Overall Performance After 1.3 Patch?

[DarklyX]

:roll: I was wondering if people have noticed any performance improvements after installing the patch even if it is in beta. I remembered that this was one of the items that was going to be fixed when this patch was first announced.

Thanks.

[TDK1044]

However close the Beta was to the official release, I think in all fairnes, you'll have to judge it on 1.3 and not on the leaked Beta. Personally, I don't think you'll see a significant performance difference between 1.2 and 1.3

[SteamWake]

No mention of performance tweaks in the readme.

[John Channing]

And no mention of it in the post by Dan in which they outlined the things they were working on.

I doubt you will see any performance increase. On the other hand you won't see any decreases either!

JCC

[cunnutazzo]

I can see smoother fps in the leaked beta 1.3, although you can see huge explosions and convoys. No stutters at all. Ati driver 7.6.

[DarklyX]

I can see smoother fps in the leaked beta 1.3, although you can see huge explosions and convoys. No stutters at all. Ati driver 7.6.

What is your system?

[cunnutazzo]

What is your system?

athlon 4000+, X800 XL, 2 Gigs RAM.

[MONOLITH]

QUOTE:

The patch will be weeks away and not months.
A whole host of new features have been added – new data, rendering improvements, functionality improvements, and much more

[Jmack]

everyone talking about 1.3 after thoughts and performance ... and good things and bad things but ... for what i understand 1.3 its not out yet .... is it ?

[AkbarGulag]

Its not out yet Jmack. These guys/gals are talking about the 'BETA' 1.3. Just do as I do and wait for the official 1.3 release :know:

[John Channing]

QUOTE:

The patch will be weeks away and not months.
A whole host of new features have been added – new data, rendering improvements, functionality improvements, and much more

I believe (but I could be mistaken) that that refers to a few new higher rez 2-d screens (radar and sonar for instance).

JCC

[STEED]

Overall Performance After 1.3 Patch?

No idea as at this moment I am DL now. ;)

[MONOLITH]

I believe (but I could be mistaken) that that refers to a few new higher rez 2-d screens (radar and sonar for instance).

JCC

Ahhh..certainly could be. I just had noticed that line at the SH4 homepage, and thought maybe it was the reason people are claiming to be getting a 'smoother' game.

Guess we'll see for sure soon.

Coincidently I'm about to instal a PhysX card, which is supposed to improve FPS even on games that do not use Ageia Physx by taking some of the processing load off the VPU.

I'll post results after.

[Jmack]

ok ... i have the official patch 1.3 now ... the first good thing i noticed is that it works without the dvd on the drive the fps is worst than ever ... !!!! on my computer and i was able to run it pretty decently before. anyway this is just a rushed first impression

[John Channing]

If you did the "Dev debug" fix the patch undoes it. You will have to fix it again. It really does seem to improve FPS.

Unless you have a marginal system... then you may have a problem.

JCC

[Jmack]

dev debug ? ... now you got me :o whats that ?

[John Channing]

Hang on... I'll be right back.

JCC

OK... I'm back. I just had to find a post I made the oher day.

Go to C:Program Files/Ubisoft//Sh4/Data/Cfg/Main.

Look for...

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes


and change to ...

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No


This is one of those tweaks you read about that actually sems to work!

JCC

[ReM]

Hang on... I'll be right back.

JCC

OK... I'm back. I just had to find a post I made the oher day.

Go to C:Program Files/Ubisoft//Sh4/Data/Cfg/Main.

Look for...

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=Yes
DevEditEnable=Yes
MiniDump=Yes

and change to ...

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No


This is one of those tweaks you read about that actually sems to work!

JCC

I'll try it, but what does it do?

[Jmack]

for me it did nothing ... fps still sucks ...

[John Channing]

for me it did nothing ... fps still sucks ...

What kind of system do you have?

JCC

[miner1436]

feels the same as 1.2

[Marko_Ramius]

I think you must do it too into the save folder in "my Documents/SH3" . I may be wrong though..

[Jmack]

i have ... a dual core 6400 2.14ghz
2048mb ddr ram
geforce 7300 gt 512mb

its not the worlds greatest but it should run it
in fact it did ... but now it doenst

[azn_132]

i have ... a dual core 6400 2.14ghz
2048mb ddr ram
geforce 7300 gt 512mb

its not the worlds greatest but it should run it
in fact it did ... but now it doenst

2.14Ghz? Or 2.4Ghz? might be dat.

[PepsiCan]

i have ... a dual core 6400 2.14ghz
2048mb ddr ram
geforce 7300 gt 512mb

its not the worlds greatest but it should run it
in fact it did ... but now it doenst

Hi

I had the same issue. After 1.3, it wouldn't run. Turns out that I was the cause of it. My save games contained some 1.2 files I had put there that made the game crash as soon as I wanted to start running a training mission or save game. Here's what I did.

- deinstall SH4
- check that all folders (including the SH4 folder under My Documents) are gone and deleted
- restart your PC
- install SH4 from DVD
- restart your pc
- install patch 1.3 (it is cummulative, so it includes 1.1 and 1.2)
- restart your pc
- run the game

I know, you lose your save games this way, but it runs.

- insert the necessary mods.

Hope this helps.

[SteamWake]

Just a little feedback.

1.3 downloaded quickly, installed without a hitch, and performs quite nicely. No problems here.

I did not notice any difference in FPS.

[Saintaw]

I noticed an FPS drop, but am not sure if this had something to do with me running the 'TM' mod before (it has things like 'no grainy effect' that might have led to better performance)

I now disabled environmental fog & post process... and upped the resolution to 1280/1024 ... looks nice enough, and runs smoothly.

Amd 64 2.4 Ghz
X800 AGP
2GB Ram

[stabiz]

No probs in 1.3.

[Nightmare]

I've only had a couple hours to mess with the latest patch so far. As far as performance I've seen a big decline in performance coming out of Pearl (might be due to the wrecked battleships). I'm seeing FPS is the mid 20's to low 30's in harbor (used to be mid 40's in 1.2). I've noticed the spray from the props causes big FPS loss in external cam which wasn't the case in 1.2. In open ocean and attacking a small convoy yielded about the same frame rate. However the spray from the torpedos when they hit also caused FPS loss as well.

I did a complete uninstall, reinstall, and patch directly to 1.3. All graphics and sound setting set exactly as they were from 1.2 and I'm running 1200x960 4xAA and 8x AF (same as before). Running most current Nvidia drivers.

Overall I'm happy with the patch. Slightly disappointed in the degrade in performance though.

Specs:
Core2Duo 6600 @ 2.4Ghz
2 gigs DDR2 800
8800GTS 320Mb
Sound Blaster X-Fi ExtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional

[cunnutazzo]

I can see smoother fps in the leaked beta 1.3, although you can see huge explosions and convoys. No stutters at all. Ati driver 7.6.
smoother fps running official 1.3.

[DimDoms]

I've only had a couple hours to mess with the latest patch so far. As far as performance I've seen a big decline in performance coming out of Pearl (might be due to the wrecked battleships). I'm seeing FPS is the mid 20's to low 30's in harbor (used to be mid 40's in 1.2). I've noticed the spray from the props causes big FPS loss in external cam which wasn't the case in 1.2. In open ocean and attacking a small convoy yielded about the same frame rate. However the spray from the torpedos when they hit also caused FPS loss as well.

I did a complete uninstall, reinstall, and patch directly to 1.3. All graphics and sound setting set exactly as they were from 1.2 and I'm running 1200x960 4xAA and 8x AF (same as before). Running most current Nvidia drivers.

Overall I'm happy with the patch. Slightly disappointed in the degrade in performance though.

Specs:
Core2Duo 6600 @ 2.4Ghz
2 gigs DDR2 800
8800GTS 320Mb
Sound Blaster X-Fi ExtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional
I'm seeing the same thing in Pearl Harbor - I'm also seeing psychedelic colors all around, but that may be drivers/vista. I'm updating to the current drivers (I hope).

Here's hoping.

Dimd:ping:ms.

Edit: right, that didn't work. It speeds up when it has less objects, but then the acid hits me again.
I'll put it down to drivers, but I don't want to revert to XP!

Anybody else seeing these problems in Vista, nvidia 7800 GTX?

[minsc_tdp]

Coincidently I'm about to instal a PhysX card, which is supposed to improve FPS even on games that do not use Ageia Physx by taking some of the processing load off the VPU.

LOL save your money

Go read the reviews and benchmarks first. I don't think anyone has seen any performance increase on ANY game with this thing, including the PhysX supported games like GRAW, because when it detects the PhysX, it flips into an entirely different physics mode that is so complex, while it looks better, performance drops even more than using nothing at all.

There is currently no generalized way that I have ever heard of to "offload" work from the GPU.

[SHARKMEAT]

Where in the options of the game does it show the area to change the "AA" ?? . I'm running mine set to Override any application settings in my control panel setting. Running SH4 at 1600 x 1200 at 16 x Anisotropic Filtering and AA x 8. looks awesome......CHEERS
PS: Now if I could just play the game....:yep:

[Nightmare]

Where in the options of the game does it show the area to change the "AA" ?? . I'm running mine set to Override any application settings in my control panel setting. Running SH4 at 1600 x 1200 at 16 x Anisotropic Filtering and AA x 8. looks awesome......CHEERS
PS: Now if I could just play the game....:yep:
There is no option in game to change AA or AF. It all has to be done thru Nvidia Control Panel or ATI's equivalent.

[SHARKMEAT]

Where in the options of the game does it show the area to change the "AA" ?? . I'm running mine set to Override any application settings in my control panel setting. Running SH4 at 1600 x 1200 at 16 x Anisotropic Filtering and AA x 8. looks awesome......CHEERS
PS: Now if I could just play the game....:yep:
There is no option in game to change AA or AF. It all has to be done thru Nvidia Control Panel or ATI's equivalent.

Thx's for that info I figured that, I ask because I haven't had the game long enough to know anything........CHEERS

[ATR-42]

[DEVELOPING]

and change to ...

[DEVELOPING]
DevDebugEnable=No
DevEditEnable=No
MiniDump=No


This is one of those tweaks you read about that actually sems to work!

JCC

it sure does, thanks for reminding me of this! I had FPS jumping between 55-60 (split second fluctuations) after making this change its locked at 60 now.

[Jmack]

2.14Ghz? Or 2.4Ghz? might be dat.

its 2.14ghz ... not that good huh ... but i used the same before 1.3
and the game would run nicely.

im going after the sugestion and reinstall everything again

[kiwi_2005]

No problems here. New install of SH4 no mods, patch 1.3. Runs perfectly!.

in fact the game runs smoother now on 2nd pc that has lower specs than it did with patch 1.2.

Main PC
3500 Dual core
GFX GF7800 256
2gigs ram
Windows Vista Home

2nd PC
2600 AMD
2gigs ram
GFX GF 6600GT 128 ram
Windows Vista Ultimate
Running SH4 in window mode. Runs & looks better.

Running no mods.

[WilhelmTell]

For me it runs better than before 1.3, that's for sure.
I got an old system XP 2400, 1GB DDR333, GF 6800 GS 256mb.
I am happy with the patch ...

Regards,
Tell

[DedEye]

Definitely noticed a big FPS increase with 1.3; no more stuttering.

P4 3.0Ghz, 2gigs DDR, X800XT PE

[Antrodemus]

2.14Ghz? Or 2.4Ghz? might be dat.
its 2.14ghz ... not that good huh ... but i used the same before 1.3
and the game would run nicely.

im going after the sugestion and reinstall everything again
Jmack, didn't you say earlier that your CPU was an Intel 6400? If so, it isn't a Dual Core, but a Core2 Duo... big difference in power consumption and heat generation; i.e. less power and less heat, and improved performance overall. The Core2 Duo 6400 (2.14GHz) is a fantastic processor. Don't pay too much attention to clock speeds these days - they're rapidly becoming redundant where CPU performance is concerned. If anything, your 7300 GT is the bottleneck in your system. If you can afford it, dump it onto E-bay and get an nVidia 7950 / ATi X1900XT or above. Your sys will love you for it. :)

[Banquet]

I'm getting stuttering water in 1.3. I had this very occasionally in earlier versions after using time accel, but if I went back into time accel and back out again the water was fine. In 1.3 it's happening all the time.

Although the rest of the animations and FPS are ok the water stutters. I can't think of a way to explain it better than that. Just about any time I use time accel it happens!