as Triplane! and Canvas Falcons; the '30s varian is Legion Kondor and we have Mig Alley for Korea and the modern stuff.

What it is is a flight simulator: every plane is defined by how fast it can roll, turn, climb and dive based on the rolls of a mark on the rear wheel. One player per plane, and shooting is resolved with a roll of the dice. Old fashioned, slow to play and one heck of a lot of fun! It's a flight sim for people who love to build models, and a way for us to play with our models instead of just hanging them from the ceiling.:sunny:

lesrae
09-21-07, 08:36 AM
My first computer one would have been Nightflight on the Dragon 32, sometime in 82~83.

Before that there was Super Flight Deck! :rock:

http://www.stuffwelove.co.uk/images/superfd1.jpg

http://www.stuffwelove.co.uk/superflightdeck.htm

SUBMAN1
09-21-07, 12:29 PM
Microsoft Flight Simulator 1 circa 1982

http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/pictures/Image7.gif

I think I still have those floppies if you want to pick it up again! :p You may need to slow down your CPU to 4.77 Mhz first though! :D Hmm, maybe I am dating myself again by knowing all this stuff??? I better keep quiet.

-S

SUBMAN1
09-21-07, 12:31 PM
My first ""3d"" sims was Dambusters, the original Falcon game (the 1985 one), and ms flightsim 1, i guess i could also throw in the old atari dogfighting "sims" and Sopwith

Oh man - you're old! Wait! How would I know that? I mean - there was an Atari game called Sopwith? :D

-S

SUBMAN1
09-21-07, 12:43 PM
Anyway, my first flight sim didn't even have graphics - it was a text based F-14 simulator that you had to fly completely by instruments. I upgraded to MS Flight Sim the day it came out. I also have very fond memories of a program called JET.

-S

THis is what Jet looks like:

http://www.volny.cz/havlikjosef/galery/jet_1.GIF

Tikigod
10-03-07, 02:25 AM
Gunship by Microprose for the Commodore 64

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Tikigod78/Gunship.jpg

d@rk51d3
10-03-07, 04:10 AM
Does "river raid" on the atari 2600 count?:D

My first real sim was either Microprose, or Microsoft, and had you delivering mail around Wichita in a little red plane.

SUBMAN1
10-03-07, 09:27 AM
Gunship by Microprose for the Commodore 64



I was soo addicted to gunship!!! :D Until I got so good at it that I could wipe every last enemy troop off the battlefield on every single mission without dying.

-S

Onkel Neal
10-07-07, 09:24 PM
Blue Max (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5EtR79G99Y), in 1985 I believe.

UglyMowgli
10-08-07, 12:58 AM
T80 FS-1 by Bruce Artwick on a TR-80 Mod I with 16kB of RAM, the soft was on a K7 tape. Screen resolution was 128x48 pixel :D

http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/images/t80-fs1.gif

source of the image : http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsh/start.htm

nikimcbee
10-08-07, 01:01 AM
micro-prose F-15 Strike Eagle!:rock:

GlobalExplorer
10-08-07, 01:02 PM
Blue Max!

http://screenmania.retrogames.com/c64/01/c64_0002_05.png

Though I remember the graphics to have been much better ..

SUBMAN1
10-11-07, 12:45 PM
Blue Max!

http://screenmania.retrogames.com/c64/01/c64_0002_05.png

Though I remember the graphics to have been much better ..

Is that the one in the arcade that used vector graphics? If so, I played that too. Got so good at that, I couldn't get shot down either.

-S

I-25
10-11-07, 05:27 PM
Aces of the pacific when i was about or 7 years old jajajaa

U49
10-11-07, 05:37 PM
Ace2 with the music from Rob Hubbard.... played it hours and hours... and C64

d@rk51d3
10-11-07, 11:26 PM
Blue Max (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5EtR79G99Y), in 1985 I believe.

Still play that one today. :rock:

Using a C64 emulator (on my PSP) since my C64 was stolen a long time ago.:cry:

Aaaahhhh, I remember the days, strafing tanks, bombing bridges:cool: ............getting bombed by your own guys on your own runway while re-supplying.:damn:

Cynicalgeek
10-11-07, 11:31 PM
On the Apple //e...those were the days.

Metl
10-28-07, 06:30 AM
Anyway, my first flight sim didn't even have graphics - it was a text based F-14 simulator that you had to fly completely by instruments. I upgraded to MS Flight Sim the day it came out. I also have very fond memories of a program called JET.

-S

THis is what Jet looks like:

http://www.volny.cz/havlikjosef/galery/jet_1.GIF

Oh, yeah, buddy! I sucked at that game! Crashed every time. Jet was my first and I hated it, but the first one I actually remember liking and being able to succeed at was Red Baron.

Metl
10-28-07, 06:32 AM
Does "river raid" on the atari 2600 count?:D

My first real sim was either Microprose, or Microsoft, and had you delivering mail around Wichita in a little red plane.

Was that the one on an old console where you flew through barns? I don't even remember what that was called or what it was on.

moose1am
03-09-08, 11:57 PM
I still have that game with all the disks and manuals. But I played it last on my Packard Bell 386SX 20 Mhz computer using Dos 5 or Dos 6.0 I lost some of the Dos 6.0 3.5" disks somehow. And my packard Bell computer's second memory bank is broke and won't keep the memory stick dimm locked in place

I stayed up many a night trying to figure out how to configure the memory to allow me to play that game. Putting drivers into upper memory and such. I even figured out how to do multiple Config.sys menus or what it multiple Auto.exe bat menus.

I use to love playing that game. I noticed that the TBD Torpedo planes were almost impossible to fly in advanced mode as they had no power expecially when loaded up with fuel and a big torpedo. I could not get them to take off and gain altitude in advance mode unless I put them on auto pilot.

The fun part of the game was controlling the air craft carries. Sending out scout planes and then sending out the bombers and torpedo squadrons. Then jumping into a fighter plane during the battle and trying to shoot down a Zero or other JPN game.

I tried to get this game working on a Windows 95 HP Pavilion Computer but had trouble getting it to run . Windows95 memory managment was harder to figure out. And my old CH Pro Joystick didn't want to work in Windows95. And I also have the original CH Rudder Pedals. They used a Y cable to connect the rudder pedals and the joystick ot the sound cards joystick input port. I tried using a CH joystick card too but had trouble getting that setup right. That was back around 2003 when I last tried to fool with that game.

I have all the old games still. I started out playing one of the earlier flight sim games on a Atari 800 Computer. I remember going over to this guys house and seeing him playing that flight sim on his atari computer. It was no fun watching the game from the sideline and I was more interested in something else at that time. This was the predicesor of the MS Flight Sim 1.0

And I use to play F15 Strike Eagle 1.0 on my Atari Computer. Graphis were like PONG back then. But I still spend many hours trying to win that game. It was strickly turn and burn in those days. Nothing but bank 90 deg and pull on the stick. I didn't have that much knowledge about using the verticle or energy management back in those days. I just had to dodge a lot of sam missiles and ememy jets and their aa missiles.

Does anyone know if PAW 1942 will run on a Windows XP Home System?


I bought this on ebay a couple years ago on a lark cause it was only $.99 and $2.50 shipping. I was highest bidder at $1.00.

Micro Prose 1942 The Pacific Air War.

6 floppies still sealed in original thin cellophane package.

2 manuals 84 page pilots manual

95 page game players guide

And large key reference card

All in mint condition Origanal box a little worn on edges.

I have never played it cause I don't want to open the factory cello containing the floppies. I don't think it's ever been played .

d@rk51d3
03-10-08, 04:37 AM
Does "river raid" on the atari 2600 count?:D

My first real sim was either Microprose, or Microsoft, and had you delivering mail around Wichita in a little red plane.

Was that the one on an old console where you flew through barns? I don't even remember what that was called or what it was on.

Barnstormer, I think. I Never took to that game really.

Steel_Tomb
03-10-08, 09:20 AM
My first sim was Sturmovik, it was on a floppy disk. I was about 8 and didn't have a clue of what to do apart from take off lol.

tater
03-10-08, 10:50 AM
The first I played a lot was Air Warrior on my old mac. Went from that to WarBirds. From WarBirds to WW2OL and Il-2.

Egan
03-11-08, 02:36 PM
FS 1. What a game. :yep::up:

clayton
03-22-08, 10:19 PM
Battlehawks 1942. That one took me over the edge and I've been hooked ever since.

Radtgaeb
03-24-08, 11:40 PM
Disney's: Stunt Island back in '94...it came out two years prior...but I was only 2 at the time.

http://www.answers.com/stunt+island?cat=entertainment&gwp=13

Johnson0311
04-01-08, 05:18 PM
Chuck Yager "It's a great day for flying"

Tie fighter. Was great.