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Is there a file I can modify where I can adjust the weather through a whole mission? Can you give me details on how to do it?
Thanks in advance,
Dep :D
If you do a search for Weather mod you'll find what you are after. Don't complain. It could be bad weather permanently which can be worse. BTW how often are you saving and reloading. The weather change chance timer gets reset every time you do that even with the weather mod.
If you do a search for Weather mod you'll find what you are after. Don't complain. It could be bad weather permanently which can be worse. BTW how often are you saving and reloading. The weather change chance timer gets reset every time you do that even with the weather mod.
I tried one weather mod (SH3Weather Update 1.5) but it only gave me nice weather after initially leaving the base harbor. As soon as I got near to England the weather turned crummy again. Is that the mod you are talking about? I play the whole mission through without saves. I did a search but couldn't find what I am looking for. Can you steer me to it please?
Dep
I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202
I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.
ahaseurus2000
07-29-07, 09:26 PM
Weather data is contained in the campaign_???.mis files in the campaign folder.
it goes something like this:
...
fog=?
fograndom=?
clouds=?
cloudsrandom=?
rain=?
rainrandom=?
wind=?
winddirection=?
windrandom=?
...
WeatherInterval=7?
set all the values to "0" and you'll have sunny, calm seas with high visibility. I prefer fog set to medium (2) which allows me to sneak up on convoys while surfaced.
WeatherInterval sets how many hours must pass before the weather can change. I think the highest setting is "72", meaning three days.
I find weather still changes even with all the randoms set to zero. SH3Weather doesn't alter the randoms.
finally return to port before changing these files. and have the same settings in each file to lower the risk of errors.
TarJak: That's the program I tried and it just gave me calm weather when leaving port. But thanks anyway :up:
ahaseurus2000: Ahhhhhh...now we are talking!!!! :D :up:
Thanks a ton for that info. I like to do a lot of surface kills early in the war and nasty weather sure puts the crimp on them. I appreciate that info!!!!
Dep
SmokinTep
07-30-07, 09:50 AM
I just finished a patrol which started out calm, no wind. Made it all the way to my patrol area, off of Africa, still calm. Did a save, came back and still had calm seas, usually it starts out with bad weather from a save. Spent 20 days at sea and only had a couple of days of bad weather.
GWX.........
Well I did the file modification as described by ahaseurus2000 and it worked exactly as he described it. Water was smooth as silk. I managed to get some excellent kills off the southeast coast of England using both torps and deck gun. Even blasted some aircraft out of the sky!! After 72 hours and on my way back to home port the weather turned back to stormy. I went back into the three Campaign_ LND, RND, and SCR files and it looks like nothing was changed. They are still at the same setting I modified them to...
[Mission]
Title=
MissionType=0
MissionDataType=1
Year=1939
Month=1
Day=1
Hour=12
Minute=0
Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=0
CloudsRand=0
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=0
WindRand=0
WeatherRndInterval=72
SeaType=0
Briefing=
I changed all 3 files to read exactly the same settings. I wonder what the overriding file is that changes things after 72 hours??? Perhaps I will try a higher number on the WeatherRndInterval to see if that has any effect.
Dep
Kaleun Hals
07-30-07, 02:03 PM
Awww...what's wrong with doing the old fashioned way and just taking on whatever weather comes your way...like real life. Those boys sixty years ago couldn't change the weather. The North Atlantic has pretty crap weather most of the time anyway.
Think of it as an added challenge.:sunny:
Awww...what's wrong with doing the old fashioned way and just taking on whatever weather comes your way...like real life. Those boys sixty years ago couldn't change the weather. The North Atlantic has pretty crap weather most of the time anyway.
Think of it as an added challenge.:sunny:
That would be fine once I get some experience under my belt. Plus in the early years more kills were made with deck guns than torps. It seems like EVERY time I go out I hit crummy weather after a day or two no matter what part of the world I'm in. I don't think the whole world was under one massive, permanent crummy weather front :down:
ahaseurus2000
07-31-07, 09:54 PM
That would be fine once I get some experience under my belt. Plus in the early years more kills were made with deck guns than torps. It seems like EVERY time I go out I hit crummy weather after a day or two no matter what part of the world I'm in. I don't think the whole world was under one massive, permanent crummy weather front :down:
... How much experience do you have with British Weather, Deputy?
BarjackU977
08-01-07, 12:54 AM
10th patrol of my current career, and it makes days and days and days that I have a crappy weather with a 15 m/s wind, soon after leaving the harbour... I'm getting sick while performing periscope attacks! :)
Challenging, but I'm getting a bit bored of having bad weather almost all the time since a couple of patrols.
GWX too, here.
Captain Nemo
08-01-07, 06:23 AM
The weather in SH3 has never really bothered me, I save a lot but still seem to have regular changes in the weather. I get days where the weather is foul, but I also get days where my crew could slap on the sun tan lotion and get a nice tan. For example, I recently started a new career and for my first patrol the weather was excellent i.e. high visibility, sea like glass. For my second patrol I have had very little cloud cover, but half way through the patrol very rough seas have prevented any use of the deck gun. I do use SH3Commander and have the option for seasonal wave heights checked, not sure if this has any effect on the weather though.
Nemo
bigboywooly
08-01-07, 09:14 AM
I know it doesnt affect players who play straight thru but remember the weather clock
The game is supposed to change to weather according to the entry
WeatherRndInterval=4
On the campaign files
4=hours
So in theory the game should make changes to the weather every 4 hours or so
BUT
It seems to go for days of calm then stormy and little else in between
Now if after day 5 the weather is still calm and you save and exit the game
When you reload that save you reset the weather clock
So you should now get another 5 days at least of good weather
Save after 6 days in a storm and when you reload you again reset the clock and so will get at least 6 days of crap weather
Those who make a lot of saves as above can end up in the same weather the whole patrol
SmokinTep
08-01-07, 09:39 AM
The weather doesn't bother me. I take it as another challange.
That would be fine once I get some experience under my belt. Plus in the early years more kills were made with deck guns than torps. It seems like EVERY time I go out I hit crummy weather after a day or two no matter what part of the world I'm in. I don't think the whole world was under one massive, permanent crummy weather front :down:
... How much experience do you have with British Weather, Deputy?
In the game...way too much!!!:down: I know in real life the North Atlantic gets bad weather. But the game isn't just modelled in the North Atlantic. Even along the US coast and along South America and Africa it seems to be perpetual storming. Heck, maybe I ned a mod that will allow me to use the deck gun during rough weather if I can't get out of this crazy perpetual storm season mode!!!! Hmmmm...I wonder if there is such a mod????
SmokinTep
08-01-07, 10:38 AM
You can always change a file to allow you to use the deck gun in 15 knot winds.
You can always change a file to allow you to use the deck gun in 15 knot winds.
That'll work!!! Which file and how do I do it??? And thanks!!!
I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202
I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.
I recommend this mod, I always use it with SHIII Commander. :up:
I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202
I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.
I recommend this mod, I always use it with SHIII Commander. :up:
I tried that mod and it doesn't allow permanent change to calm weather. :cry:
Ah looks like I misread something then. :oops:
Well in my new career first 3 mission went on with fully calm weather. Not becouse the mod made it possible, I was just lucky. But the weather mod really makes the weather changing, not just having full storms all the time.
The British weather is mostly really awful and I heard the northern Atlantic isn't much better. I know it can be frustrating, but I got used to it. ^^
I understand about the North Atlantic being bad weather and rough water, but SH3 seems to apply that weather to the whole world. :yep:
drussxx
08-01-07, 02:42 PM
i am fed up with having 7 days of heavy fog . i will try the weather mod. mainly to reduce that effect.
I want to be sure about one thing. Saving and reloading during a patrol causes the weather to change more frequently, or less?
I think I read somewhere that after loading a savegame, the weather doesn't change for 48 hours...
I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202
I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.
I may have goofed up with this mod. I tried it again using SH3 Commander to start the sim and it seems to work okay. Had plenty of good weather. Unfortunately, both my flak gunners got blasted when I got greedy with getting aircraft kills :D
Dep
irish1958
08-02-07, 11:02 AM
If you change your config file, and then use SH3Weather mod, it resets all of your values. If you like the weather you are having, do as BBW suggested and save, then restart and you will have some more of the weather you like.
I have had as much as 8 weeks of 15ms wind dense for, clouds and rain.
I know the North Atlantic and Ireland/British Isles get some bad weather, but 8 weeks seems a little much
irish: That was my feeling exactly on the amount of time bad weather was present. So far the mod seems to be working well.
Dep
ahaseurus2000
08-03-07, 01:22 AM
It's been mentioned that saving regularly resets the weather-change-interval, giving you perfect weather forever. will have to test this.
Suppose you wanted the weather to change as frequently as possible. How would you do it?
Suppose you wanted the weather to change as frequently as possible. How would you do it?
I supposed you could edit the files mentioned on the first page of this thread to read WeatherRndInterval=1. That might do the trick. Would change weather every hour...I think.
onelifecrisis
08-07-07, 04:35 PM
This seems like a good place to ask my newest newbie question.
Although I had no issue with the default weather, I decided to try SH3Weather anyway. I'm disappointed with the results. So far I've had a week of sun, stars, and flat water... just off the north coast of Scotland... in September. Yeah, right, whatever! How do I get rid of this piece of **** (pardon my language)? I can uninstall it easily enough but how do I get my campaign.mis file (or whatever it is that gets modified) back to it's stormy old self?
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