court martial pending

[Capt. Shark Bait]

following an exhaustive investigation and followed by an Article 32 hearing I, as the convening authority, have preferred charges of dereliction of duty and failure to obey orders, to wit failing to respond to General Quarters, in time of war. John Channing you will prosecute and AVGWarhawk will defend. the situation which brought about these charges is the second watch remained asleep during the prosecution of an enemy convoy after General Quarters had sounded.

[PepsiCan]

So your boys nodded off, eh?

[Capt. Shark Bait]

yup, and as the first reply, you can be part of the panel

[Swede]

Thats nothing, a few hours ago, i get a message saying my batteries are damaged, so i pause and look outside (no contacts had been reported) and i had just rammed a DD. The dd was now on fire and blowing up. Even a blind watchman could have warned me about that

[PepsiCan]

Maybe, given my current avatar, I can officially declare them deceased? Or would that be biasing the judges towards a certain verdict?

[Capt. Shark Bait]

nope, that wouldn't be biased. Swede, maybe you should initiate an Article 32

[SteamWake]

Leave em at battle stations for 48 hours did ya ?

[orangenee]

I'm thinking this is the responsibility of the CO in this case, and the charges should be dropped immediately.

[Swede]

nope, that wouldn't be biased. Swede, maybe you should initiate an Article 32

Thats ok, those responsible were on watch when someone locked the hatch and decided to do a crash dive drill...

What happens at sea stays at sea

[Sailor Steve]

Since I haven't played the game, I have no opinion one way or the other. Does that make me one of the judges?

[McBeck]

Since I haven't played the game, I have no opinion one way or the other. Does that make me one of the judges?Wheres Hitman anyway when we need a judge?

[alunatic]

lol they only get 1 chance on your sub swede? Tough life....

[SteamWake]

Since I haven't played the game, I have no opinion one way or the other. Does that make me one of the judges?

That would make you the protypical 'impartial jurior' in as 'clueless' :p

[FAdmiral]

Leave em at battle stations for 48 hours did ya ?

And probably let the CO2 levels get high too, YAWN.....

JIM

[C DuDe]

It's just a roomer but I heard they didn't feed the poor guy, something about the chef being ill.

[AVGWarhawk]

In their defense, the boys found upon the medicinal alcohol located in the Skippers bunk for, well, medicinal needs for the injured. Anyway, upon drinking up the entire stock.....they, well, passed out for a indeterminant amount of time claiming seasickness.....:roll: followed up by green vomit that smelled closely of chum and beans on a hot tin roof. Not to mention the itching disorder in the lower regions they received from the local fawna at the last port of call ...shall we say....at the cost of $20.00 per pop.:shifty:. I believe we should give these boys a stay of sentence as a result of being disenfranchised in the Navy and having to serve in the submarines against their will. I understand all of them signed the waivers for the boats under duress....probably sober at the time.

Other than that....leaving the poor lads at battlestations puts them to sleep. Under the fair labor act we would like to bring charges on the Skipper and the entire fleet for this act of over working the men to the point of drinking....hhhmmmm....I mean exhaustion:roll:

[Capt. Shark Bait]

Since I haven't played the game, I have no opinion one way or the other. Does that make me one of the judges?

as the convening authority, i'm the judge, tho you'ld be one of the empanelled members to decide their guilt, or lack thereof. as for being left at their battlestatios for too long, that's not the case as we were engaging a convoy at the time and evading escorts and it was only the second watch which fell asleep at their stations. i'll leave what Warhawk said stand for now, until i hear from the prosecutor

[John Channing]

In their defense, the boys found upon the medicinal alcohol located in the Skippers bunk for, well, medicinal needs for the injured. Anyway, upon drinking up the entire stock.....they, well, passed out for a indeterminant amount of time claiming seasickness.....:roll: followed up by green vomit that smelled closely of chum and beans on a hot tin roof. Not to mention the itching disorder in the lower regions they received from the local fawna at the last port of call ...shall we say....at the cost of $20.00 per pop.:shifty:. I believe we should give these boys a stay of sentence as a result of being disenfranchised in the Navy and having to serve in the submarines against their will. I understand all of them signed the waivers for the boats under duress....probably sober at the time.

Other than that....leaving the poor lads at battlestations puts them to sleep. Under the fair labor act we would like to bring charges on the Skipper and the entire fleet for this act of over working the men to the point of drinking....hhhmmmm....I mean exhaustion:roll:

Your Honour (I'm Canadian), I object. The Counsel for the Defense
is trying to mislead the jury.

It is well known that the Submarine Force is an all Volunteer force. None of these men are here under duress. In the immortal words of Henry Cabot Henhouse III... "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it."

And Defense Counsel knows full well that Civilian Law does not apply to the Military.

And no one offered to share the alledged "Medicinal Alcohol" with either you or me Your Honour.

And I'm hungry.

And my feet itch.

And it smell like old tires in here.

Let's hang the lot and let the Good Lord sort it out.

The Prosecution rests.

JCC

[Capt. Shark Bait]

:hmm: . the president of the Court, me:D , will take the arguements of both counsel into consideration. those who have replied thrus far will make up the panel and decide the watches fate. i'll start a poll thread, and it would be appreciated if only those here may vote, excepting of course both counsel. Captains, the case is now in your hands.

edit: I would ask the panel to consider what counsel has said and base you decision on that only

[AVGWarhawk]

Your Honour (I'm Canadian), I object. The Counsel for the Defense
is trying to mislead the jury.


The jury was not mislead. They used Google Maps to make it here. I personally sent the link! No problem.

It is well known that the Submarine Force is an all Volunteer force. None of these men are here under duress. In the immortal words of Henry Cabot Henhouse III... "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it."


The boys were mislead at the recruiting station. Something about a cruise in the Pacific and fruity drinks. Tour the islands, that sort of thing. The contract showed, 'The Pacific Queen' as the cruise line. Sailor in every port and port in every sailor.;) See the world! It is not just a job it is $1.75/hour. Who would not jump on that?

And Defense Counsel knows full well that Civilian Law does not apply to the Military.


No retort!

And no one offered to share the alledged "Medicinal Alcohol" with either you or me Your Honour.


Private stock means private stock. Find your own:shifty:

And I'm hungry.


Your Honor, motion for recess and lunch;)

And my feet itch.


Tinactin is fast acting!

And it smell like old tires in here.


Sorry, it was the Taco Bell we had for lunch during recess:roll: Gassy...

Let's hang the lot and let the Good Lord sort it out.


Sounds good. I'll get the rope and then we head to the bar when this is completed:up:

The Prosecution rests.


No further debate your Honor.

The offices of Wee, Chetem and How.

[Frederf]

Objection!!

[Capt. Shark Bait]

yanno, this was meant to be taken seriously:-?

edit: i'm gonna go and wait on a pizza, now:roll:

[Fleet Snipe]

Hmmm....

Well, I don't know.. If I dig back 35 years I do recall that we did a heck of a lot of sleeping during General Quarters. Even the real ones (though not a lot of those).

If nothing is going on, you sleep. That's Number one rule. Wake up when stuff is happening and take care of business :lol: Othewise, no one seemed to really care too much.

I say promote every last scurvey dog to an Officer and give them medals!

[Fearless]

Parties involved are excused due to excessive influx of CO2 or where they sniffing diesel fumes :lol:

[FAdmiral]

I say promote every last scurvey dog to an Officer and give them medals!

Then there would be nobody left to run the sub :yep:

JIM

[Reaves]

As a representitive of the Union of Submariners, United Captains and Kapitans (USUCK), I demand all charges be dropped. It is clearly a breach of protocol 489 which states, and I quote.

"Any person who commits an offence within the meaning of this Protocol if that person unlawfully and intentionally, when the purpose of the act, by its nature or context, is to drink substances containing an alcohol level above 15% shall be considered not viable for situations of war. Commanders are advised to ensure the health, fatigue, underwear cleanliness and sobriety of all under his or her command. Failure to do so will result in loss of your vesel and advice on how to 'BE MORE AGGRESSIVE.'

Your honour, your holiness and yours sincerly, it is obvious that this crew was not in a state for general quarters and thus can not be held accountable for dereliction of duty. I will be making a formal complaint to the USN and informing my superiors of the wrongs that have been done this day.

:88)

[Capt. Shark Bait]

USUCK made the above up:shifty:

[-Pv-]

As an expert witness, it's also well known battle stations is not the only cause of excessive fatigue leading to yawning off. Pressing the crew through extended surface running in bad weather prior to your engagement, then the engagement itself, left the entire crew too tired to assume their duties after action on the surface. A crew cycle with lower fatige rating whould have been placed on watch.

-Pv-

[STEED]

Good job your not in my court I would have you and your crew shot on the spot. :smug: Save dollars on a court case which could be used to build more boats. :yep: