Which candidate do you want for prez

[Seth8530]

Helo, Just wondering which canidate do yall want to be prez of the U.S. It seems to me they all suck.. (starts chanting trieng to bring back Ronald Regan). My only true opinion as of now is not Hillary...

Keep civil please.

[Tchocky]

You're not the only one chanting for Reagan, every GOP candidate is trying to impersonate him.

Personally, I'd like to see Mike Gravel get it

[waste gate]

Its really early since they all seem to be playing to their base, to get the nomination, but ultimately I will vote for the candidate who will do the least harm to the country. Is that vague enough?

[waste gate]

Helo, Just wondering which canidate do yall want to be prez of the U.S. It seems to me they all suck.. (starts chanting trieng to bring back Ronald Regan). My only true opinion as of now is not Hillary...

Keep civil please.

As of now you have to wonder who you would be voting for Hil or Bill. I suspect that isn't an issue for some.

[waste gate]

You're not the only one chanting for Reagan, every GOP candidate is trying to impersonate him.

Personally, I'd like to see Mike Gravel get it

Too left for me. But I bet he would do very well in Europe. His approach is similar to Mrs. Clinton but one has to look very hard to find hers.

http://www.gravel2008.us/issues

[SUBMAN1]

Thompson is the only Canidate I would vote for so far. I don't care much for the other choices as offered.

I think the lame showing for the Repubs is a handicap at this point. However, things are not even in the normal time frames yet. Demos got the ball rolling this time around. Usually the beginning of next year is when you start to see the action heat up.

-S

[Tchocky]

Thompson hasn't really impressed me, now that you mention him. I think he's getting a lot of anticipatory coverage because he's been relatively silent so far.
Once (if?) his campaign gets going, then we'll see.

Oh joy :roll: (http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25833/pub_detail.asp)

Oh yeah, as regards Gravel. He won't get it, unfortunately. I'd most likely vote for Obama. Hillary has the machine, as it were, but I don't think she'd be a great President. McCain hasn't a clue anymore, and Romney is fresh out of positions to take.

[SUBMAN1]

Thompson hasn't really impressed me, now that you mention him. I think he's getting a lot of anticipatory coverage because he's been relatively silent so far.
Once (if?) his campaign gets going, then we'll see.

Thompson has only been in the ring for less than a month, so he is the newbie! Just wait and see. You can't attack him on anything, so I bet he is going to be a force to be reckoned with. I think he is currently the right man for the job.

None of this really matters till next year when everyone has picked who is the final runners though - the race is still at the beginning. Thompson however is the man! He can't be linked to any of the hot topics because he has been out of Congress since they all happened, so how do you attack him? Everything he is remebered for would be Bill Clinton Era. I bet Hillary is shaking in her boots at this guy. He is a Rebup that can take her on and win.

-S

[waste gate]

Thompson hasn't really impressed me, now that you mention him. I think he's getting a lot of anticipatory coverage because he's been relatively silent so far.
Once (if?) his campaign gets going, then we'll see.

Oh joy :roll: (http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25833/pub_detail.asp)

Oh yeah, as regards Gravel. He won't get it, unfortunately. I'd most likely vote for Obama. Hillary has the machine, as it were, but I don't think she'd be a great President. McCain hasn't a clue anymore, and Romney is fresh out of positions to take.

I guess all of the United States is fortunate that you aren't a citizen and cannot vote.:D

BTW my posts equal the year (2007). Thanks for the memories.

[fatty]

Thompson hasn't really impressed me, now that you mention him. I think he's getting a lot of anticipatory coverage because he's been relatively silent so far.
Once (if?) his campaign gets going, then we'll see.

Oh joy :roll: (http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25833/pub_detail.asp)

Oh yeah, as regards Gravel. He won't get it, unfortunately. I'd most likely vote for Obama. Hillary has the machine, as it were, but I don't think she'd be a great President. McCain hasn't a clue anymore, and Romney is fresh out of positions to take.

I guess all of the United States is fortunate that you aren't a citizen and cannot vote.:D

BTW my posts equal the year (2007). Thanks for the memories.

Now you musn't post again until 2008 ;)

[Tchocky]

Not being able to attack doesn't make him the right man for the job :-?
I mean, no major attacks could win him the Presidency, but that doesn't say anything about the kind of President he'd be. I half agree, it's too early to see if he's in any way suitable....(although personally, that AEI spot on climate change turned me right off - he wants to be President?)

waste, do ya really want me to turn that question round on you? :p

[blue3golf]

I'll be on the Republican side of the house.

[SUBMAN1]

Not being able to attack doesn't make him the right man for the job :-?
I mean, no major attacks could win him the Presidency, but that doesn't say anything about the kind of President he'd be. I half agree, it's too early to see if he's in any way suitable..

waste, do ya really want me to turn that question round on you? :p

You can't! So drop it! :p

The part about attacking him has nothing to do with how he would handle the pres position. The point I was making - every candidate in this race is holding baggage. Thompson is the only guy who is not holding a thing. That is a strong position to enter with. Trust me when I say, you haven't seen the last of him yet.

-S

[waste gate]

Not being able to attack doesn't make him the right man for the job :-?
I mean, no major attacks could win him the Presidency, but that doesn't say anything about the kind of President he'd be. I half agree, it's too early to see if he's in any way suitable..

waste, do ya really want me to turn that question round on you? :p

T. you know its OK to turn anything you wish.

[The Avon Lady]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

[waste gate]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

[ASWnut101]

Thompson is the only Canidate I would vote for so far. I don't care much for the other choices as offered.

I think the lame showing for the Repubs is a handicap at this point. However, things are not even in the normal time frames yet. Demos got the ball rolling this time around. Usually the beginning of next year is when you start to see the action heat up.

-S

Same here.

[cobalt]

Barack

[The Avon Lady]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:

[waste gate]

Barack

Because of this;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU

or this;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J_1utd4jrAc

[waste gate]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

[The Avon Lady]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:
Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

[waste gate]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:
Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.

[The Avon Lady]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:
Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.
Agree but then point it out. There's tons of misinformed folks out there in webbyland. Become an influence, an @mbassador if you wish. ;)

[waste gate]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:
Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.
Agree but then point it out. There's tons of misinformed folks out there in webbyland. Become an influence, an @mbassador if you wish. ;)

Have I not?

[The Avon Lady]

For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?
Correct. :yep:
Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.
Agree but then point it out. There's tons of misinformed folks out there in webbyland. Become an influence, an @mbassador if you wish. ;)

Have I not?
Well, I was a bit surprised by your use of describing opinions as "legitimate" or not. The implication is that had I been some sort of an "outsider", my opinions could potentially be considered disqualified, so to speak.

[Yahoshua]

"Which canidate do you want for prez "


I'm pretty convinced that unless Fred Thompson and Tom Tancredo pair up and run, we haven't got a chance against Hillary winning the nomination and choosing Obama as her running mate.

In which case I will be packing my bags for the gun bans that I'm positively sure would be following their occupation of the Whitehouse. (<------NOT kidding)

But as Murphys' Law states that The most substantial problems will occur at the mos inoppurtune time, I'm expecting that somebody will dog up the Rose Law firm issue ot the other skeletons in Hillarys' closet and that'll send the Dems out scrambling to find a better candidate for the nomination and it'll end up bein ugly all around.

The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.

I'm tired of politicians inventing a solution and then looking for a problem instead of setting their political squabbles aside long enough to do some good for this nation and solving the real problems that need attention.

[waste gate]

"Which canidate do you want for prez "


I'm pretty convinced that unless Fred Thompson and Tom Tancredo pair up and run, we haven't got a chance against Hillary winning the nomination and choosing Obama as her running mate.

In which case I will be packing my bags for the gun bans that I'm positively sure would be following their occupation of the Whitehouse. (<------NOT kidding)

But as Murphys' Law states that The most substantial problems will occur at the mos inoppurtune time, I'm expecting that somebody will dog up the Rose Law firm issue ot the other skeletons in Hillarys' closet and that'll send the Dems out scrambling to find a better candidate for the nomination and it'll end up bein ugly all around.

The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.

I'm tired of politicians inventing a solution and then looking for a problem instead of setting their political squabbles aside long enough to do some good for this nation and solving the real problems that need attention.

Repeal the seventeenth amendment and hold the house to its constituents. If the defeat of the immigration bill taught us nothing it should have taught us that the will of the people can prevail!! More power to us!!!!!

[The Avon Lady]

The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.
These are times when the US cannot afford such an administration. :nope:

[P_Funk]

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman. And I'd rather see a progressive Republican win than Hillary.

Barack FTW.

[The Avon Lady]

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman.
Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.

[P_Funk]

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman. Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.
Yes god forbid that anyone feel good about the man they would vote for. I forgot that the days of statesmen and true human personality in politicians is over. They shot Kennedy for a reason. Bobby too. No, Nixon is where its at.

[The Avon Lady]

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman. Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.
Yes god forbid that anyone feel good about the man they would vote for.
If falling for a continous stream of empty platitudes is what turns you on, then who's stopping you?

[P_Funk]

If falling for a continous stream of empty platitudes is what turns you on, then who's stopping you? http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5656/jackev7.gif

[Fish]

Oprah! :up:

[Heibges]

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman.
Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.

I would like it put on record that Howard Dean is not from Vermont, but from East Hampton, New York. Which officially makes him a Flatlander.

I'm voting for John McCain.

[USS_shipmaster]

Unfortunately, may be because of my background I do not trust politicians at all.
Novadays we ( i mean USA) are facing several high level problems including:
- anti terrorism war and islam issue.( See "What West needs to know "(about Islam ). we loosing propaganda war...
- social security problem
- education issue
- IMF debts
- immigration issue
- dollar / euro
- international relationship issue
- information (propaganda) war issue
Now I see only results of policy of our Vice-President and his associates.
Actualy It was a results of bad analytical skills ot his(or GW) team.
But I think that democrats will make much more mistakes than republicans.
All politicians are populists. Nothing new. The Question is who can make more realistic politics inside and outside the country?
We have a choice between Bad and very Bad. I am afraid of Obama. He doesnt have any real experience in goverment. And he is a populist.
Lady Clinton is just a little bit better. And again a populist. Republicans??? Give me a name. I personally prefer C.Rise. But she is too smart to go into this sh*t.

[The Avon Lady]

Unfortunately, may be because of my background I do not trust politicians at all.
Novadays we ( i mean USA) are facing several high level problems including:
- anti terrorism war and islam issue.( See "What West needs to know "(about Islam ). we loosing propaganda war...
- social security problem
- education issue
- IMF debts
- immigration issue
- dollar / euro
- international relationship issue
- information (propaganda) war issue
Now I see only results of policy of our Vice-President and his associates.
Actualy It was a results of bad analytical skills ot his(or GW) team.
But I think that democrats will make much more mistakes than republicans.
All politicians are populists. Nothing new. The Question is who can make more realistic politics inside and outside the country?
We have a choice between Bad and very Bad. I am afraid of Obama. He doesnt have any real experience in goverment. And he is a populist.
Lady Clinton is just a little bit better. And again a populist. Republicans??? Give me a name. I personally prefer C.Rise. But she is too smart to go into this sh*t.
I was with you all the way until you mentioned Condoleezza Rice. :nope: :nope:

[USS_shipmaster]

We have to stop pretending !!!!!
We need real policy with radical islam regimes!
We need a real immigration policy ( we have to wellcome here educated people who will make our country stronger, lets make educational barrier, stop immigration from ANY islamic country )
We need real equality between people, no preferences, no benefits based on race!
Benefits only for Veterans.

[Heibges]

Unfortunately, may be because of my background I do not trust politicians at all.
Novadays we ( i mean USA) are facing several high level problems including:
- anti terrorism war and islam issue.( See "What West needs to know "(about Islam ). we loosing propaganda war...
- social security problem
- education issue
- IMF debts
- immigration issue
- dollar / euro
- international relationship issue
- information (propaganda) war issue
Now I see only results of policy of our Vice-President and his associates.
Actualy It was a results of bad analytical skills ot his(or GW) team.
But I think that democrats will make much more mistakes than republicans.
All politicians are populists. Nothing new. The Question is who can make more realistic politics inside and outside the country?
We have a choice between Bad and very Bad. I am afraid of Obama. He doesnt have any real experience in goverment. And he is a populist.
Lady Clinton is just a little bit better. And again a populist. Republicans??? Give me a name. I personally prefer C.Rise. But she is too smart to go into this sh*t.
I was with you all the way until you mentioned Condoleezza Rice. :nope: :nope:

I could never vote for anyone who has a supertanker named after them.

[Tchocky]

So how about a Vice President Valdez?

[USS_shipmaster]

About Rise...
Pay Attention ... I quote myself " She is too smart to go into this sh*t) Therefore
She is not going. And Its my personal choice, and as I noticed most of voters pay attention on how their candidate looks or how charming he or she is, but not on how smart he/she is.
Real danger is IDIOCRACY IS COMING

[The Avon Lady]

We have to stop pretending !!!!!
We need real policy with radical islam regimes!
Then you should know better than to even mention Rice's name.

Read What the presidential candidates should do (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017099.php).
Real danger is IDIOCRACY IS COMING
It's here already :yep:

[USS_shipmaster]

And now is war between civilizations. Western one is not perfect, but to go with Islam into Dark Ages? Just because of political correctness??? Just because they are still in XIV century of their development? But now is a diferent time for civilization conflicts. Earlier we had just swords. Today we have rockets and nukes
THANKS a lot, I prefer to live on this planet. If they want to exterminate west society I prefer in this case to exterminate them.
And I am talking about ISLAM FUNDOMENTAL IDIOLOGY!!!
I do not say that all muslims are bad, i am talking about the System.
PS There is only one problem...Do not become a nazi freaks.

[USS_shipmaster]

ISLAM Leaders : WE do not Afraid of Anyone except God.
My answer: YOU are afraid of everyone expept God

[Tchocky]

Is English your first language?

[USS_shipmaster]

NO, its third. I am originally from eastern europe. No linguistic talants, sorry
New York is wonderful place, where guy who speaks English with no accent sounds like a foreigner. ;-)

[Iceman]

Heard this guy just entered the race...looks like a good bloke...:)

http://www.cyberallies.com/miscpics/neal.jpg

[USS_shipmaster]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Neal RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cobalt]

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman. And I'd rather see a progressive Republican win than Hillary.

Barack FTW.


haha....for the the win


oh and waste gate, im surprised you didnt post a skrewdriver youtube video along with that too.

[Yahoshua]

The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.
These are times when the US cannot afford such an administration. :nope:

As a pessimist I'm always evaluating my situation and potential events with the most grim results, so I'm expecting a Hillary/Obama win with a lame-duck administration that can't get anything done. Good for everbody around.

But I agree and hope that we can get a good administration that will actually solve problems isntead of make more of them.

[Seth8530]

I reckon that as far as any current canidate we are in a pretty deep and smelly crap-hole.... perhaps when things get extremly desperate and we are on the edge of the cliff someone will step up. hopefully someone will step up before then.:shifty:

[Ishmael]

The most qualified IMHO would be Bill Richardson, but he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected.

Fred Thompson was a lobbyist for years and, when he ran for the Senate, rented an old truck and bought some work clothes to act like a good ole boy.

Rudy Giuliani's biggest campaign contributors are Vulture Fund investors who buy up Third World debt for pennies on the dollar and then sue for the full amount after those debts were supposedly forgiven.

Mitt Romney's biggest contributors are the guys who run torture camps for teenagers as part of the new "Tough Love" bootcamps.

If Tom Tancredo wants to close the borders, send him down there with a crapload of landmines and let him start planting them there.

Hillary is the biggest recipient of campaign money from big Pharma.

Obama has no experience.

Off the major democrats, I like John Edwards. Plus I admire Elizabeth for nailing Mann Coulter on Hardball.

Only Ron Paul on the Republican side is talking any sense.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Somebody finally mentions Ron Paul! :yep:

PD

[geetrue]

I have decided for Senator John McCain: http://www.johnmccain.com

I know it looks bleak with the campaign funds and slipping in the polls to number three spot, but in the
end he is the best choice for these turblent times.

I hope this thread makes it for 16 more months and one week, so we can see
who changes their mind. :yep:

Here's a good link for anyone that needs more information about the people running for president of the United States. http://www.yournextpresident.net/

[Heibges]

I changed my mind already.

I'm writing in Colin Powell for President and Wesley Clark for Vice President.

[nikimcbee]

Heard this guy just entered the race...looks like a good bloke...:)

http://www.cyberallies.com/miscpics/neal.jpg

Hey, If Neal gets elected, maybe he would let diabetics in the Navy...or atleast let me go on a patrol.