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miner1436
07-28-07, 08:10 PM
Hello, i was wondering is someone could tell me where to find my fps

Iron Budokan
07-28-07, 08:20 PM
Ctl + F8, if I'm not mistaken.

sqk7744
07-28-07, 08:34 PM
Yip :up:

miner1436
07-28-07, 08:37 PM
is 12fps good?

John Channing
07-28-07, 08:55 PM
Well, I guess the question would be how are you with 12 FPS?

There are some tweaks you can do . This first one is...

Open the file C:\program Files\ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\data\cfg\Main.cfg

Go right to the bottom of this file

You'll see

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes

Change them to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

That should get you a few more FPS.

JCC

ReallyDedPoet
07-28-07, 09:00 PM
is 12fps good?

Depends what conditions you are in as well. When are you getting that fps?


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miner1436
07-28-07, 09:12 PM
im getting 12fps with enviormental effects on and 18 with it off

ReallyDedPoet
07-28-07, 09:19 PM
im getting 12fps with enviormental effects on and 18 with it off
Is this in open water, nothing around you? Do you have Volumetric Fog disabled, if not do it,
it is a fps killer :yep:


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miner1436
07-28-07, 09:21 PM
everything disabled but enviormental, sitting next to a mogami cruiser, 12fps

miner1436
07-28-07, 09:29 PM
John Channing thanks that added a few more fps got any other ideas?

ReallyDedPoet
07-28-07, 09:36 PM
This thread may give you a few ideas :yep:: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118939

Do some searching I am sure there are others ^^^^.

Also, what are your system specs?

It is late here so I am signing off, but will check back tommorow.


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ryanwigginton
07-28-07, 11:12 PM
I'm not trying to brag here but I hate it when mine falls below 60fps. I've seen others playing games with fps similar to your own and their perfectly happy about it. 12fps sounds a little low to be enjoyable though. The other thing is you'll notice your cursor either gliding smoothly across the screen or dragging as your fps falls.

Turn all graphics options off to begin with. Set the minimum resolution your happy with, then add one effect at a time. Play ten minutes or so, if it's still smooth enough add another etc. Also, if you show your fps at the top of the screen sometimes the number will rise or fall (even though the games paused) as you change the options. The two effects options I find it hardest to live without is the full screen glare and the high quality textures.

Hope that helps. :)

cunnutazzo
07-28-07, 11:36 PM
turn off 3D wakes, they are not so important and you'll get about 2 or 3 fps more.

ryanwigginton
07-29-07, 01:21 AM
Also, do all your testing stood on the bridge view facing forward and down since that (for some bizarre reason) seems to cause the most drag on the system when out at sea.

Drebbel
07-29-07, 05:34 AM
[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes

Change them to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

What is disabled with these settings ? Is there any effect on gameplay when switching these OFF ?

EAGLE_01
07-29-07, 05:37 AM
[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes

Change them to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

What is disabled with these settings ? Is there any effect on gameplay when switching these OFF ?

No, none whatsoever.

heartc
07-29-07, 05:40 AM
John Channing thanks that added a few more fps got any other ideas?

Change the texture and mipmap settings in *your graphics card setup* outside the game more to "performance" than "quality". It might start looking too crappy for you on some of the 3D stations in the boat though, such as the sonar station (but you will still have the digital readout if the bearing lines lose some of their sharpness).

Gunfighter
07-29-07, 06:44 AM
Hi Guys, Read all post on this subject so could you tell me what is an acceptable rate I get 25-28 at bridge station with a nice smooth graphic performance no judders.I do get slight flashing at External Camera ie: sub icon flicks about screen but nothing to bad and just now and then ?

system:
Pent 4 3.20
2gb Ram
Nvid 7800GS 256mb
80gb HD

THE_MASK
07-29-07, 06:47 AM
I have tried everything possible without spending money to get better fps . Overclocking via software the graphics card , changing settings , uninstalling , cleaning , defraging etc etc . I have come to the conclusion that apart from disabling volumetric fog the only thing that can get me more fps is a better graphics card .



P.S. The layer of dust that i removed from between the cpu and the aluminium cpu heatsink helped to stabilize my system .

Linavitch
07-29-07, 06:48 AM
Hi Guys, Read all post on this subject so could you tell me what is an acceptable rate I get 25-28 at bridge station with a nice smooth graphic

Seems acceptable if you consider that film is shot at 24 fps although that system should be capable of a bit more

cunnutazzo
07-29-07, 07:27 AM
Seems acceptable if you consider that film is shot at 24 fps although that system should be capable of a bit more

a film/movie works in a different way, in a game every frame is like a stroboscobic light, no panning, and you need of 40fps at least to see it absolutely smooth.
Anyway SH4 at 20 or 25 fps is good enough because the ships are not like airplanes, they are very slow! just some problems with huge explosions, but nothing serious.

Stary Wuj
07-29-07, 07:31 AM
What a pity, this game looks much worse than SH3 IMHO (especially water and crew,
very ugly crew :-) and low FPS is just immersion killer............

Best Regards

Koci

ReallyDedPoet
07-29-07, 07:34 AM
What a pity, this game looks much worse than SH3 IMHO (especially water and crew,
very ugly crew :-) and low FPS is just immersion killer............

Best Regards

Koci

Not sure what SH4 (^^^) you are playing:hmm: My copy looks and plays very well :yep:

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/water_test1.jpg
Screen from Living Breathing Ocean Mod.


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Stary Wuj
07-29-07, 07:45 AM
Polish version, 1.3, - and I can give You my key - SH4-B8RW-B03G-3JE3-X6UT -
enough ?

Again, SH3 graphics looks clear and realistic, SH4 mood is like some kind of fantasy,
strange water and weird ships (GeForce 7800 GTX) with low FPS, just my opinion,
again eye candy is immersion killer, like in many modern games..............

I'm back to SH3 with GWX :-)

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

ReallyDedPoet
07-29-07, 07:51 AM
To each his own :yep: Opinions and gameplay, by the way you may want to remove that key.
Plus I have both installed, like to have the option of either theatre.


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Stary Wuj
07-29-07, 07:57 AM
I don't care about it, I'm not "multiplayer" fan :-)

So, You really think this water looks realistic ?
As You wish, but..........................................

BTW, with disabled Antialiasing it looks worse than I ever saw :-)

Sorry for my english.

:-)

Stary Wuj

ReallyDedPoet
07-29-07, 08:03 AM
I don't care about it, I'm not "multiplayer" fan :-)

So, You really think this water looks realistic ?
As You wish, but..........................................

BTW, with disabled Antialiasing it looks worse than I ever saw :-)

Sorry for my english.

:-)

Stary Wuj
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/ranks/drunk2v.jpg

ahhh, ^^^ your drinking, knew something was up :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Storm water needs work, but the above mod (pic), combined with transparency and lighting underwater looks amazing.

No problems about your English, it is much better than if I tried your language.

GWX looks great, but I hear more complaints on gameplay with SH4, not to many on the graphics side to be honest.


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Stary Wuj
07-29-07, 08:25 AM
I understand Your point of few.
I hope SH5 will be much better than SH4 (if will..................... :-)

Have a nice day and more......

BTW - I'm in love with SH3 because of "DAS BOOT" movie, and many books about
U-boot's and Kriegsmarine, thats why SH4 is only "eye candy and no immersion" subsim for me. Over Pacific I prefer "Pacific Fighters" (flight simulator) :-)

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

Sorry for "off topic" - low FPS is much important.

Wow - I'm not drunk anymore :-)

ReallyDedPoet
07-29-07, 08:41 AM
I understand Your point of few.
I hope SH5 will be much better than SH4 (if will..................... :-)

Have a nice day and more......

BTW - I'm in love with SH3 because of "DAS BOOT" movie, and many books about
U-boot's and Kriegsmarine, thats why SH4 is only "eye candy and no immersion" subsim for me. Over Pacific I prefer "Pacific Fighters" (flight simulator) :-)

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

Sorry for "off topic" - low FPS is much important.

Wow - I'm not drunk anymore :-)
Good discussion:up: You sobered up quickly, how's the head :hmm:

and yes back on topic :yep:

Good Hunting:arrgh!:


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miner1436
07-29-07, 07:18 PM
thnaks guys

PepsiCan
07-30-07, 04:56 AM
Well, I guess the question would be how are you with 12 FPS?

There are some tweaks you can do . This first one is...

Open the file C:\program Files\ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\data\cfg\Main.cfg

Go right to the bottom of this file

You'll see

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes

Change them to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

That should get you a few more FPS.

JCC

...you may need to do this also in the file in your My Documents\SH4 folder

ryanwigginton
07-30-07, 08:43 AM
Was just browsing my main.cfg. Whats Dynamic Shadows. Didn't see the option for this in game or does it come under a different name?

John Channing
07-30-07, 11:18 AM
Well, I guess the question would be how are you with 12 FPS?

There are some tweaks you can do . This first one is...

Open the file C:\program Files\ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\data\cfg\Main.cfg

Go right to the bottom of this file

You'll see

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes

Change them to

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No

That should get you a few more FPS.

JCC

...you may need to do this also in the file in your My Documents\SH4 folder

Yup. I forgot to mention that.

Thanks.

JCC

SteamWake
07-30-07, 12:06 PM
Sorry to wander off topic again but frankly I dont have any FPS issues.

The 'water' in sh4 is better than sh3 in my opinion but here is another game that got it 'just right' http://www.virtualskipper-game.com/en/images/

Too bad they dont have any videos it really is quite convincing.

miner1436
08-08-07, 06:43 PM
finally i know why it runs slow i have a two processers running at 1.86 Ghz each, would i be better off buying a new processer or is there anything else i can do?

cunnutazzo
08-09-07, 05:31 AM
this is the most recent directx update:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=CB7397F3-0949-487B-9247-8FEE451BF952&displaylang=en
it improves vertex shader 2 and 3.
I gave it a try, my fps seem improved.

ghost_666_rider
08-09-07, 07:30 AM
I've been messing about with the settings in tray tools for FS-X, and under the advanced tweaks found one setting which seems to have helped SH4 by almost 17 FPS on my 2900's. Just for comparison, did the same thing on the agp 850xt and gained a measly 3 frames, but an improvement none-the-less.

ATT- Tweaks - Advanced Tweaks - Fast Colour Clear

I don't have any Nvidia experience, so I don't know if they have this option at all, or if anyone else can confirm this to be any improvement or just in my head.

In the same section, the colour compression option did help FS-X, but seems to have no improvement on SH4 on the 2900's, but did give another 2 frames on the agp. Again don't know if this can help anyone else at all.

SteamWake
08-09-07, 10:59 AM
so could you tell me what is an acceptable rate

One that is acceptable to you and allows smooth game play.

You cannot put a finite number on it.

C DuDe
08-09-07, 04:26 PM
so could you tell me what is an acceptable rate

One that is acceptable to you and allows smooth game play.

You cannot put a finite number on it.



Indeed.


Í have an older PC (about 2 years old) but am still capable of running this game with 60 - 100FPS if I want to depending on my settings.

My Spec's:
_ Asus P4P 800 E Dlx 800FSB
_ Asus ATi radeon X800 PRO TVD
_ 1.5Gg DaneElec dual 400FSB
_ Intel P4 3.2
_ 250Gg SATA 16mb cache
(3 partitions with D drv as my proggie and game drv with SF set to
1536 - 3072 to it. C is my OS and hardware drv's only at 45 Gg. rest is just data.
_ Plantronics Game Com PRO 1 (have older Audigy ZS but don't use it)
_ Screen resolution 1024 x768 75Hz (Phillips V190 19”)
_Win XP PRO


Game settings:

All but the V-Sync checked to the right side.

Ship 3d damage half Terrain objects density 1/3 (Mostly as sea so)
Character detail full Terrain object LOD size half
Particle density 2/3

All others un-checked.


Mod’s installed:
Ducimus TM 1.4 with GFX installed
Leovampire Living breathing ocean
Anvart R&L periscope fix :oops:
Capt. Kobuk Torpedoes 25% more powerful (nothing to do with FPS)
Capt.Cox CBS News (ditto)

With those settings and Mod’s I get 70 outside, 60 with periscope, 100 inside and 120 in map modes.

I play the game with the same settings as above but also have:
Post Process filter checked
Full scene glare checked
Environmental effects checked


With these settings and Mod’s I get 50 outside, 70 inside (fluxes a lot between 50 and 80), 45 with periscope and 100 in map modes.

How do I get these FPS'es….

Well it’s simple actually, I close or stop every thing next to the clock with NAV being the biggest memory eater. This gives me a 100% increase of FPS!!! :yep:
(This came from a thread on this forum so no credit to me for typing it here. Can’t remember his Nickname but Thx…:up:

I could stop IExplorer.exe (how to, on this forum aswell) and others in the task manager but I don’t need to as far as I’m concerned.

It’s all about fine tuning your system, for older PC’s it takes a bit more work but with high end PC’s it’s all about the right drivers and fine tuning the VD-card.

Side Note:
When you buy a new PC pleeeeeaaaase check if the hardware is compatible.
You can buy a 1600000000FSB mobo with every thing on it for all I care but when the other hardware isn’t compatible by having 1 part only capable of doing 8000FSB your PC is going to run at that speed leaving the rest… well....doing nothing.
Same goes for the VD-Card.

Your PC is always going to be as fast as the slowest part and there’s nothing you can do about it other then replace the slowest part of course.

This is my dream machine.
http://www.alienware.com I customised one and came to $7800 :dead:

A man can dream can’t he? :88)