View Full Version : Just read Das Boot the book
UnterseeBoogeyMan
07-21-07, 02:57 PM
Loved every page of it. If you think the uboat-men were filthy in a putrid environment in the movie, the book brings it out even more. Damp, sweaty, food broken plates, every where, one can to go the head in (lucky if you get there once a day), sailors litterally crapping their pants during a depth-charge run and the smell hits the control room , etc. I will say the movie deviated from the book, but as movies from books go I think Wolfgang Peterson did the best job of anyone staying true to the book. Some on the lines were straight out of the book, "here Lt, here's the life preserver, only works for in the shower, and take the plugs, really helps with the diesel stinks, hahaha" or "where are our patrol planes, talking is all he's good for the fat slob" or "the Tipperary song if you have no objections".
I would say the portrayal is even ahead of Hunt For Red October.
Nevertheless, there were scenes in the book, not in the movie which made reading it a good experience. Without letting on too much, there is a "Laconia Incident", when the boat crashes to the bottom near Gibralter, a British DD does a victory lap (WHY DIDNT THEY PUT THAT IN THE MOVIE???) over the spot they sank, Johan is not the one flakes out during the depth-charge attack, their port of call is St. Nazaire not LaRochelle. Bucheim also explains why they have to go to Gibralter - someone has to stop the flow of supplies to Montgomery, Rommel is forced to retreat becuase he doesnt have enough of his. The book also explains why the airplane that attacks in the dark was able to do it. I think I've spoiled it enough, hopefully you'll go out and read the book now.
One last thing; I came away with a more positive impression of the Captain. I thought he was clever and very capable in the movie but in the book I am more impressed. He is always in control of things, hardly ever taken by surprise. He's also cautious enough to anticipate the British tricks, whereas in the movie sudden enemy tactics take him by surprise. Granted, he is quick to react and gets them out of danger, but in the book he sees them coming. Some of these tricks you actually see them doing, whereas in the movie they talk about them. I wont let on what that is, I've spoiled it enough.
All in all, its one of he best naval books, or war books I have ever read.
ReallyDedPoet
07-21-07, 05:55 PM
Saw the movie ( many times ), never read the book, need to :yep:
RDP
Jimbuna
07-21-07, 05:57 PM
The book is a 'crackin' read :rock: :up:
ReallyDedPoet
07-21-07, 06:02 PM
The book is a 'crackin' read :rock: :up:
Yes, from the sounds of it, a level of detail not in the movie , even one as great as Das Boot .
RDP
MobyGrape
07-21-07, 06:12 PM
Has extra events before rtb
Dimitrius07
07-21-07, 06:28 PM
The book also explains why the airplane that attacks in the dark was able to do it.
If you wach the uncut version - there are a scene when u96 return home and the crew in command room talking about that. I don`t remember how acctually sad that but i quote "The British develope a new system wich can detect surface ships" The captaine replyed "And they use thise system on us".
Now its preety much easy to understand that they talk about a early war radar system :ping: :dead:
SmokinTep
07-21-07, 06:45 PM
The book was great........
Puster Bill
07-21-07, 06:55 PM
The book was tangier than the movie...
sunvalleyslim
07-21-07, 08:57 PM
loved them both.........
Subnuts
07-21-07, 10:10 PM
a British DD does a victory lap (WHY DIDNT THEY PUT THAT IN THE MOVIE???) over the spot they sank,
This is depicted in the uncut version of the movie.
Bucheim also explains why they have to go to Gibralter - someone has to stop the flow of supplies to Montgomery, Rommel is forced to retreat becuase he doesnt have enough of his.
The narration in the uncut version also explains this.
The book also explains why the airplane that attacks in the dark was able to do it. I think I've spoiled it enough, hopefully you'll go out and read the book now.
...This is also explained in the uncut version.
Seriously, watch the uncut version if you ever get a chance. There's a lot of great character moments in it that got cut out of the shorter versions.
UnterseeBoogeyMan
07-21-07, 10:50 PM
Seriously, watch the uncut version if you ever get a chance. There's a lot of great character moments in it that got cut out of the shorter versions.
Fair enough on that, but I did buy the 'Director's Cut' with 60 minutes of additional footage. It rocks but I didnt see any references to what you mentioned. Maybe there's even more they dont put out there for the DVDs they release in the U.S.
I do have to say that with the 'Director's Cut' it adds a lot to the DD attack after their convoy strike. They portray that there really is a Hunter-Killer group vectoring on the Boat whereas in the first version put out on HBO back in the 80s you dont get this.
I'm reading it now, slowly to enjoy it better. Now I'm during convoy attack. Played my Directors Cut to see how it goes along with the book and it's quite good, but the book gives soooo much more immersion, you can feel it, see how it all worked, how it was done, what they were thinking.
Long desc. of weather, the sea, eating (I'm always hungry), holding your breath, jokes among the crew and long moment of contemplation and boredom... you cant show all that in the movie. Worth of every 650 pages. Red October book was also far better.
Just a word of caution though ... it's rated XXX!:lol:
Iron Budokan
07-22-07, 06:35 AM
The book isn't too bad. The author draws upon a lot of his own war experiences and includes them in the text. The writing was okay, but that may have been an effect of the translation I read.
Tontoman
07-22-07, 09:11 AM
Seriously, watch the uncut version if you ever get a chance. There's a lot of great character moments in it that got cut out of the shorter versions.
Fair enough on that, but I did buy the 'Director's Cut' with 60 minutes of additional footage. It rocks but I didnt see any references to what you mentioned. Maybe there's even more they dont put out there for the DVDs they release in the U.S.
I do have to say that with the 'Director's Cut' it adds a lot to the DD attack after their convoy strike. They portray that there really is a Hunter-Killer group vectoring on the Boat whereas in the first version put out on HBO back in the 80s you dont get this.
The Director's Cut is still not the full version. Full version has ANOTHER 90 min of footage, 5 hours of glory :rotfl: . The original version was a 5 hour TV mini-series.
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Original-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001XAOLQ
Cheers,
T.
Jimbuna
07-22-07, 09:51 AM
Available for under a tenner remember :up:
UnterseeBoogeyMan
07-22-07, 10:47 AM
Seriously, watch the uncut version if you ever get a chance. There's a lot of great character moments in it that got cut out of the shorter versions.
Fair enough on that, but I did buy the 'Director's Cut' with 60 minutes of additional footage. It rocks but I didnt see any references to what you mentioned. Maybe there's even more they dont put out there for the DVDs they release in the U.S.
I do have to say that with the 'Director's Cut' it adds a lot to the DD attack after their convoy strike. They portray that there really is a Hunter-Killer group vectoring on the Boat whereas in the first version put out on HBO back in the 80s you dont get this.
The Director's Cut is still not the full version. Full version has ANOTHER 90 min of footage, 5 hours of glory :rotfl: . The original version was a 5 hour TV mini-series.
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Original-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001XAOLQ
Cheers,
T.
Awesome! thank you very much, I cant get enough of Das Boot!
UnterseeBoogeyMan
07-22-07, 10:49 AM
Just a word of caution though ... it's rated XXX!:lol:
That Ario sure is a raunchy dude! Pilgrim makes it a wholesome story too :o
Ryan9118
07-23-07, 02:20 AM
Was making an order of books to Amazon anyways, so I put Das Boot on my order. Hope to get it later this week sometime. :rock:
Should've ordered the movie too....
Canovaro
07-23-07, 05:36 AM
I'm reading the book in my own language, it is a very interesting read. I also have the uncut dvd, still waiting for an movie estafette evening with my brothers so we all can enjoy.
Is the movie just as foul mouthed as the book? want to know if i can let my wife watch it ;)
Jimbuna
07-23-07, 05:54 AM
I'm reading the book in my own language, it is a very interesting read. I also have the uncut dvd, still waiting for an movie estafette evening with my brothers so we all can enjoy.
Is the movie just as foul mouthed as the book? want to know if i can let my wife watch it ;)
The movie should be fine for your wife mate :yep:
My wife loves the movie and she definately doesn't like foulmouthed language.:yep:
Canovaro
07-23-07, 07:14 AM
Good, excellent! :up:
Is the movie just as foul mouthed as the book? want to know if i can let my wife watch it ;)
Well, if she can get past the scenes at the beginning with sailors pissing on the captain's windscreen and the one with Thomsen lying drunk in its own puke in the toilet and "not in a condition to *******", then she'll be fine with the rest :D
Jimbuna
07-23-07, 08:18 AM
Is the movie just as foul mouthed as the book? want to know if i can let my wife watch it ;)
Well, if she can get past the scenes at the beginning with sailors pissing on the captain's windscreen and the one with Thomsen lying drunk in its own puke in the toilet and "not in a condition to *******", then she'll be fine with the rest :D
:roll: ....:nope: There's nothing to be seen anyway :dead: you naughty minute you :D
Summing it up: The wife can watch the movie but not read the book, unless you want to wear it!!:lol:
Summing it up: The wife can watch the movie but not read the book, unless you want to wear it!!:lol:
Imagine the book without all those intensive and detailed stories :rotfl:
Canovaro
07-23-07, 09:14 AM
Is the movie just as foul mouthed as the book? want to know if i can let my wife watch it ;)
Well, if she can get past the scenes at the beginning with sailors pissing on the captain's windscreen and the one with Thomsen lying drunk in its own puke in the toilet and "not in a condition to *******", then she'll be fine with the rest :D
I think she will be fine then :)
Is the movie just as foul mouthed as the book? want to know if i can let my wife watch it ;)
Well, if she can get past the scenes at the beginning with sailors pissing on the captain's windscreen and the one with Thomsen lying drunk in its own puke in the toilet and "not in a condition to *******", then she'll be fine with the rest :D
I think she will be fine then :)
There even is room for some romance in the movie.....albeit very little.
My wife watched the whole uncut version with me....she found it very exciting, although she was very much saddened by the brutal end of the movie.
UnterseeBoogeyMan
07-23-07, 04:55 PM
Was making an order of books to Amazon anyways, so I put Das Boot on my order. Hope to get it later this week sometime. :rock:
Should've ordered the movie too....
I had to get it backordered. took me 2 months but well worth the wait.
Wouldn't that be "Das Buche?"
red_one
07-23-07, 10:10 PM
The english audio is a lot cleaner than the english subtitles!
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