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SUBMAN1
07-30-07, 05:30 PM
Interesting, but not surprising.

-S

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33137/118/





Sacramento (CA) – A new California study has found that several electronic voting machines have serious security vulnerabilities. California Secretary of State Debra Bowen commissioned the study which pitted two hacker teams, better known as “Red Teams” against voting machines manufactured by Diebold, Hart and Sequoia. The hackers found several security problems and were able to change firmware, access the election database and even open up the machines without detection.

The study was headed by Matt Bishop from UC Davis. The first Red Team was lead by Robert Abbott and his team examined the Diebold and Hart machines at a secure facility in Sacramento. Giovanni Vigna and Richard Kemmerer from UC Santa Barbara matched wits with the Sequoia voting machine.

Both teams found alarming security problems in all the machines. Bishop summed it up by writing, “The red teams demonstrated that the security mechanisms provided for all systems analyzed were inadequate to ensure accuracy and integrity of the election results.”

Abbott’s team was able to access election data directly by exploiting vulnerabilities in the Diebold machine’s Windows operating system – an operating system that all three e-voting machines use. They were also able to bypass locks and other physical security with “ordinary objects”. Election data on the Hart machine was also easily compromised.

Vigna’s team also found physical security on the Sequoia voting machine to be inadequate. They gained access to the machine’s insides by unscrewing a few locks and discovered that the screws with not protected by seals.

The study adds that all three machines used some form of Windows operating system and that each machine's firmware was easily overwritten by the teams.

Bishop complains that his teams didn’t have enough time to fully document all the security vulnerabilities because they study started in mid-June and ended July 20th. Secretary of State Bowen had said that the deadline could not be extended because the counties need at least six months to examine the findings. Bishop added that Abbott’s team was close to finding several other problems, but simply ran out of time.

Spoon 11th
07-31-07, 12:06 AM
"The lesson is: never vote" - Homer Simpson.

P_Funk
07-31-07, 05:09 AM
The study adds that all three machines used some form of Windows operating system and that each machine's firmware was easily overwritten by the teams. Well theres your problem. Graft strikes again. Windows + Security = Le Suck.

You know another reason why I love my country? The voting. Know how we do it? No chads, no buttons or levers. You don't have to pick your candidate like you do your lotto numbers, no. We have a big circle and a pencil. You put an 'X' in the circle for your candidate and then you fold it and drop it in the freaking box.

Whats wrong with the 'X'? America is great for so many reasons. But this whole voting revolution is just, in the parlance of our times, GAY!

EDIT.

LOOK!
http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2006/01/election/sample_ballot.gif

Heibges
07-31-07, 09:42 AM
And the really funny part is that we knew they could be easily hacked before we installed them. :D

SUBMAN1
07-31-07, 01:34 PM
And the really funny part is that we knew they could be easily hacked before we installed them. :D

I know - it is pretty sad. ANd they forced them down are throats - kind of like a solution waiting for a problem, but in the case the solution to a non-existant problem, created a ton of problems! Crazy.

THey probably want these machines in there precisely because they can be hacked and the vote count skewed.

-S

SUBMAN1
07-31-07, 01:35 PM
The study adds that all three machines used some form of Windows operating system and that each machine's firmware was easily overwritten by the teams. Well theres your problem. Graft strikes again. Windows + Security = Le Suck.

You know another reason why I love my country? The voting. Know how we do it? No chads, no buttons or levers. You don't have to pick your candidate like you do your lotto numbers, no. We have a big circle and a pencil. You put an 'X' in the circle for your candidate and then you fold it and drop it in the freaking box.

Whats wrong with the 'X'? America is great for so many reasons. But this whole voting revolution is just, in the parlance of our times, GAY!

EDIT.

LOOK!


I hear ya.

hoagiedriver
08-01-07, 04:54 PM
What's even more sad is there isn't a paper recept for a paper trail, and there were dippoops that still defended it!

P_Funk
08-01-07, 08:38 PM
I hear ya.
I get a warm fuzzy feeling when we agree, SUBMAN. :)

waste gate
08-01-07, 08:54 PM
What's even more sad is there isn't a paper recept for a paper trail, and there were dippoops that still defended it!

In my opinion the really sad thing is how many people aren't of an education that they can vote correctly. My experience is that computer voting is much like P_funk described as Canadian voting, except on a video screen. Beyond that, one is required to review the choices before submitting the vote.

If the ability to hack into that system is the issue then it is upto the local election officials to close that opening. If they cannot, time for them to leave. I'm a bit taken aback that private industry can secure networks and government cannot.
If the political will existed I'm sure it can be done.

P_Funk
08-02-07, 04:13 AM
If the ability to hack into that system is the issue then it is upto the local election officials to close that opening. If they cannot, time for them to leave. I'm a bit taken aback that private industry can secure networks and government cannot.
If the political will existed I'm sure it can be done. I think that thats a bit of a broad generalization there. More of the ole' free market is god stuff. Granted security is tight in multinational computer bases, I do recall hearing about the DOD getting hacked and I'm pretty sure that national security spends alot on keeping its systems secure. That and companies get hacked all the time. Here I think you're describing the problem as your political position dictates you interpret it when common sense says "who cares if private or government are better at stopping hackers, why the hell are we even making this electronic in the first place?"

Honestly, we can put a man on the moon but why would we? Whats the motiovation? Why is everyone so exited to make voting another after thought of the computer age like paying with your credit card? If you can't fly home to vote in the election or even use a pencil or EVEN pay people to read the ballots individually then why even bother with democracy? Computers are here to make things more convenient. I don't believe that voting should be any more convenient than it already is.

TteFAboB
08-02-07, 09:44 PM
Wait untill Internet voting is promoted. Log on some website and submit your vote. Now your presence isn't needed anymore, your IP's will suffice. You'll just have to squeeze it in-between those hundreds of thousands of fake IPs.