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SUBMAN1
07-05-07, 05:55 PM
Crazy.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,23483,20362899-27977,00.html?from=mostpop

It is not like they don't get earthquakes in Fiji or anything:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2006/usjqaf/

-S

waste gate
07-05-07, 06:01 PM
From my understanding Tsunami are mainly surface (land) effects of the earthquake in coastal areas. If the sub or house is far enough off the coast no worry.

August
07-05-07, 06:45 PM
From my understanding Tsunami are mainly surface (land) effects of the earthquake in coastal areas. If the sub or house is far enough off the coast no worry.

Tsunamis aren't the only effect of an earthquake waste gate. All it would take is one small crack in that thing and the occupants are screwed.

waste gate
07-05-07, 06:48 PM
From my understanding Tsunami are mainly surface (land) effects of the earthquake in coastal areas. If the sub or house is far enough off the coast no worry.

Tsunamis aren't the only effect of an earthquake waste gate. All it would take is one small crack in that thing and the occupants are screwed.

I stand corrected. Thanks August.

Letum
07-05-07, 06:48 PM
From my understanding Tsunami are mainly surface (land) effects of the earthquake in coastal areas. If the sub or house is far enough off the coast no worry.
Tsunamis aren't the only effect of an earthquake waste gate. All it would take is one small crack in that thing and the occupants are screwed.

One would hope it is very over-engineered.
If there was a accident it would put a end to investment in such projects.

August
07-05-07, 06:59 PM
If there was a accident it would put a end to investment in such projects.

Hmm I dunno about that. With a world population over 6 billion and climbing, i'd imagine any inhibitions caused by such an accident might only be temporary.

Another thought i have from looking at that site is that those brightly lit waters are not going to be very realistic. It seems way too shallow. It gets dark as heck after 100 feet and anything less is going to pose some serious hazards to navigation.

Letum
07-05-07, 07:03 PM
If there was a accident it would put a end to investment in such projects.
Hmm I dunno about that. With a world population over 6 billion and climbing, i'd imagine any inhibitions caused by such an accident might only be temporary.


Well, I was thinking more of a end of funding to novelty underwater hotels.

August
07-05-07, 07:08 PM
If there was a accident it would put a end to investment in such projects.
Hmm I dunno about that. With a world population over 6 billion and climbing, i'd imagine any inhibitions caused by such an accident might only be temporary.

Well, I was thinking more of a end of funding to novelty underwater hotels.

Yeah you're probably right. I was thinking how todays novelties have a habit of becoming tomorrows necessities, like the automobile and the telephone.

Letum
07-05-07, 07:20 PM
If there was a accident it would put a end to investment in such projects.
Hmm I dunno about that. With a world population over 6 billion and climbing, i'd imagine any inhibitions caused by such an accident might only be temporary.

Well, I was thinking more of a end of funding to novelty underwater hotels.
Yeah you're probably right. I was thinking how todays novelties have a habit of becoming tomorrows necessities, like the automobile and the telephone.

I wonder what will happen when humans become too common. :hmm:

I suspect we will use technology to adapt as we always have. Synthetic farms....underwater hotels...I doubt there is a maximum human population.

August
07-05-07, 07:25 PM
I wonder what will happen when humans become too common. :hmm:

I suspect we will use technology to adapt as we always have. Synthetic farms....underwater hotels...I doubt there is a maximum human population.

It's definitely a race between technology and natures various ways of eliminating species overpopulation. I think it'd be a lot easier if we just learned how to limit ourselves to a number we could all live with...

Letum
07-05-07, 07:29 PM
I wonder what will happen when humans become too common. :hmm:

I suspect we will use technology to adapt as we always have. Synthetic farms....underwater hotels...I doubt there is a maximum human population.
It's definitely a race between technology and natures various ways of eliminating species overpopulation. I think it'd be a lot easier if we just learned how to limit ourselves to a number we could all live with...

Thats the tragedy of the commons for ya. :(

JSLTIGER
07-05-07, 08:10 PM
I think its really cool...it doesn't look like its too far submerged.

Letum
07-05-07, 08:13 PM
I think its really cool...it doesn't look like its too far submerged.
^this

I would love a night in there!

swifty
07-05-07, 10:00 PM
Underwater habitats are basically submarines with legs that sit on the bottom. As long as it's supports are not anchored to the sea floor risk to seismic activity is minimal. It appears the resort is kept at 1 atm so if offers littler advantage to divers.

NOAA operates one in the FLorida Keys, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_%28laboratory%29. It allows divers to stay at depth for as long as a week. I had the oputany to dive it a few years ago amazing experiance living at 22 psi. Food no longer tastes the same a Hershey Bar tasted like bark.

Spoon 11th
07-05-07, 11:15 PM
It's only 40 feet underwater.

http://www.poseidonresorts.com/poseidon_main.html

August
07-05-07, 11:27 PM
Underwater habitats are basically submarines with legs that sit on the bottom. As long as it's supports are not anchored to the sea floor risk to seismic activity is minimal. It appears the resort is kept at 1 atm so if offers littler advantage to divers.

NOAA operates one in the FLorida Keys, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_%28laboratory%29. It allows divers to stay at depth for as long as a week. I had the oputany to dive it a few years ago amazing experiance living at 22 psi. Food no longer tastes the same a Hershey Bar tasted like bark.

Interesting, they don't keep it at surface pressure like a sub? And what's with the change in food taste? Is that the result of special gas mixture or just increased pressure?

Letum
07-05-07, 11:40 PM
Underwater habitats are basically submarines with legs that sit on the bottom. As long as it's supports are not anchored to the sea floor risk to seismic activity is minimal. It appears the resort is kept at 1 atm so if offers littler advantage to divers.

NOAA operates one in the FLorida Keys, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_%28laboratory%29. It allows divers to stay at depth for as long as a week. I had the oputany to dive it a few years ago amazing experiance living at 22 psi. Food no longer tastes the same a Hershey Bar tasted like bark.
Interesting, they don't keep it at surface pressure like a sub? And what's with the change in food taste? Is that the result of special gas mixture or just increased pressure?

I would guess they keep the pressure high so that you can go in and out with out getting the bends.

August
07-05-07, 11:52 PM
I would guess they keep the pressure high so that you can go in and out with out getting the bends.

That must be it since they mention increased diving times. Still i'm wondering about the altered taste of their food and whether they lower the nitrogen content as well.

Letum
07-05-07, 11:59 PM
I would guess they keep the pressure high so that you can go in and out with out getting the bends.
That must be it since they mention increased diving times. Still i'm wondering about the altered taste of their food and whether they lower the nitrogen content as well.

Apperantly unusual O2 levels can cause changes in taste....I don't know if thats what is happening here, but its a good suspect.

swifty
07-06-07, 09:03 AM
The habitat it self has regular air nitrogen, oxygen % are the same as top side.. Its air and power are supplied by a surface buoy (http://www.uncw.edu/aquarius/archive/LSB.htm). It is kept at depth so you can dive all day without getting bent.


The special diving capability of Aquarius, called saturation diving (http://www.uncw.edu/aquarius/about/saturation.htm), allows scientists to work out on the reef up to nine hours a day without fear of getting the bends, compared to one hour if they had to work from the surface. See the pressure lesson (http://www.uncw.edu/aquarius/about/education/pressure.html) for more details.
Increased research time on–bottom is the key element that enhances scientific productivity beneath the sea. The support personnel of the National Undersea Research Center at UNCW enhance program productivity through diver training, and scientific and operational expertise. Safety is a hallmark of the program.
On the last day of the mission the crew is locked inside and Aquarius turns into a hyperbaric chamber and is slowly brought to 1 atm then the crew swims up to the surface boat.

I'm not sure why food tasted bland under pressure. Your voice also changes due to increased pressure on vocal chords.

FIREWALL
07-06-07, 09:20 AM
Sticker Shock!!!:huh: :eek:

SUBMAN1
07-06-07, 10:50 AM
I wonder what will happen when humans become too common. :hmm:

I suspect we will use technology to adapt as we always have. Synthetic farms....underwater hotels...I doubt there is a maximum human population.
It's definitely a race between technology and natures various ways of eliminating species overpopulation. I think it'd be a lot easier if we just learned how to limit ourselves to a number we could all live with...

Best idea ever, but least likely to ever take affect. Too many stupid people in this world that can't understand why 6 or 7 billion people is a bad idea. You can't go a day without seeing why one species or another is dying out. The world cannot support this many people already.

-S

jumpy
07-09-07, 04:39 AM
hehe, all the owners of that place need now is an oil tanker specially modified to swallow nuclear submarines, and a lift that the floor opens and drops into a shark tank :lol:

Antidike
07-10-07, 05:23 AM
If there was a accident it would put a end to investment in such projects.
Hmm I dunno about that. With a world population over 6 billion and climbing, i'd imagine any inhibitions caused by such an accident might only be temporary.

Well, I was thinking more of a end of funding to novelty underwater hotels.
Yeah you're probably right. I was thinking how todays novelties have a habit of becoming tomorrows necessities, like the automobile and the telephone.
I wonder what will happen when humans become too common. :hmm:

I suspect we will use technology to adapt as we always have. Synthetic farms....underwater hotels...I doubt there is a maximum human population.

Forget technology we need war, What is it good for? Reducing the amount of people in the world.Huraa!!:know: A drink to celebrate lads?:()1:

August
07-10-07, 09:41 AM
Forget technology we need war, What is it good for? Reducing the amount of people in the world.Huraa!!:know: A drink to celebrate lads?:()1:

The problem with war as a means of population control is that it culls the best human specimens, leaving the weak, sick, criminal and stupid to survive and pass on their genes.

This is exactly opposite to what happens in nature where the weak and sick are culled from the herd due to predation.