Type VII or type IX

[silentrunner]

The most famous U-boat of WWII was the type VIIc; in SH3 the type VII is used to sink ships in and around the U.K. The type IX is the long range much larger U-boat used to sink ships in the South Atlantic. Both have their advantages the type IX is much larger and in my opinion it is way cooler looking. The type VII is faster newer and in SH3 you can sink more ships due to the fact that all missions are in the North Atlantic. What do you think the best U-boat is?

[headcase]

I prefer the IX series boats. Drive one right and it's a true preadator. Definitely not as nimble as a VII, but once she puts her nose down it takes no time to hit 150m. You have plenty of ordanance, a larger crew, more fuel, room to tie up Bernard so he stays out of the way... Just don't get caught on the surface by anything, and stay the blazes away from anywhere you can't put 200m above the deck.

[SmokinTep]

I like them both. Right now I am in a IXB.

[Puster Bill]

I prefer the smaller VII's. They don't hold as much ordnance, but they are more maneuverable, and generally a bit faster underwater.

If the Type IID held just a couple more torpedoes, and was just a touch faster both surfaced and submerged, it would be the IDEAL boat for around the British Isles.

[S Rafty]

I agree, IID is a nice boat.

I prefer the VIIB Dont see the point in the C, slower.

Easy for shortish patrols, and can get good tonnage in a VII aswell as making a mess of smaller ports. IX cant be swung around ina port when DDsare saying hello the not so nice way.


(Btw anyone know how to automaticlaly get a ourse plotted on the Kiel cannel, is tkaing me ages to get through there atm)

[silentrunner]

I prefer the IX series boats. Drive one right and it's a true preadator. Definitely not as nimble as a VII, but once she puts her nose down it takes no time to hit 150m. You have plenty of ordanance, a larger crew, more fuel, room to tie up Bernard so he stays out of the way... Just don't get caught on the surface by anything, and stay the blazes away from anywhere you can't put 200m above the deck. Yeah the IX boats have heavier deck and flak guns plus if I were on a merchant and under surface fire an IX boat would be more frightning.

[Jimbuna]

Type IX every time :rock: more eels, endurance, firepower, looks etc. :arrgh!:

[Brag]

For Kiel Canal tell navigator to plot course while you are still at the dock (I can't remember exact details).

I'm presently revisitng the VII. Nice boat and getting excellent tonnage. Will upgrade to IXD when that is available.

I don't like the view from the bridge of the VII. :shifty:

[Stealth Hunter]

I prefer the VIIC (U-93 is my number).

Sure, may have less of what you need, but I pull raids, not wild goose chases across half the damn ocean.:stare: I always load mine with steam-powered torpedoes (EVERY SLOT IS FILLED WITH THEM).

Best of luck in your next patrol, Kaleun.

[emtmedic005]

Depends on What your good at? If you like to raid ports and patrol coasts, then i would choose the VIIC, Cause of its size and abulity to dive quicker then the IX series. Plus you can create the U-Flak boat, which is awesome at taking down Enemy Planes, which r the u-boats worse fear.

But if You like spending weeks even months at sea and makeing your wife and mistress worried then i would choose a sub from the IX series. There great for crossing the Atlantic and going after convoys. they also carry more torpedos and have the more powerfull 105mm deckgun, but you wont need that once the merchants become ARMED merchants.

I drive the IXB, but when the IXD2 comes out i will be using that. And remeber when you go patrolling the MED use the VIIC, cause the MED is alot smaller.

[Swooth]

(Btw anyone know how to automaticlaly get a ourse plotted on the Kiel cannel, is tkaing me ages to get through there atm)

Under the navigator guy, go to patterns (or something around that area...not many choices to pick between anyway) and there should have Kiel Canal In and Kiel Canal Out. You're going to take the out, I suppose. I haven't played the game in a few weeks, so I'm not sure of the exact names for it, but that's the basic idea of it. It'll plot the whole thing for you.

[STEED]

Type IX every time :rock: more eels, endurance, firepower, looks etc. :arrgh!:

And there pure bloody girl bait as well. :D

[Jimbuna]

That's obviously down to the 'endurance' thing :p

[Puster Bill]

Type IX every time :rock: more eels, endurance, firepower, looks etc. :arrgh!:
And there pure bloody girl bait as well. :D

Girly-man bait, you mean...:lol:

[Puster Bill]

I agree, IID is a nice boat.

I prefer the VIIB Dont see the point in the C, slower.

Easy for shortish patrols, and can get good tonnage in a VII aswell as making a mess of smaller ports. IX cant be swung around ina port when DDsare saying hello the not so nice way.


(Btw anyone know how to automaticlaly get a ourse plotted on the Kiel cannel, is tkaing me ages to get through there atm)

First, The VIIC is slightly slower speed-wise, but slightly quicker to dive. That helps against your biggest threat, aircraft.

Second, it is slightly lengthened which allows you to add very useful things later in the war, things like schnorkels, radar, extra AA guns, etc.

As for getting through the Kiel canal, here is what you do:

Before you even start your engines, go to the map screen, click on your navigator, and then click on the icon for search patterns. You will see three: A standard search pattern, Kiel In, and Kiel Out. Click on 'Kiel Out', and that will plot an automatic course through the canal for you.

On your way back in, place a waypoint *EXACTLY* on the point marked 'Kiel Inbound', then hit the 'Kiel In' search pattern.

[STEED]

Type IX every time :rock: more eels, endurance, firepower, looks etc. :arrgh!:
And there pure bloody girl bait as well. :D

Girly-man bait, you mean...:lol:

Typical coward on his little boat who has no guts for the big stuff. :p

I got so many French women I an swimming in them. :D

[S Rafty]

Cheers for the help guys with the Kiel Navigating.

Surely the VIIB can have all the extra kit aswell.

OMG! The first time I fired the GWX flak gun....:D SO SATISFYING! BLAM BLAM BLAM! HAHAHA ahem...

IX is pretty :P But I like the VII for shorter patrols and are great fun in harbours. Nothing like stopping short of a harbour wall and a DD getting trapped in a dock. Just back away and....boom!

[Canovaro]

Getting a IXD2 is my goal of the game :rock:

It's BIG, plus ... well it's BIG

[Stealth Hunter]

I agree, IID is a nice boat.

For patrols? HELL NO. The IID is a TERRIBLE sub for those, but harbor raids it's extremely useful for (sadly, it lacks a high ordnance capacity and a suitable diesel engine with good batteries, BUT it is small; however, it's not up for the deck gun or anti-aircraft gun upgrade). I think I'd rather be using a Mittel U from 1915 than an IID in the middle of the North Atlantic!

VIIC is one of the best, in my honest opinion. IF you manage to obtain the option to take an XXI in the late war, I suggest you do so... by far, it's the best of all of them, but my only complaint about it is the lacking of a deck gun for smaller merchants (I don't want to waste torpedoes on a fishing boat...).

[Hadrys]

Type VII for immersion and realistic gameplay!

Type IX for scoring insane tonnage, insane endurance (against shells and DCs). Tried it and couldn't play realistic, got back to VIIC i 1943, now thinking about a new campaign in IIA but can't imagine going through the Kiel Canal. I need to change the TC i guess...

[Chisum]

What do you think the best U-boat is?

Hard question and hard choice.

I love the VIIc witch is very beautifull and still THE U-boot by excellence(? I don't know if it's a correct expression).
But after using every type in my first campaign I must say that the type IX/D2 is the better choice.

Ther is a pic of my dear U-178:
http://www.taucher.net/redaktion/26/u183impaeckchenlinks.jpg

U 178 in the foreground, U 183 background left, U 188 in the right, U 532 background on lake.

PS: there is a good idea to built my signature.

[TarJak]

Use em all.:arrgh!: Why choose?

[danurve]

http://huntny.us/images/VII_IX.gif

[Jimbuna]

@Chisum

Are they Fubars skins ? :hmm:

[Chisum]

@Chisum

Are they Fubars skins ? :hmm:

Edit:

Oups misunderstoud.

Yes it seems lol.

;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://huntny.us/images/VII_IX.gif

Nice one ^^^^ danurve:up:


RDP

[Sledgehammer427]

hmm, well ,i would have to say a typ IX wont do any harm, to you at least:arrgh!:
theyre big, they look cool (saddletanks are so last war) and they have the ability to stay out for so long. like someone said before me, drive it right and its a fearsome predator

[CapZap1970]

IX for me, please.
I like this beast better. As Jimbuna said, it's faster, more eels, and longer patrols. :rock:
CapZap

[Jimbuna]

@Chisum

Are they Fubars skins ? :hmm:

Edit:

Oups misunderstoud.

Yes it seems lol.

;)

:lol: :up:

[XLjedi]

I find that my preference has been to use the VIIC.

As for C vs. B, I'm happy to trade off an extra knot submerged to pickup the faster diving and extra topside goodies like the schnorkel. Plus I guess I just like using it for its historical significance.

The IX was great for a new experience, just read Operation Drumbeat and you'll want to fire up a new Hardigan career in a IX. Hunting faster moving tankers in the carribean with a type IX (for me) was a totally different experience than the North Atlantic playground. The downside was TC and real-time it took to traverse the Atlantic. I had to mod my config file to allow for higher TC... I cranked it up to 4096 and it seemed to help. :roll:

I think when the new GWX comes out and Milkcows are operational I will definitely have to revisit the IX!

[dmlavan]

I find each has its advantages and disadvantages, and will do careers in both types. However, I also find there are more great skins (primarily use FUBAR's and STEED's), and some other eye candy, done for the Type VII. So when I'm feeling particularly vain I prefer a "pimped" out VIIC ;)

[IrischKapitan]

I prefer the VII series, the IX is fat, and handles like boat ('scuse the pun)

But dont listen to me have them all and enjoy the U-boat experience! :D:arrgh!:

[Kaleun Hals]

No decision yet...just completed 8 patrols in U-101 (Type VIIB) and currently outbound south near the Cape Verde Islands in my recently aquired Type IXC U-129.

Sad to see the old Type VII go but when Bdu says I'm upgrading then so be it...:cool:

[ReM]

Type VII, all the way..some more eels would be nice though!

[STEED]

Type VII, all the way..some more eels would be nice though!

Want more eels get an IX boat. :lol:

[Steel_Tomb]

I personally prefer the VII over the IX. Mainly because its more agile and quicker to dive. Although it carries fewer eel's you can still get some pretty hefty tonnage using one!

[Brag]

Haven't had a IXD yet but stashing away renown for one. When do they become available?

[STEED]

Haven't had a IXD yet but stashing away renown for one. When do they become available?

Jan43. :yep:

Hopefully in the GWX 1.04 they have corrected it to Sept42. :ping:

[Jimbuna]

Let's hope so ;)

[STEED]

Let's hope so ;)

You have because I raised this issue along with the number of eels for the IXB from 21 to 22. I feel like a :doh:

[Hakahura]

I've used them both, but the IX is my favorite.

Those extra torps and added deck gun punch allow for that bit more tonnage each patrol.

As for the increased dive times and reduced manovrability, IMHO a good kaleun can work round them. I've managed soom sucessful harbour raids with a IX when having a "Prien" moment.

Made it to Oct '44 now and trying to master the XXI.

[KeptinCranky]

Early on I like the IXb best, the downsides aren't all that lethal before 42 and it has all those lovely fish to sink lots and lots of fat merchants as well as the range to visit interesting places like freetown or the canary islands as well as Newfoundland if you prefer sinking canadians.

Later on I like playing in the Med so I only get a VIIc, but for the atlantic I also prefer the VII, I'd definitely rather have the smaller boats so no IXD2 for me, it's just too cumbersome despite the range to go nearly anywhere, although what one would do on the western exit of the Panama Canal is anyone's guess, but If you really wanted to, you could go there in a IXD2, that's it's only real advantage over the other IXs, range

[Tontoman]

IX for the extra torps.

No replacement for displacement :lol:

T.

[UnterseeBoogeyMan]

I always had an attachment to the Type VII but on this career I'm going to spend my renown on a Type IX in time for Operation Weserabung. A few extra torpedoes means maybe I can take out 1, 2 capital ships and have some fish to sapre for some troop transports. Before I died on my last career I realized I need to hang close to Narvik to get all the action. That's my reason for getting a Type IX. 15 fish vs. 9.

[Jimbuna]

Let's hope so ;)

You have because I raised this issue along with the number of eels for the IXB from 21 to 22. I feel like a :doh:

Yep that's right....tis sorted ;)

[nikbear]

Just to add to this discussion,and something worth considering when choosing your prefered boat;) has anyone got a solution to the 'Turm Of Death'for the TypeIXD2:hmm: Finally got one last night,forgot all about the 'bug'.6 ships later go to surface and bang......a promising career down the pan:nope: Any ideas:hmm:

[STEED]

Just to add to this discussion,and something worth considering when choosing your prefered boat;) has anyone got a solution to the 'Turm Of Death'for the TypeIXD2:hmm: Finally got one last night,forgot all about the 'bug'.6 ships later go to surface and bang......a promising career down the pan:nope: Any ideas:hmm:

I can now say 1.04 :D

I tested it and :up:

[nikbear]

Yay.praise the lord and pass the ammunition:rock:

[Jimbuna]

I takr it that meets with your approval ;)

[Goose_green]

When I first played the game I always swore blind to the Type IX boats but I'm more of a Type VII person now - really like the quicker dive times of all things:up:

[Jimbuna]

The type IX is more of a tourer/lone wolf :arrgh!:

[Dimitrius07]

I tried almost all types of uboat in the game (exept the XXI i simply never manage to survive for that).

Well i love all of them - all types have they good and bad sides, its only a mater of each and everybody gameplay style i guess :hmm:

[USS Drum]

With the type IX you can travel anywhere you want, even the pacific.

[Sailor Steve]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Old-MummyHead.jpg

This time the guy who asked the question hasn't even been here in two years.
:rotfl2:

[von Kinderei]

:har:

Good one Steve :yeah:

[andwii]

I prefer the IX series boats. Drive one right and it's a true preadator. Definitely not as nimble as a VII, but once she puts her nose down it takes no time to hit 150m. You have plenty of ordanance, a larger crew, more fuel, room to tie up Bernard so he stays out of the way... Just don't get caught on the surface by anything, and stay the blazes away from anywhere you can't put 200m above the deck.

Ha ha ya tie Bernard up, maybe put him in one of those Nerger torpedos, but even that he would screw up. ha

[Jimbuna]

This time the guy who asked the question hasn't even been here in two years.
:rotfl2:

One would suspect it keeps the download facility open :03:

[Fish In The Water]

:har:

Good one Steve :yeah:

Ditto that... Pretty much says it all. :yep:

[Kpt Kotwica]

Only type VII :D

[Iainclark1]

Hello,Just started playing Silent Hunter 3 with grey wolves mod 3,just wondering if some one can help me out,the mod has the open hatches in it but when the control room is seen,the hatches are all closed,is there something i can do,thanks for any help.Also my fav is the 7c,but really liking the type 21.

[frau kaleun]

Hello,Just started playing Silent Hunter 3 with grey wolves mod 3,just wondering if some one can help me out,the mod has the open hatches in it but when the control room is seen,the hatches are all closed,is there something i can do,thanks for any help.Also my fav is the 7c,but really liking the type 21.

Do you have the necessary mods enabled? You only get open hatches in the control room with certain mods.

GWX comes with an Open Hatch mod which should already be in your MODS folder and ready to use via JSGME. If you enable it, the hatches should be open and not closed.

DD's Open Hatch and FM New Interiors are also mods that allow for open hatches - the hatches start out closed but they can be opened and reclosed at will using keyboard commands. They do not make this possible for all boat types, however.

[Fish In The Water]

Only type VII :D

Nice to see your first post. Welcome aboard mate! :sunny:

[Fish In The Water]

Hello,Just started playing Silent Hunter 3 with grey wolves mod 3,just wondering if some one can help me out,the mod has the open hatches in it but when the control room is seen,the hatches are all closed,is there something i can do,thanks for any help.Also my fav is the 7c,but really liking the type 21.

Hope you get it sorted and welcome to Subsim! :sunny:

[Gerald]

@ Iainclark1! Welcome to SubSim, :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

Do you have the necessary mods enabled? You only get open hatches in the control room with certain mods.

GWX comes with an Open Hatch mod which should already be in your MODS folder and ready to use via JSGME. If you enable it, the hatches should be open and not closed.

DD's Open Hatch and FM New Interiors are also mods that allow for open hatches - the hatches start out closed but they can be opened and reclosed at will using keyboard commands. They do not make this possible for all boat types, however.

Can't add anything more to that other than...Welcome Iainclark1 :sunny:

[SummerStorm]

Courses for horses. I think someone else said if you popping around the Irish Sea, La Manche area and not to far from the sunny shores of Germany then its the VII.
But for the Rambo like brutality of tearing up a convoy its the IX all the way.

Fast dive times are not as useful in a well planned convoy attack. But the pop gun like versatility of the VII, plus the fact it is THE u-boot, makes it my preferred choice of weapon.
That however is mostly due to my playing style, I prefer sneaking into harbours, hugging coastlines and catching my targets idle, unaware or alone. The sheer terror of firing off a massive blast of ordnance and then swiveling port/starboard as depth charges rain on you for three hours is not my cup of tea. :arrgh!:

[Angelo Cire]

I would posit that handled well, a IX is just as good at harbor incursions. I just today took mine into the Irish Sea, sank 2 of what appeared to be Battleships, and continued on to Liverpool. Of course I was surprised to find that there is no Liverpool harbor.... just a big open area of water.
None the less - got in, got out, avoided mines, ASW trawlers, torpedo boats, and destroyers.
Running silent at periscope depth all the way.

[SummerStorm]

But almost 350 tonnes lighter the VII can squeeze into a lot more tight spaces. Mind if there was a midget sub sim, I would probably play that too :haha:

[USS Drum]

Good luck getting a VII to Penang.

[Fish In The Water]

Courses for horses. I think someone else said if you popping around the Irish Sea, La Manche area and not to far from the sunny shores of Germany then its the VII.
But for the Rambo like brutality of tearing up a convoy its the IX all the way.

Fast dive times are not as useful in a well planned convoy attack. But the pop gun like versatility of the VII, plus the fact it is THE u-boot, makes it my preferred choice of weapon.
That however is mostly due to my playing style, I prefer sneaking into harbours, hugging coastlines and catching my targets idle, unaware or alone. The sheer terror of firing off a massive blast of ordnance and then swiveling port/starboard as depth charges rain on you for three hours is not my cup of tea. :arrgh!:

Good post! :up:

[Jimbuna]

Courses for horses. I think someone else said if you popping around the Irish Sea, La Manche area and not to far from the sunny shores of Germany then its the VII.
But for the Rambo like brutality of tearing up a convoy its the IX all the way.

Fast dive times are not as useful in a well planned convoy attack. But the pop gun like versatility of the VII, plus the fact it is THE u-boot, makes it my preferred choice of weapon.
That however is mostly due to my playing style, I prefer sneaking into harbours, hugging coastlines and catching my targets idle, unaware or alone. The sheer terror of firing off a massive blast of ordnance and then swiveling port/starboard as depth charges rain on you for three hours is not my cup of tea. :arrgh!:
SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Hylander_1314]

I like both boats. The Typre VII is great for cutting your teeth on, to get used to the Uboats. The Type IX is for those who like to venture out further in the world. Both have their pros and cons. The smaller boat is more manouverable, and dives faster, which is great when Coastal Cammand and the RAF become more than a nuissance, but it doesn't carry the firepower of the Type IX boats.

Just depends on what kind of mood I'm in. I have 2 campaigns going. One in a VII boats, and one in IX boat.

That's the best of both worlds!

[SummerStorm]

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

HAHAHA :up:
I just stalked a convoy for three days trying to finish off a T2 tanker, I wounded in the first attack.
Failed but I did get all escorts 2 J class and one armed trawler, except for one pesky V&W, and a C2 cargo, Im dissapointed and running out of torpedoes did remind me of the value of a bigger sub. Lets hope my fellow wolves had happy hunting.

[Jimbuna]

HAHAHA :up:
I just stalked a convoy for three days trying to finish off a T2 tanker, I wounded in the first attack.
Failed but I did get all escorts 2 J class and one armed trawler, except for one pesky V&W, and a C2 cargo, Im dissapointed and running out of torpedoes did remind me of the value of a bigger sub. Lets hope my fellow wolves had happy hunting.

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/whistle.gif

[Sepp von Ch.]

:DL

[SummerStorm]

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/whistle.gif

hahaha :arrgh!:
its good to get the odd radio message in the lonely lonely sea.

[Fish In The Water]

hahaha :arrgh!:
its good to get the odd radio message in the lonely lonely sea.

Very true, else you might start feeling like you're playing solitaire against the entire Royal Navy. :D :O:

[Jimbuna]

hahaha :arrgh!:
its good to get the odd radio message in the lonely lonely sea.

You could always consider taking a parrot onboard :DL

[SummerStorm]

You could always consider taking a parrot onboard :DL

My kitten perches on my shoulder whilst I play and after a while dozes off, drapped on the shoulder, always room for a rat catcher :shucks:

[Jimbuna]

My kitten perches on my shoulder whilst I play and after a while dozes off, drapped on the shoulder, always room for a rat catcher :shucks:

LOL :DL

[Nemesis Bosseret]

Reviving this old thread , Type IX is definitely the best. Played both and there is no replacement for displacement. Did raid on Gibraltar with type 9, got over the sub nets and wrecked hell. The fact I can patrol and reload with a full Salvo plus one and reload my aft tubes fully plus one..... it has the capacity of a modern day sub. Sinking merchants with 10 deck gun rounds vs 20 to 30. Im definitely a fan of this boat. If ur worried about dive times ur doing it wrong anyways. 10 seconds is not going to save you. Maneuverability doesn't matter much either unless ur dodging mines

[Schnee]

I usually start off with a Type II in a campaign but move on up to the 7B when available and have to renown but upgrade to a 9C to prepare for drumbeat then swith back to a 7c usually late 43 due to its speed of dive.


Then to a 21 of course to finish off the campaign.


Usually have to in and edit the renown ofcourse.

[subchaserchaser]

I usually start off with a Type II in a campaign but move on up to the 7B when available and have to renown but upgrade to a 9C to prepare for drumbeat then swith back to a 7c usually late 43 due to its speed of dive.


Then to a 21 of course to finish off the campaign.


Usually have to in and edit the renown ofcourse.


This. Love the character of a type II. every bit of tonnage feels a bit weightier in a type II. A full career includes a patrol in every part of the atlantic imho, so paukenschlag is a must. Memories of late war air attacks always make me switch back to a type VII around '43 also. Sailing a type XXI is very rare for me in a career. I usually don't make it that far.:ping:

[Aktungbby]

subchaserchaser!:Kaleun_Salute: after a 7 year silent run.?!:arrgh!:

[subchaserchaser]

subchaserchaser!:Kaleun_Salute: after a 7 year silent run.?!:arrgh!:


Thankyou!

Been here a while yes, soaking it up.

Thanks for being here:subsim:

[Fifi]

In SH3, definitely not fan of IX types.
Way too easy to rack up billions tons of merchants and... the biggest issue for me is the conning deck not proportional at all (crew is standing way too high up the conning tower). Kind of ridiculous and game breaker for me. I never use this big boy.
Much prefer the work house VII types! :yep: Not running too fast, they can even make it to US coasts and back...

[John Pancoast]

Well it's easy to rack up silly tonnages in any model, but I only use VIIs. No fat pig, slow diving IXs for me. :D

[Fifi]

And....there is no full interior for IX as far as i know....except in SH4.
(It could be doable to import it in SH3)

[Aktungbby]

My kitten perches on my shoulder whilst I play and after a while dozes off, drapped on the shoulder, always room for a rat catcher :shucks: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=9585 ...And I thought I was the only one with that problem!:arrgh!: Mine, a devoted, demanding Burmese, always wants attn/food at the worst possible moments... usually when stalking the convoy in SH V! I just try to remember Ms. Penelope is "the Lesser of two weevils" to a true :subsim:er > http://www.subsim.com/404n.jpg:oops::dead:... and she's
killed one mouse in her 8 year sojourn with us as her servants!

[Mad Mardigan]

My kitten perches on my shoulder whilst I play and after a while dozes off, drapped on the shoulder, always room for a rat catcher :shucks:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=9585 ...And I thought I was the only one with that problem!:arrgh!: Mine, a devoted, demanding Burmese, always wants attn/food at the worst possible moments... usually when stalking the convoy in SH V! I just try to remember Ms. Penelope is "the Lesser of two weevils" to a true :subsim:er > http://www.subsim.com/404n.jpg:oops::dead:... and she's
killed one mouse in her 8 year sojourn with us as her servants!

Not the only 1... My sammerkins, who loves to be around Me, while I am at the computer... My wing kitty...

http://snipboard.io/1eWRp8.jpg

http://snipboard.io/ykZCSt.jpg

Per the thread, hmm... kind of have a preference for both... of which I do a career for them but separately... keeping to that class line... VII, I start off with the 1st available & then decide which to go with next C then whatever next. Same with the IX, 1st available then upgrade to the next in line that becomes available... & so on & so forth.. til I either get k-lined by the enemy or I make it til the end.. of which.. I admit, I haven't made yet... YET, being the operative word.. I shall prevail.. hopefully before I go on eternal patrol... :Kaleun_Cheers:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute: