World of Warcraft

[kiwi_2005]

Am i about to sign my life away, will i ever see daylight again:hmm: Ive heard so much about WOW how addictive it can be and read a few blogs on ex WOW players telling how they lost their girlfriends, jobs and started to smell bad after months of playing this game practically non stop. 8 million players, two expansions and still going strong.
Ive played ArenaNets Guildwars to death since it came out in 2005, clocked the main campaign 4 times with different characters, loaded up a new character the other night and realize enoughs enough, I need another mmorpg to play.

WOW only $25 now so i just ordered it today.

Anyone here play WOW - please share with us your sad life :D

[Rilder]

I played it about 4 months and got to level 40... just a huge grind fest that I couldn't stand. :-?

[NeonSamurai]

I played it for about six months. Be warned the grind is unreal and never ending, and the level grind but a small part of it. Grinding for items and equipment, grinding rank in the pvp arena. All you realy do in this game is grind. I couldnt stand it so i droped it (i would have droped it earlier but my gf who was very into it insisted i didnt). If you like repeditive mindless grinding, this game is for you.

[kiwi_2005]

I played it for about six months. Be warned the grind is unreal and never ending, and the level grind but a small part of it. Grinding for items and equipment, grinding rank in the pvp arena. All you realy do in this game is grind. I couldnt stand it so i droped it (i would have droped it earlier but my gf who was very into it insisted i didnt). If you like repeditive mindless grinding, this game is for you.
:yep: Im a sucker for these types of gameplay - thats all you do in Guildwars you play endlessly to get the best armor then when you got it you head out to the nearest city and stand around like a dork showing off your new piece of equipment. Your so cool, on an adrenline rush, then someone will come stand next to you who has better armor, shattered off you go into the wild in search of it... for another 6 months.:roll: :rotfl:

[Reaves]

The differance is that guild wars doesn't have a monthly fee.

I played Everquest back in the day and enjoyed it but now when I play EQ2 or WOW I just get sick of doing meaningless tasks over and over again when i'm paying for it each month.

See the ww2online thread for a good MMO to play. Otherwise stick with guildwars or get NWN2. There should be some nice servers for that by now.

[HunterICX]

World of Warcraft

A game I will never touch.

1. it sensless..mostly the quests are repeative.
2. the money you spend on the montly fee I could use in better ways
3. you fellow players mostly are over addicted childish persons.

just my thoughts.

[ajrimmer42]

I played it for a few months but got a bit bored after that. not been on it since. Im kinda thinking about giving it another go.

Edited to remove reference to private servers which are not exactly legal. NeonSamurai

[Dowly]

ajrimmer, your sig looks awfully familiar... hmm.. where the feck I've seen it... :hmm:

Oh yeh! At D*******.com!! :p

[kiwi_2005]

Just got WOW in the post this morning, installing now, 5gigs hell, Guildwars was 700mb but would update as you played. Does this game update as you play or updates monthly.

Reading the manual im overwhelmed by which character i should try. Im thinking Alliance - Paladin or a dwarf.?

[ajrimmer42]

Edited to remove reference to private servers which are not exactly legal. NeonSamurai
Actually, as far as i am aware private servers arent illegal, although they are generally frowned upon by Blizzard. However, I apologise if i am wrong.

[Safe-Keeper]

I'm a Galaxies veteran and found it utterly unimpressive. Nothing new that I could see, and the ability to build yourself a house, start stores to sell stuff, build bases and so on was gone. NPCs were all over the place, too, where there sohuld've been a greater number of players (in Galaxies, most or all trading of weapons, etc. was between players via databanks in-game.

I played neither game for very long, but honestly, I think it sold well only due to its Warcraft name, and that most fans never have played an MMORPG before in their lives. I also found this review (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000067FDW/sr=8-2/qid=1185054287/ref=cm_rev_sort/104-8716820-1204748?customer-reviews.sort_by=byExactRating_1&x=12&y=11&s=videogames) by Brightside disturbing. In fact, I found several of them disturbing.

PS: I wouldn't recommend playing Galaxies either, now that every second player is a Jedi in a game universe that was not supposed to have a single one of them.

[Lagger123987]

ajrimmer, your sig looks awfully familiar... hmm.. where the feck I've seen it... :hmm:

Oh yeh! At D*******.com!! :p

Dowly, Do you mind if you can remove the * so I can see what this site is about?

[Dowly]

ajrimmer, your sig looks awfully familiar... hmm.. where the feck I've seen it... :hmm:

Oh yeh! At D*******.com!! :p
Dowly, Do you mind if you can remove the * so I can see what this site is about?

NO :p

[Boris]

I've lost many a friend to WOW, and heard of many others too. It replaces real life for the most part, subsituting all real social interactions. Give it up while it's not too late :yep:

[d@rk51d3]

ajrimmer?

would that be..... Arnold Judas Rimmer?:hmm:

Boys from the dwarf!:rock: :rock: :rock:

[TheBrauerHour]

Yeah, I had a friend that played COD2 with me, and then he tried WoW....and I never see him. That said, when Pirates of The Burning Sea comes out, I will be lost to that.

[kiwi_2005]

Hey there was a choice of North American or Oceanic, i chose NA, does it really matter which one? Anyways great game, graphics are pretty cartoony, but this is overlooked once you enter and start playing, seeing other players doing their thing in the game is pretty cool, i died twice last night lol raided a cave and got owned helping another player.
Been a Guildwars player since 2005 i shouldn't compare WOW with GW yet being only a level 6, but theirs something about this game.
In GW you only interact with other players when you do a co-op mission otherwise your on your own with henchies, in WOW your always with players running around. WOW has that social thing which is well done. I stood in awe at these level 70 Orc players last night standing around, dressed in elite looking armor, and i witness a raid by a level 70 player in another server with a nightelf character, this guy attacks our noob camp and practically takes us all out, including the quest givers! lol.
I joined the PVP servers cause i always want to have that fear that someone is going to attack me when out hunting :D

Great game!
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/Kiwi_Frank/Orc.jpg

[Rilder]

I said great game at first... then I got to level 30 ish... :-? I was on a pvp server also so leveling was hard... Tauren shaman.

[samniTe]

I finally gave wow a chance and its pretty fun. The trick is to play with your buddies over some kind of VOIP program. Me and 3 of my mates started characters and have been questing a lot together. Quite fun really. But I can imagine how it must suck playing alone

[NefariousKoel]

I've been playing fairly regularly for about 3 years now.

The biggest reasons I'm not burned out on the whole thing is making alts is always fun and most importantly - being in a guild with personal friends of mine & others I've gamed with for some time in the past.

I still take breaks both small and large at times so I'm not a total fiend. Besides, my attention span wouldn't allow me to starve myself to death over playing it.

[NeonSamurai]

In GW you only interact with other players when you do a co-op mission otherwise your on your own with henchies, in WOW your always with players running around. WOW has that social thing which is well done.
You might find you will grow tired of that, when dealing with camped money grinding spots, or trying to do a quest and being unable to because 20 other people are trying to do the exact same quest and camped all over the spawn areas making a quest that should take a few minutes take an hour or more. At least though most of the "dungeons" are instanced so you dont have to deal with that.


As for alts, heh i had piles of alts, i never actualy reached 60 with any character in the 7 months i played, i had the max number of alts allowed on the server (on 2 different servers) with a combined level of around 400+ In the end the class i liked best was the druid, just because of the variation of play style available to that class. Though people trying to force me to be a heal bot ticked me off (i was feral spec)

[kiwi_2005]

I can see why your sucked into the gameplay tho, its repetitive questing like any other mmorpg i suppose, hrs tick by next thing you know 10hrs later & the suns coming up. In Guildwars your get a nice message coming up reminding you have been playing for over 2 hrs please take a break. I notice this warning is absent from wow.

Im taking a break from wow every 2nd day, othewise i can see myself playing this every minute of my daytime and night. While im typeing this im thinking of ways of leveling up my character :rotfl:The gameworld is massive in wow thats one thing that actually frighten me, i love to run around and explore in these type of games, i better get that idea out of my head as it would take me years to explore the whole of WOW. Guildwars world is tiny compare to wow.

Hate to say it but it is a GREAT GAME ive met alot of ppl in the cities that aren't young either alot in the 30+ age group, one guy who char is lvl 60 Dwarf is 67 been playing it since it came out. :)

[NeonSamurai]

Honestly i wouldnt call the WoW realm massive, SWG was massive (though mostly empty). Exploring is fun though :)

As for the warnings, they arnt there because Blizzard wants addicts, who will keep playing, paying, and especialy those that own 3 copies for alts and mules. Repetition is what makes it addictive. People keep playing to get that last set piece or other object, or that next rank in pvp, then a new and better set comes out so they spend months doing raids to get it, etc.

One thing that always troubled me with the MMO games is how carefully they are designed to addict you and keep you addicted, spending massive amounts of time in these games at the expensive of a life, or even your health. There have been several deaths, and other severe illnesses connected with WoW because people were playing these games for days at a time forgetting to eat, sleep, exercise, etc.

If you look closely at WoW you can see how it addicts and why it is so successfull at doing it. First the game requires a massive commitment of time to get anywhere in it, second the game is repeditive to the extreme (and repeating the same thing especialy if the brain finds it pleasurable will quickly lead to an addiction just like any chemical substance), third it has endless goals to achive, there is always something to strive for, and never enough time to do it all which increases the time sink, this furthers the addiction. People get sucked into itm loose all sense after a while, spend more and more time in the game, and some even confuse it with reality.

Now of course this doesnt happen to everyone, but most wow players spend far too much time playing the game at the exclusion of everything else, mainly because of the time sink.

You might also find that for the first few months you think this is a truely great game, but after a while your opinion may change, when you have been basicly doing the same things for months.

[kiwi_2005]

Honestly i wouldnt call the WoW realm massive, SWG was massive (though mostly empty). Exploring is fun though :)

As for the warnings, they arnt there because Blizzard wants addicts, who will keep playing, paying, and especialy those that own 3 copies for alts and mules. Repetition is what makes it addictive. People keep playing to get that last set piece or other object, or that next rank in pvp, then a new and better set comes out so they spend months doing raids to get it, etc.

One thing that always troubled me with the MMO games is how carefully they are designed to addict you and keep you addicted, spending massive amounts of time in these games at the expensive of a life, or even your health. There have been several deaths, and other severe illnesses connected with WoW because people were playing these games for days at a time forgetting to eat, sleep, exercise, etc.

If you look closely at WoW you can see how it addicts and why it is so successfull at doing it. First the game requires a massive commitment of time to get anywhere in it, second the game is repeditive to the extreme (and repeating the same thing especialy if the brain finds it pleasurable will quickly lead to an addiction just like any chemical substance), third it has endless goals to achive, there is always something to strive for, and never enough time to do it all which increases the time sink, this furthers the addiction. People get sucked into itm loose all sense after a while, spend more and more time in the game, and some even confuse it with reality.

Now of course this doesnt happen to everyone, but most wow players spend far too much time playing the game at the exclusion of everything else, mainly because of the time sink.

You might also find that for the first few months you think this is a truely great game, but after a while your opinion may change, when you have been basicly doing the same things for months.
Well said. I'll keep that in mind.

Saw some funny things happen tonight, was in the Crossroads township (The Barrens) sitting down with my pet watching ppl have one on one fights, this guy comes up to me and asks me for a pet v pet challenge, well i couldn't see the point as my pet was lvl15 and his lvl22. But still i accepted his challenge, of course my pet died, might add he faught bravely right to his last breath. The guy then gives me an axe which was a few levels high before i can use it but had good hit points, then raves on how his pet is uber.:roll:
Then he asks this lvl 25 Tauren to challenge his pet, the Tauren accepts and the fight is on, actually it was quite a good fight, the Tauren was hitting him with spells then changing to animal form, then back to humaniod, pulls out his sword, then back to spells, he was putting on a good show, then just when he was about to win and kill the pet the pet owner Zaps him with some spell and down goes the Tauren :rotfl:Talk about dodgy tatics, and yeah the Tauren wasn't at all happy.

Along comes this skinny little elf female jumping around like a grasshopper who totally owns this Orc warrior. She was 2 lvls higher than him but that shouldn't really matter well so i thought, not only that but he challenges her 3 times and 3 times she beats him. :rotfl:

The poor guy left after that.

And thats the latest news on the noobs in wow :D

[Rilder]

Yes barrens, is, argubly the worst place in WoW....

[robbo180265]

Been playing for a few weeks now-love it!

Sure beats the arguments in our genral forum:up: If you're ever in Bronze Dragonflight look me up.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/robbo180265/balvennie.jpg

[kiwi_2005]

Im thinking of starting up another character I wanna try out the dawfs as a warrior, I'll look ya up if i ever do :up:

[NefariousKoel]

Bah!

Hordes have more fun.:yep:

[Rilder]

Plus warriors are a pain to level up. If you do make a alliance charactor make a paladin. :p

[kiwi_2005]

Last night i tried out a Dwarf warrior got to lvl 8 then gave up. What i dont like is when your trying to lure the enemy. With my Orc hunter i would get close then use my bow, while they running towards me command by pet to attack while i take them out with bow or axe if they get close. Warrior you have to get up close, this is suppose to happen tho, but unless you have a group to join and do it together then its a slog doing it alone with each mob.

Hunter anyday!

[robbo180265]

Last night i tried out a Dwarf warrior got to lvl 8 then gave up. What i dont like is when your trying to lure the enemy. With my Orc hunter i would get close then use my bow, while they running towards me command by pet to attack while i take them out with bow or axe if they get close. Warrior you have to get up close, this is suppose to happen tho, but unless you have a group to join and do it together then its a slog doing it alone with each mob.

Hunter anyday!

Yeah that's why I play as a rogue. It allows me to sneak up behind the enemy and attack from behind.Also I play with a few of my friends here in Brighton, everything's easier when you're in a party;)

When I'm on my own I normaly sneak past a lot of the enemies and get the goodies without getting smegged

[kiwi_2005]

Last night i tried out a Dwarf warrior got to lvl 8 then gave up. What i dont like is when your trying to lure the enemy. With my Orc hunter i would get close then use my bow, while they running towards me command by pet to attack while i take them out with bow or axe if they get close. Warrior you have to get up close, this is suppose to happen tho, but unless you have a group to join and do it together then its a slog doing it alone with each mob.

Hunter anyday!
Yeah that's why I play as a rogue. It allows me to sneak up behind the enemy and attack from behind.Also I play with a few of my friends here in Brighton, everything's easier when you're in a party;)

When I'm on my own I normaly sneak past a lot of the enemies and get the goodies without getting smegged
I got owned by a rogue last night he challenge me for a fight i thought yeah why not i should be able to deal to him with the bow then my pet can get up close and rip him to shreads, but he went invisible so my pet couldn't attack nor could i get him with the bow so had to try fight him up close, only to die :oops:

First Rogue ive seen do that they're pretty cool.

[Reaves]

I got owned by a rogue last night he challenge me for a fight i thought yeah why not i should be able to deal to him with the bow then my pet can get up close and rip him to shreads, but he went invisible so my pet couldn't attack nor could i get him with the bow so had to try fight him up close, only to die :oops:

First Rogue ive seen do that they're pretty cool.
When I played my brother always went Rogue. The trick in a 1 on 1 fight with them is to keep moving and not let them get behind you to do their back stab attack (or whatever the stealth attack is called.)

When they go invisible, don't stand still. ;)

-this was some time ago though.

[kiwi_2005]

When I played my brother always went Rogue. The trick in a 1 on 1 fight with them is to keep moving and not let them get behind you to do their back stab attack (or whatever the stealth attack is called.)

When they go invisible, don't stand still. ;)

-this was some time ago though.

I see, will try that next time. :up:

[NeonSamurai]

As a hunter you should be able to destroy rogues (depending on your level), hunters are pretty much the anti rogue class with their anti stealth abilities and pet

[kiwi_2005]

Okay changed tactics.
When attacking send pet then start strafting in circles while firing bow using main skills
-Concussive shot, Arcane shot, Serpent Shot & Distracting shot. im running rings around him going left & right & repeat then when hes down to approx 30% health i get up close and finish him off with the axe i just picked up from a drop "Grunt Axe of Agility" which is a lifesaver!. And must remeber to enable Aspect of the Hawk which last 30min.

Straight forward attack: set Immolation Trap start firing away with no strafting by the time hes up close hes down to around 30% health, gets hit by the imolation trap, finish him off with few swings of the axe, sometimes having to use Raptor strike or blood fury axe skills depending how high lvl they are to kill him.

When one on one i have a bad habit of pulling out my axe and taking on some character that owns with heavy weapons like a warrior for instance. Instead of using my bow skills and staying back hitting him till hes low on health then use the axe to finish him off. But no i would rush him and try to down him with an axe, not a good idea against a warrior plus they have better armor.

Must remeber to stop playing my hunter like if hes some warrior:damn:

Im doing that "Consumed by hatred" quest in Taurajo, great place for green drops.

[NeonSamurai]

Big one is hunter's mark.

Hunter's Mark - Places the Hunter's Mark on the target, increasing the Ranged Attack Power of all attackers against that target by X. In addition, the target of this ability can always be seen by the Hunter, even if it stealths or turns invisible. The target also appears on the mini-map. Lasts for Y min. This is very useful for pointing out which target the group should attack. It's also useful in Player vs. Player fights. =] This ability dispels itself if the Hunter dies.

this one also helps

Flare - Exposes all hidden and invisible enemies within X yards of the targeted area for Y sec.

As i said they are the ultimate rogue killing class, they can counter their stealth, that plus ranged attacks and a pet (rogues dont do to well fighting 2 things at once)

[Steel_Tomb]

I've got a level 66 night elf druid, and really like the game. Saying that, I'm taking a break from it to play EVE online for a while. Its a great game don't get me wrong, but I feel like I need a break because the game gets very tedious when you need 700,000xp to level (and get a max of 1500xp per kill with rest xp). Look at EVE if your interested in space mmo's as they do a 14 day free trial.

[TheBrauerHour]

I am going a different route and waiting for PotBS.

www.burningsea.com (http://www.burningsea.com)

Can't wait for this MMO...as it actually has a historical aspect to it. Game is in closed beta.

[samniTe]

blood elf paladin FTW !

[Blacklight]

I tried WoW for a few weeks. Being a vetran City of Heroes and Ultima Online player, I found the player interface in WoW to be VERY clunky. They REALLY need to streamline that interface, especially for using the chat channels.

So far, I havn't found a MMO out there that in any way equals Ultima Online in the sheer amounts of stuff you can do. I mean, I have two houses there, fully deccorated, and several ships for piracy and just going fishing !

Oh.. and name another game where you can get together with your guild, go to the deepest level of the scariest, most evil dungeon, set up tables, and have a bake sale (Yes.. my guild did this as a fundraiser once.)
It was really funny.. people were running past us being chased by dragons and litch lords and we're standing there behind our tables yelling "COOKIES !!! CUPCAKES !!! KEEP YOUR STRENGTH UP !!! DELICIOUS FOOD !!"

[TigerOmega]

I've been playing WOW for 2 years and it is a blast. The best way to play is join a guild asap. In a guild you can organize raids and do instances. At lvl 70 you can get your own flying mount which is about the best way to travel. Only downside is you to have the expansion pack (BC). If a guild isn't you cup of tea there are always lots of players to team up with or go it alone. I've tried all the free demo MMO's and none compare to WOW. Just my opinion and 2 cents worth.

[kiwi_2005]

I've been playing WOW for 2 years and it is a blast. The best way to play is join a guild asap. In a guild you can organize raids and do instances. At lvl 70 you can get your own flying mount which is about the best way to travel. Only downside is you to have the expansion pack (BC). If a guild isn't you cup of tea there are always lots of players to team up with or go it alone. I've tried all the free demo MMO's and none compare to WOW. Just my opinion and 2 cents worth.

Im with a Guild, no where near 70 yet, lvl 31 Orc/Hunter, but yes great game, im in my 4th week and loving it, the graphics i found having to get use to, too comical for me, but now it dont matter and i suppose Blizzard wanted to keep to the warcraft series how the gaphics are like they are. What i like about this game theirs always someone online that wants to help out in a quest or needing help in a quest, nothing makes me feel better than running in the barrens & come across a player that is in dire need of help, where i'll help him out, kinda like you just saved him from death :lol: And they appreciate it. One time i was into my 4th hour of trying to complete this quest, i had to first take out the camp which was the hardest part i was ready to give up and try later when this lvl 70 comes galopping in on his horse, and takes out everyone in the camp then runs off. I was then able to finish the quest thanks to him.:up:
Oh and the fear of being attack by the opposite side which is alliance for me is like another buzz to the game.