Enigma machine on eBay!

[maillemaker]

I'm sure you guys have probably already seen this, but I found it on Digg and thought it was cool. If you have a spare $100K, this authentic Enigma machine can be yours!

I think it would be cool to make a replica.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Legendary-German-WWII-cipher-machine-ENIGMA-1938-circa_W0QQitemZ270142870851QQihZ017QQcategoryZ208Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

nice found maty :rock:

gonna see if i can get some money (wich is probaly not)

blast... its paypal... well i cant buy this baby...
better luck for the others then


Mohr

[jmr]

Wow how did this not end up in a museum?

[Canovaro]

Wow how did this not end up in a museum?

I agree, this belongs in a museum

[_Seth_]

I agree, this belongs in a museum:yep::yep:

[Rhodes]

From time to time, a enigma machines always pop's up on ebay.com. But I think the museum also buy on ebay, so possibly this one will be bought by one. At least they can afford the price.

[flakmonkey]

pricey!
I saw some enigma rotors at a car-boot sale about 4-5 years ago, no machine to go with them though :cry:

[STEED]

There are many fakes out there, buyer beware. ;)

[_Seth_]

There are many fakes out there, buyer beware. ;) True, STEED mate!:yep::up: If i was to blow off 100K on a Enigma (Well, if i had that money, i wouldnt consider an enigma machine my first buying priority..;)), i would demand some REALLY hard evidence for it's genuinity..

[Sailor Steve]

Wow how did this not end up in a museum?

I agree, this belongs in a museum
No, Professor Jones, it belongs in the collection of the man strong enough to take it! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Only $100,000, eh. Let me check my pockets. No, not here. Not there either. Hmmm, I guess I'll have to wait for my monthly paycheck. I hope it's still there next week.:roll:

[Hartmann]

It could be a fake or replica :hmm:

[papa_smurf]

Might be a fake, but it would be hard to prove.

Despite that - I WANT ONE!

[maillemaker]

I wonder if there are plans somewhere?

[Jimbuna]

Wow how did this not end up in a museum?

The owner may have got it by questionable means many years back and was waiting for the right time to sell it ? :hmm:

[Schöneboom]

Turns out there are quite a few Enigmas out there -- & replicas -- and people to buy them. $100K sounds like a rip-off unless you absolutely "need" all-original rotors:

http://w1tp.com/4sale/

And yes, you can even build your own:

http://www.enigma-replica.com/

[KevinB]

As far as I know there are only two genuine ones left in the world. One is in Bletchley Park and the other is owned by Mick Jagger!

[Puster Bill]

As far as I know there are only two genuine ones left in the world. One is in Bletchley Park and the other is owned by Mick Jagger!

ERrrm, no. There are thousands (well, at least hundreds) out there still in existence.

This guy has a few of them, and schleps them to hamfests:

http://w1tp.com/enigma/mcpue.htm

At the last one I saw him at (back in September), he had a complete Wehrmacht Enigma for sale, with all of the rotors, for $20,000.

Four rotor Naval Enigmas are extremely rare, though.

[maillemaker]

Cool link, boom!

[Mowinz]

As far as I know there are only two genuine ones left in the world. One is in Bletchley Park and the other is owned by Mick Jagger!

LOL :up: Mick Jagger? Mick plays SH3 too? Cool beans. Thanks for the music and the memories Mick!

Cheers

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

As far as I know there are only two genuine ones left in the world. One is in Bletchley Park and the other is owned by Mick Jagger!

ERrrm, no. There are thousands (well, at least hundreds) out there still in existence.

This guy has a few of them, and schleps them to hamfests:

http://w1tp.com/enigma/mcpue.htm

At the last one I saw him at (back in September), he had a complete Wehrmacht Enigma for sale, with all of the rotors, for $20,000.

Four rotor Naval Enigmas are extremely rare, though.

:hmm: where do's this person live ?
i would love to get an Enigma :rock:


Mohr

[KevinB]

As far as I know there are only two genuine ones left in the world. One is in Bletchley Park and the other is owned by Mick Jagger!

LOL :up: Mick Jagger? Mick plays SH3 too? Cool beans. Thanks for the music and the memories Mick!

Cheers

Yep he sure does but he hasn't downloaded GWX yet.:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

I think he's still playing LSD :lol:

[u-168]

I am gonna see if anybody want's to buy a left arm and a right leg and maybe while i am at it i may as well sell part of my brain.:D :D :D :D :D

[Puster Bill]

As far as I know there are only two genuine ones left in the world. One is in Bletchley Park and the other is owned by Mick Jagger!
ERrrm, no. There are thousands (well, at least hundreds) out there still in existence.

This guy has a few of them, and schleps them to hamfests:

http://w1tp.com/enigma/mcpue.htm

At the last one I saw him at (back in September), he had a complete Wehrmacht Enigma for sale, with all of the rotors, for $20,000.

Four rotor Naval Enigmas are extremely rare, though.
:hmm: where do's this person live ?
i would love to get an Enigma :rock:


Mohr

You should be able to contact him at his website. Besides which, he is a ham radio operator, so you could look his callsign (W1TP) up on qrz.com

[NealT]

There are many fakes out there, buyer beware. ;) True, STEED mate!:yep::up: If i was to blow off 100K on a Enigma (Well, if i had that money, i wouldnt consider an enigma machine my first buying priority..;)), i would demand some REALLY hard evidence for it's genuinity..

If I were going to be paying 100k for that, then I would not do so via mail or ebay...I would fork over the extra money and go there in person with an expert to make darn sure I got what I was paying for...

NealT

[Mowinz]

I am the owner of an enigma machine too. In fact, it's part of my collection of exotic artifacts. Have no idea how it works...bought it for $20 when I purchased SH3. What a bargain....

:up:

Cheers

[Jimbuna]

I am the owner of an enigma machine too. In fact, it's part of my collection of exotic artifacts. Have no idea how it works...bought it for $20 when I purchased SH3. What a bargain....

:up:

Cheers

Are we talking about the real 'I am' here ? :hmm:

[The Milkman]

i'll buy at at a high price!

[Boris]

Wow how did this not end up in a museum?
I agree, this belongs in a museum

Damn straight!

http://www.areadvd.de/images/images_01/illustrations/indianajones_screen.jpg

[Stealth Hunter]

Wow how did this not end up in a museum?

I agree, this belongs in a museum

I'm getting the law on this. There is in fact a post WWII law about these items... but guns and the like are OK.

EDIT: You know, this thing isn't worth 100K, right? I had one that was in exceptional condition and it was only worth about 10K.:nope: Then that *******ing idiot burned it with a bible saying that IT'S OF THE DEMONS!:rotfl:

[urfisch]

this machine was a few weeks ago for sale. he bought it for about 17.000 euros - 23.000 dollars.

[Stealth Hunter]

Really? Perhaps you should blab that down there...:D:smug::yep::rotfl:

[maillemaker]

EDIT: You know, this thing isn't worth 100K, right? I had one that was in exceptional condition and it was only worth about 10K.


Note that $100K is his "buy it now price", not necessarily the best offer he is willing to accept. That said, a thing is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it.

Then that *******ing idiot burned it with a bible saying that IT'S OF THE DEMONS!

Who are you talking about?

[magicsub]

as indiana jones would say.......

its an important artifact, it belongs in a museum! - last crusade

same as lara croft (tomb raider) says:

its an important artifact! it belongs in my house!!!

[Uncle Goose]

About 10years ago I bought one for like 300$, it was not the naval version but the regular army version. The thing still worked and was complete with all the rotors and it was a nice display item. A few years later I resold the thing to a vivid werhmacht collector for double the price. Enigma's aren't actually that rare, many thousands are made (just imagine that every unit with a command post had to have one). They pop up from time to time but I don't find them worth the over 10k price. For the 23k price this guy payed I rather would buy a knight's cross.

[JAKE]

What is the going rate for a genuine knight's cross dose anyone know?

[Uncle Goose]

I saw one go about a year ago for about 13k on a militaria fair (it was a plain one, not with oak leaves and stuff). But I think prices can vary depending on condition, wheter it has the original papers, has the original presentation box with it and so on. But it's a risky thing since so many good forgeries are made these days, you must be 100% certain that it is original if you want to buy one. I wouldn't buy one, too expensive and medals aren't my stuff, I collect gasmasks which are pretty cheap compared to most other WW2 related items.

[Tessa]

What is the going rate for a genuine knight's cross dose anyone know?

Depending on the condition and type they'll usually run around 9k - 15k. If you have the original paperwork and case for it the price will almost double depending on the rank or recepient. Recently saw a gorgeous set of oak leaves with swords, premium quality and those alone were 22k.

Here's a great page that goes into a lot of detail about the badges and different awards:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/association/members/reference_articles/U_boat/U-boat1.php

[JAKE]

Thanks for the info guys i never realized they were that sort of price, well suppose i won't be buying one for a while. Also i heard that in germany they replaced the orignal ones with ones without a swastika dose that mean theres almost double the number that were orignaly handed out?

[Uncle Goose]

Thanks for the info guys i never realized they were that sort of price, well suppose i won't be buying one for a while. Also i heard that in germany they replaced the orignal ones with ones without a swastika dose that mean theres almost double the number that were orignaly handed out?


This option was given to people who wanted to wear the decoration after the war, however, I don't think many requested a copy of this medal to wear it. I've seen photograhs of a postwar production of the U-boat Badge but never seen one IRL. I think they are quite rare.