World's largest nuclear reactor leaking contaminated water

[The Avon Lady]

Stay tuned (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070716/sc_nm/quake_japan_nuclear_radiation_dc_1). :cry:

[Dowly]

:nope:

[SUBMAN1]

How big was this quake?? My USGS snap in is showing a 5.8 off Honshu. That is not a strong quake. If that nuke is not built to take at least a 9.0, then they need to shut it down and redesign immediately!

-S

[SUBMAN1]

This is what I am reporting:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4208/quakesjg8.jpg


Actually, these may be aftershocks. I am also seeing 6.7 and 6.8. Still not huge. Just strong enough to see some movement.

-S

[Tchocky]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6901213.stm

BBC has the strength at 6.8, 5.8 aftershocks. Isn't the Richter scale geometric?

[geetrue]

They must not be telling the whole story with black smoke coming out of a transformer too.

That's not Japan's only problem ... Someday they have to tell the world the biggest kept secret that they have already developed the atomic bomb and have several stored somewhere.

[Tchocky]

It seems that the transformer caught fire at first, geetrue.

[SUBMAN1]

They must not be telling the whole story with black smoke coming out of a transformer too.

That's not Japan's only problem ... Someday they have to tell the world the biggest kept secret that they have already developed the atomic bomb and have several stored somewhere.

And the point is? So what if they have a couple bombs? Not a big deal.

I'd be a bit shocked though if you told me they have several thousand!

-S

[geetrue]

Just a picture and a short story ... The quake was strong enough to cause visable damage ... we'll have to wait for damage control to report the rest, uh?

[Heibges]

Nuclear Power and Earthquakses don't mix. :D

I'm not a big fan of nuclear power in general, and Califlornia has one practically right on the fault line. And building in a place called Diablo Canyon, is just pushing your luck. :D

http://www.pge.com/education_training/about_energy/diablo_canyon/

[Nightmare]

There aren’t many details released yet, and we just don’t know the severity. Chances are the leak is still contained in the containment building and that the general public hasn’t been exposed to anything.

To help put things in prospective, during Three Mile Island meltdown, the stuck pressure release valve (main cause of the accident next to operator error) dumped tons of contaminated water into the tanks, bilges, and even onto the floor of the containment building. All of that water was contained and posed no health risk to those outside of the plant.

[Nightmare]

It looks like they did leak some of the contaminated water out into the Sea of Japan. However it's such a small amount it won't ever harm anybody, 315 gallons of water with contamination at a billionth of the allowable under the law.
Part of article found here (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/07/16/japan.quake.ap/index.html)
Uchino said the water contained a tiny amount of radioactive material -- a billionth of the guideline under Japanese law -- and is believed to have flushed into the Sea of Japan.

A company statement said the leak had stopped and that there had been no "significant change" in the seawater under surveillance and no effect on the environment.

[tycho102]

They must not be telling the whole story with black smoke coming out of a transformer too.
That's half of it.

Heavy-water reactors have a containment pool specifically for the tritium in the primary loop. Tritium is only in the primary loop.

Now, if someone starts dropping MOABs on the reactor building, then you're going to get a leak in the primary loop. And those same MOABs may crack the 3 meter thick re-enforced concrete containment pool which is made specifically to stop a tritium leak. You can have a loop leak and the tritium is captured in the housing as designed. It's also possible to crack that pool and the expansion foam such that the tritium actually escapes into the earth.

I seriously doubt, with a 6.8 earthquake, that the tritium escaped the containment pool. Japanese engineers planned for quakes of that magnitude. That's why I hate all the fear mongering by the media. There's more than one kind of tritium leak. There's more than one kind of heavy-water moderated reactor. There's more than one kind of pressurized water reactor. But they're all just referred to as a "nuclear power plant".

Barbara Striesand doesn't have a "home" or a "house"; she's got a "compound". She doesn't have a "car" or an "automobile", she's got a "class-4 armoured vehicle" or she's got a "Maserati GranTurismo". There a big f-ing difference to her. Or to Dick Cheney. Or Steve Jobs. And if you don't recognize their exceptional equity with popular terminology, then they're going to perceive you as an ignoramous (or just a low-life).


So when these wankers discuss Chernobyl and Three-Mile-Island and China Syndrome, and somehow manage to equate all of them with current nuclear engineering, I am nothing less than disgusted. Every single time.


edit-- Ok. That's probably a secondary loop leak in the turbine section, thus the involvement of a transformer. There is a tiny bit of deutritium and tritium formed in the secondary.

[geetrue]

Here's the rest of the story so far:
http://www.topix.net/content/ap/2007/07/nuke-waste-drums-tipped-in-japan-quake-7

I hope Japan is better at telling the truth than our country did after 9/11.

Remember when they said it wouldn't be a health problem. Lie, lie, lie ... well better luck Japan.

[moose1am]

Those are the smaller aftershocks that you are seeing in the mag 5 shocks. Yes it's a log scale. For each increase in whole numbers on the scale the magnitude of the quake is 10 times greater.

Only the core area of the nuclear reactors are designed for earth quakes. But the axillary equipment that helps run the nuclear power plant is vulnerable to earth quakes.

Many barrels filled with nuclear waste were overturned and leaked radiation all over the place.

This is warning to everyone that nuclear power plants are a disaster waiting to happen. And when they do spill radiation you might as well make that area a waste land for the next 10,000 years.

Nuclear energy and the waste it produces should not be the future of mankind.

We already have too many nuclear submarines sitting on the bottom of the ocean spewing out radiation now.

What do you think the consequences will be when we actually start going to war and ships start getting hit with missiles and their reactors spew radiation all over the oceans?

We are already using spent nuclear waste to process war when we shoot depleted uranium shells during times of war.

They must not be telling the whole story with black smoke coming out of a transformer too.

That's not Japan's only problem ... Someday they have to tell the world the biggest kept secret that they have already developed the atomic bomb and have several stored somewhere.

[The Avon Lady]

It's getting better all the time (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070718/ap_on_re_as/japan_quake;_ylt=AqZIWEGKAMgLes2g1FUd9JCs0NUE). :nope: