Preserve the historic WW2 U-534 U-boat

[Orret]

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-and-preserve-the-historic-ww2-u-534-u-boat.html

Please Sign petition

[AVGWarhawk]

Done!

[Chock]

I was under the impression that the decision to preserve it had already been made by Mersey Ferries, as far as I'm aware it is going to be a tourist attraction at the Woodside Terminal.

Although, having said that, I'm not thrilled about their plans for displaying it, which amount to vandalism in my opinion. They will involve cutting it into three sections and putting transparent covers over the holes so that you can view inside the sections from a special platform. This is not going to be anywhere near as interesting as going into the thing in one piece and touring the inside, which was kind of the point for me, as well as seeing the thing on land to appreciate the shape of it.

If the petition is to prevent it from being cut up and displayed in this way, then I'm all for that!

Here is my comment I put on my petition signature: How dare they even contemplate cutting the boat up and displaying it like they plan to. I had the pleasure of touring U-534 at the Birkenhead Historic Warship Museum some years ago, and for me, the whole point was to actually see the thing in one piece to appreciate the shape, and then to go inside and appreciate the confined space in which her crew had to operate.
Why not just smash it to pieces instead you god-damned vandals? Cut her up, and I will never travel on one of your ferries again.


:D Chock

[gimpy117]

Bump*
lets keep it going

personally, cutting up a uboat is like hacking into a ferarri just to see how it works as compaired to the practice of cutting up a Balao sub, a ford tarus as compaired to a type 9

put shortly, cut up balaos are cool and all (and yes this happened often), but a thing like a U-boat is way to rare to not display as a whole..

[Jan7]

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I offer to all you a visit of the inside of U-534. A friend of ForumWA make it. I translate to Spanish for U-Historia.
Os ofrezco una visita a su interior que realizó un compañero del Foro WA y traduje del Inglés.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57373
TerryG Association Member 24-06-2004, 02:59 PM

I had posted some info about this sub last year I think but did not have any photos. Well I went back to see it once again and this time I took a camera. Bear in mind that the sub was in the water for 50 years or so. The inside has not been restored but left as found. On the outside, the tower and the periscope had been damaged by fishing nets so these were repaired as you can see by the different colours. I hope you enjoy these photos. If you are in the UK, this sub is on display in Birkenhead (not far from Liverpool if you are not sure where that is).
He posteado el año pasado bastante información acerca de este sumergible pero me he dado cuenta que no he hecho ninguna foto. Bien, he vuelto a verle una vez más y esta vez llevo conmigo una cámara. Tengo en mente que el buque ha estado en el agua 50 años o más. El interior no está siendo restaurado, y le encuentro peor que la primera vez que lo ví. En el exterior, la vela y el periscopio han sido dañados por redes de pesca por lo cual fueron reparados tal y como se ve por los diferentes colores. Espero que disfrutéis viendo estas fotos. Si estáis en el Reino Unido, este sumergible está expuesto en Birkenhead, no lejos de Liverpool, si no estáis seguros de donde está situado.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5695/laquilladelu534oz4.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7052/vistalateralqk4.jpg
Una vista general lateral

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Detalle de la vela

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1086/comienzalavisitabajandoporlaescotillaxk0.jpg
The visit starts via the forward torpedo loading hatch...As you can see the wooden decking is gone and obviously the railings are there for health and safety reasons
La visita comienza por la escotilla delantera de carga de los torpedos…..Así mismo podréis ver la plataforma de madera y obviamente las barandillas están colocadas como elementos de seguridad.

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View forward with some of the AA guns
Vista hacia proa con algunas de las AA –Ametralladoras Antiaéreas-

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2502/daosporcargasdeprofundidadhh7.jpg
This sub was depth charged and you can see the damage. All the German sailors managed to escape but a few died from exposure, heart attack, etc.. We were told that the Captain was taken into captivity and released in 1946 and then commited suicide..Does anyone know if this is correct?
Este sumergible fue dañado por cargas de profundidad y aquí podéis ver la muestra. Casi todos los marineros escaparon, pero unos pocos murieron por la exposición, ataques al corazón…..Oímos en las explicaciones que el capitán fue capturado y posteriormente liberado en 1946. Fue entonces cuando se suicidó. ¿Alguien sabe si esto es correcto?


http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/4646/2crucesencontradasabordoxw6.jpg
These Ek2's were found on board
Estas Cruces de Hierro fueron encontradas a bordo

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7851/unplatoendetalleuc2.jpg
The markings on a plate found on board
Las marcas de un plato encontrado a bordo

[Jan7]

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http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57373
TerryG Association Member 24-06-2004, 02:59 PM
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4352/tuboslanzatorpedosdeproabb9.jpg
The forward torpedo room with 4 tubes.
Los 4 tubos lanzatorpedos de proa

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6369/latrampillaenelsueloesladezonadebaterasnr5.jpgT The visit moves towards the rear of the sub. This is the next room along...can't remember The visit moves towards the rear of the sub. This is the next room along...can't remember what this was but you can see the access hatches on the floor to reach the batteries
La visita comienza alrededor de la parte trasera del sumergible. Se ve a lo largo la próxima sala…..no recuerdo cual era, pero se aprecian perfectamente en el suelo las escotillas de acceso para la inspección de las baterías.

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This is the galley. You can see the cooker and a few tins of food above it.
Esta es la cocina. Podéis ver las placas calentadoras y unas pocas cacerolas encima.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/844/lasaladelsonarch9.jpg
The sonar room
La sala del sónar

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8869/lasaladecontrolgp1.jpg
Still moving towards to rear, this is inside the main control room. We were told that the small contraption with the 2 small handles was the main direction controling device for the sub.
Continuamos moviéndonos hacia atrás, éste es el interior de la sala de control principal. El pequeño invento con las pequeñas empuñaduras son los dispositivos de control principales del sumergible.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2906/entreotrascosaselperiscopiovc0.jpg
Still inside the main control room, you can see the ladder leading to the tower and the periscopes and one of the way out. Up there is where the Captain would be to direct an attack. The outer shell of the tower only was rebuilt and is not part of the visit.
Seguimos en la sala principal de control, se puede ver una escalera que sube hacia la torreta y los periscopios y una de las salidas. Arriba es donde el Comandante debía estar para dirigir un ataque. La parte exterior de la torre sólo está reconstruida y no forma parte de la visita.

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We now come to the engine room, one on each side of the narrow gangway
Ahora entramos en la zona de los motores diesel, uno a cada lado del estrecho pasillo.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/423/lasaladebateraskn7.jpg
Now we come to the battery control room
Ahora estamos en la zona de control de las baterías.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7818/unodeloswcev9.jpg
This is one of the 2 toilets on board (for 52 men). This one is the rear torpedo room (the other is in the forward torpedo room). As is shown in the film Das Boot, one of the toilets would be used to store food so that leaves one toilet for the whole crew.....I guess buckets were used so can you imagine the smell...
Este es uno de los dos W.C. a bordo (para 52 hombres) Uno está cerca de la sala de torpedos de proa, otro está cerca de la sala de torpedos de popa. Como se muestra en la película “ Das Boot”, uno de ellos era usado para despensa, con lo cual toda la tripulación tenía disponible uno solamente. Si te imaginas el uso de cubos, imaginaros el “perfume”.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5553/cmaradetorpedosdepopank7.jpg
Rear torpedo room with 2 tubes
La sala de torpedos de popa con 2 tubos

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1756/seacabalavisitasubimosporlaescotillapk0.jpg
The end of the visit via the rear torpedo loading access hatch
El fin de la visita a través de la escotilla de carga de los torpedos de popa.

Algunas de las muchas páginas presentes en la red acerca del U-534:
A few of pages talking about U-534 present in Internet:
http://www.u534.coolfreepages.com/Basis_Frame.htm (http://www.u534.coolfreepages.com/Basis_Frame.htm)
http://www.bignotion.co.uk/~kemble/uboat534.html (http://www.bignotion.co.uk/~kemble/uboat534.html)
http://www.bignotion.co.uk/~kemble/uboat534-2.html (http://www.bignotion.co.uk/~kemble/uboat534-2.html)
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16616610&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=battle-to-save-last-u-boat-name_page.html (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16616610&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=battle-to-save-last-u-boat-name_page.html)
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16628765&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=wealthy-saviour-wanted-to-bail-out-stricken-warships-name_page.html (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/tm_objectid=16628765&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=wealthy-saviour-wanted-to-bail-out-stricken-warships-name_page.html)
http://www.detektorweb.cz/index.4me?s=show&i=1914&mm=1&vd=1&PHPSSIDW=65e979b124905023edff90a3effc1bcf (http://www.detektorweb.cz/index.4me?s=show&i=1914&mm=1&vd=1&PHPSSIDW=65e979b124905023edff90a3effc1bcf)
http://www.u-historia.com (http://www.u-historia.com/)à Historia à Historial Uboots à U534

[bradclark1]

Thats pretty sad. What a waste.

[August]

Thats pretty sad. What a waste.

50 years underwater have certainly taken their toll.

[Happy Times]

Thats pretty sad. What a waste.

50 years underwater have certainly taken their toll.

With money a lot could be restored and fixed.:hmm:

[Jimbuna]

Signed on the previous post :up:

[STEED]

Thats pretty sad. What a waste.

50 years underwater have certainly taken their toll.

With money a lot could be restored and fixed.:hmm:

Shocking mess that will take years to clean up and a heck of a lot of money.

[melnibonian]

With money a lot could be restored and fixed.:hmm: With a lot of money though :shifty:

[Etienne]

With the sub in that state, I doubt any non-profit is going to want to restore it. It's pretty far gone.

And unless it's restored, it's not going to be a huge public draw.

[Stealth Hunter]

They're not choping this up in a second... or I'm going to kill them.:stare:

I sh*t you not. So help me god I will KILL them if they destroy it, then jump the country.:D

[Jimbuna]

They're not choping this up in a second..

I fear that is how it will end up :nope: